Expensive problem
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on July 9th, 2009
This was the name of the horse that reared as it left the stalls in the first at Epsom this evening. I was waiting for a lay to get matched and hanging in there I had turned the lay to an SP order. As the fast pictures boys saw it l0ng before I the price shot out and the SP returned was dreadful. What was a nice profit turned into, well, an expensive problem!
Ashes
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on July 8th, 2009
I’m looking forward to the Ashes and if the markets are anything like the last time the Ashes were held in the UK, we could be in for a treat. I remember visiting Betfair’s offices just after the last test finished. It had turnover of £32m or something similar. There was a lot excitement and activity last time around.
I must admit to not having done much Cricket trading. It still remains a relatively untouched area for me. I have carefully modelled horse racing, soccer and tennis but cricket is still on the edge of my agenda.
I know it’s something I would like to get into and I know some excellent cricket traders, but unfortunately there are only 24 hours in the day. There are some good blogs out there so if you are interested in getting involved have a nose around them. I’ll see if I can get a list up at some point. For this series I may have a dabble but until I know what I am doing it will remain just that.
The only hint I can offer at the moment is that it seems the weather can be an important contributor to odds movement as well as the underlying score.
Another meeting abandoned
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on July 7th, 2009
Last week we had a meeting abandoned because they couldn’t get enough water on course. This week we appear to have too much. Uttoxeter has been abandoned this evening in another embarrassment for the racing industry. I’d understand the odd one but these ‘freak events’ do seem to occur with amazing regularity!
It’s been a really disjointed start to the week, I hope it gets better from here.
http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/waterlogged-uttoxeter-abandons-evening-card/605914/
7/7
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on July 7th, 2009
Most people know the significance of this date, but for a small group of traders this date has even more significance.
On that very day I was scheduled to do a talk in central London on guess what, trading on betting exchanges. Obviously, in the ensuing chaos, we all arrived a little late. A few of us had directly got caught up in the bombings but nobody was seriously hurt, just a few bumps and some confusion. While it may seem a bit bizarre now, none of us knew what had happened. The rumours at the time were an electrical fault and explosion. So with most people settled in, we just carried on as normal. There was the odd comment on how many sirens were going off. Most people had turned off their mobile phones to listen to the talk.
One person hadn’t though, me. My phone kept ringing, so after trying to ignore it, I eventually answered it. “Are you OK?” came the voice of my wife down the phone. Suddenly we all realised what was going on. About half way through the conversation the phone cut out, it would be the last time for a while that any of us would speak to our relatives. With Internet sites completely stuffed up as well, we were a bit clueless as to what was really happening.
I rolled up my sleeves and immediately went to seek advice, only to realise that most of London was scattering away from the centre however and as fast as they could. This was a little tricky as there were no buses, trains or taxis; it was foot traffic only. On eventually finding a policeman, he advised us to stay put till things were a little clearer. He didn’t know if it was a ‘normal’ bomb or a chemical attack. So, in true British fashion, we stayed put and just carried on. A very, very surreal experience.
We ended slightly early and set off on our walk across town. It was a strange experience, the whole place was completely quiet. Not a soul to be seen, only traffic lights blinking on and off to a non exist world. To add to the atmosphere, it started to rain, not just a little but a lot! A small group of us found an abandoned coffee shop and took refuge in it. Just then the mobile phone network sprung back into life and all the phones started ringing. It was an emotional time listening to the messages as they poured in from all over the world checking to see if we were OK.
Eventually we split up and I found my way to Waterloo station where the first trains were just starting to run again, under heavy security. I jumped on the train for a long and lonely journey home. It was really strange watching the news that night. I’d been there, but the scale and impact of it just hadn’t sunk in till I watched the news.
Spare some thoughts today for those affected by any unnecessary hatred. Have pity for those for whom hates forms a daily part of their life; whatever form it takes, not just terrorists. I guess its just a utopian dream to think that maybe people can just get on with each other for once?
Anyhow, this morning, four years on, I will be taking some time out to contemplate those that were not so lucky four years ago. The timing of this post will appear on the Internet at the exact time the first bomb went off. Please take a moment to remember to mark the anniversary at some point today.
Great end to Wimbledon
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on July 6th, 2009
What a fantastic tournament that was. Opportunities seemed to pop out of the tennis court all over the place and we finished with an epic final. £53m was traded on the final, £49m on Federer!
There were several opportunities to lay Federer at short odds and as the match wore on your could easily see it heading for a fifth set. During that fifth set it was very even, but as we strayed into the final stages of that titanic battle you could see Roddick weakening a little bit and Federer retaining his composure. I felt so sorry for Roddick who had really put in so much into these two weeks. At the end of the day Federer broke Roddick just once during the match, but that was enough for the championship. Before the match I went back and listened to an interview that Roddick did a couple of years ago with Jonathan Ross. I remember them talking about grass, clay and Federer. It turned out to be a useful hint of what was to happen.
With Roddick weakening during the latter stages of the fifth set you could easily see the market discounting this into the price of Federer. I eventually jumped on board Federer at 1.43 and just minutes later it was all over. Probably one of the better trades I had made for the tournament and it just happened to be the last.
My confidence in tennis trading is now on a high after such a decent French Open and Wimbledon. I’m glad I’ve put so much effort into the markets in the last couple of years. If you haven’t traded Tennis before, then give it a try. It’s great fun!

Opinion
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on July 6th, 2009
Thank you for reading this blog. I trust you get something out of reading it and based on the tons of emails I receive, a lot of you do. That’s pleasing to know.
You should always welcome opinion and whether you agree with it or not, its important if it provokes thought or debate. Asking “why?” is a great human gift. However, if opinion isn’t voiced for constructive debate, it serves nobody. Let me tell you where my opinions are sourced.
I draw next to nothing from the commercial side of my activity in the market. I prefer to re-invest that money into future projects. For me, actually using exchanges has always been central to everything I do, in fact, its a passion. If it wasn’t a passion I wouldn’t sit here playing with odds models shoveling millions a week through the markets. In fact, if I had no other interests and didn’t earn a penny from it, or anything else, I would probably still be sat here probing the market. That’s how Bet Angel came to life. Back when it was created there was nothing with the features I needed, nobody was convinced they were needed, so I had to design the concepts myself. A lot of features you see in the market, even some of those introduced by Betfair first appeared on Bet Angel.
Having successfully navigated the markets since they were formed nearly ten years ago, I’m bound to voice what I think. My opinion comes from actually being here and doing it, and that is what drives my thought processes and comments, nothing else.
Balls up at Bellewstown
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on July 4th, 2009
Inbetween the two UK evenings races I tuned into the Irish racing. Saw a horse being led to the start. Suddenly the race is off, oh dear, it looks like they went without him. He was very heavily backed and there could be a lot of fall out from this one! I put a trade in but reversed it when I wasn’t sure what was going on. As I type, 40 minutes later, there still seems to be no decision as to whether the horse was a non runner, runner or whether the race should be void.
The racing industry does seem to throw up these odd situations with amazing regularity.
Look over your shoulder
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on July 3rd, 2009
When trading it’s easy to get carried away with a move in the market. The prices is rising and you instinctively want to follow it as it charges off in one direction or another. You sit there and ponder your move then make the decision to jump in. Just as you do it goes the other way and you sit there waiting for it to rebound into profit, it continues to fall and then you can’t stand it any more and cut out. No sooner do you cut out than the price moves the other way, you jump back in and then you find you exit too early as the price soars off in the direction you picked. At that point you look over your shoulder as you could swear that somebody was watching you and waiting for you to click that button!
Why does this happen?
The answer lies in a little bit of psychology, namely fear and greed. I’ve published this image before, a couple of years ago in the newsletter, but I think it illustrates very well why people get into the market at the wrong time, exit at the wrong time and then fail to take their full profits.

Initially as the price moves, you feel a need to jump on a price movement, fearing you may have missed out. It turns out you were too late and the move has already happened and as the price falls back below your entry point, you bail out. This time you get in again and as the price rises you get nervous so you close your position, to be safe. Of course it sails well past your exit point and typically, if you have been in and out already, your hand is forced again by your previous memory of your prior unsuccessful entry.
This graphic illustrates these issues better than words but the summary is, let the market be your slave, not your master. Don’t follow it, try and be contrary.
What has worked at Wimbledon?
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on July 2nd, 2009
Laying short priced favourites has worked well this in the tournament. Also, several matches have thrown up some wonderful trading opportunities to do this not just once but many times over. Hewitt and Roddick yesterday was another great trading match.
Putting that aside, one of the best tricks this tournament has been to listen to the ex-legends of the game. It’s remarkable how well they have called a lot of the matches. Today is potentially another example of this. Navratilova said that Williams vs Dementieva would be a tight match, spot on. She also hinted that the other semi-final would not be so tight. So bear that in mind when you start looking at the second semi-final.
Tennis trading for dummies
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on July 1st, 2009
Thanks to the unusual scoring system, tennis matches experience some of the wildest swings you will see in any inplay market and are worth a dabble even if you have never done it before. It can be pretty low risk as well.
I’ve worked for ages to model Tennis matches accurately. I’ve got to the point wehre I now have the ability to look ahead to see where the odds should be given any scenario. While this is useful, it’s not a pre-requistie to successful Tennis trading. In fact, if you are starting out it’s really quite simple to get your first successful trade under your belt.
Even at short odds the majority of odds drift in-play. This generally occurs because of a break of serve occuring at some point, or in the case of a very short priced favourtie a failure to break. If you don’t get either then the odds will obviously shorten. If you are at laying at low odds, then you have already framed your downside. So by using low stakes and laying the favorite at short odds at the start of the match, you have limited downside and lots of potential for upside. You are very likely to be able to trade out profitably.
Taking a bit more care to qualify or watch the start of the match and your strike rate will go up. Timing your exit when the favourite comes back into the match will allow you to get a better exit. Even if you use little skill you shouldn’t find yourself losing match after match, subject to your exit of course! From there you can build out to more adventurous strategies. Make sure you use Guardian as this will allow you to trade more than one match at the same time with stop losses and all the usual functions.

Andy Murray - Tennis traders dream!
Would rats be good at trading?
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on June 30th, 2009
Saw this article recently and wondered if this experiment would translate into the trading elements of the markets?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8105963.stm
But seriously, psychology has a big part to pay the way you approach any market but more specifically how you deal with losses, which is effectively what the rats are doing in this experiment. Losses create a pang of negative emotion and dealing with it is a often a critical key to success. Losses are normal, to be expected and part of your trading mix so not getting freaked out by them is a key factor in the way you approach a market. One of the classic failure points people experiance is a desire to avoid a loss at any cost, which often leads to chasing them. That works to a point but when eventually it fails, along with your trading bank.
It’s a cautionary tale, succesfull traders rely on good money management to earn profit; as they know that without that no amount of skill will earn them money. If you see any ‘traders’ who have lost their bank regulary then it should set off alarm bells for you. They are probably just gamblers at heart and may never escape the clutches of a bad mindset.
Day off
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on June 29th, 2009
With the racing looking pretty dreadful, the weather fantastic and my wife celebrating her birthday, a day behind the screen was a remote possibility today. Till August 24th, each Monday and Tuesday have only two cards on in the afternoon, excluding bank holidays. Often these are poorer quality affairs.
My advise, don’t kill yourself doing all races unless you feel you need to, there are plenty around in the summer. Try to strike the right balance and take the opportunitity to get some time off if you wish. Do this by trying to pick and choose your targets. With the Irish Derby on Sunday I opted to go out for the day, but time my arrival back home for the Derby. This took the pressure off feeling I needed to do anything today, Monday. Sometimes it’s worth taking a break!

Outstanding
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on June 28th, 2009
Could be another great trade but it’s not, its about your health.
Last year I suffered with my back. It was due to my posture, sitting down for very long periods of time. As a result I changed my lifestyle and also signed up to a posh gym with my own trainer. That has done wonders for my general well being and my back problems are a thing of the past.
Recently I started to notice was that my calf muscles are a bit ‘tight’. It appears that once again my posture is to blame. Because I used to do a lot of sport my legs muscles are very toned, just not that flexable. It seems that when I sit down now, my legs don’t carry enough weight and are too relaxed.
However the short term solution is quite simple. Stand more, but also put some support for your feet under the desk. This allows you to tense your lower leg muscles which will avoid calf problems. I have also made my PC headset wireless , which gives me the freedom to move around. On top of that I have a seperate area where I have set up a trading PC in a standing only position. So, as well as looking after your back, make sure you look after your legs as well!
I think all these problems show that I spend far too much time behind my desk. While the money is great I’m starting to think I need some broader changes in my life and a bit more balance. Rather than be a slave to the markets maybe I just need to stop pushing so hard and set off some new projects that don’t require me to sit behind the desk.
After all, never forget that good health is like money, difficult to get and easy to lose!
Another English masterclass
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on June 26th, 2009
At throwing away a match. It looks like the England U21 players have learnt a thing or two from their elder brethren. I’ve been switching frantically between the Tennis, the football and racing all afternoon. The Tennis hasn’t thrown up many clear cut opportunities today but in between races I saw England were 3-0 and cruising it. I immediately thought, well they are surely in the final. So I put in a small lay at 1.01.
I think the only time I will ever feel comfortable with England is if they are 14-0 up with 30 seconds left! At least I was lucky on this occasion. Somebody was unlucky enough to lay the draw at 1000!!!
Just waiting for a player to get sent off, for it to go to penalties and for England to blast a few over the bar.

Is this a first?
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on June 26th, 2009
Just traded the 14:30 at Folkstone and the favourite was George Baker, ridden by, George Baker! George is a good jockey he just can’t get enough rides due to his height and therefore weight.
Curiously the race was won by another name, Huygens, no namesake jockey there though. The famous Huygens died in 1695. That would have been a first!
Huygens is reckoned to have written the first book on probability theory in 1657 but also is credited with discovering rings around Saturn. The NASA mission named Cassini-Huygens is one of the most successful and fascinating in recent times.
Suspect betting at Wimbledon
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on June 24th, 2009
Yesterday’s game in question featured Austria’s Jürgen Melzer, 28, who is ranked 30th in the world, and Wayne Odesnik, 23, a South African-born American ranked 109th. Melzer was the favourite and always should have been, but bookmakers reported “extraordinary” sums on him winning by three sets to love. He won 6-1, 6-4, 6-2.
The most astonishing figure is that £350,000 was traded on Melzer to win 3-0 on Betfair alone, at odds as short as 1-9. A comparable match between players with low profiles, on an outside court and not on TV would be expected to attract about £10,000 in set betting. Yesterday’s gamble suggests that a number of people had a strong belief in a Melzer win and by a 3-0 scoreline.
Before the game, £405,000 had been wagered on the overall outcome match (Melzer or Odesnik) on Betfair, with £395,000 of that on Melzer. On the specific scoreline, £242,000 was bet before the match, and £241,000 of that on 3-0 to Melzer.
Setanta goes into administration
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on June 23rd, 2009

Not a surprise really but it it’s a pain in the proverbial for Racing UK. A quick interview on the channel this evening confirmed that things will continue but Racing UK will revert to their £20 a month model. Short term there seems to be a bit of confusion over how the broadcasting will continue without funding but the CEO looked confident that it would remain in its current format. I hope so, as the coverage on Racing UK is just perfect for Bet Angel customers.
Wimbledon
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on June 22nd, 2009
Two weeks of excellent Tennis liquidity and trading await us. Take your chance to have a try at trading Tennis while it’s here, as the liquidity and range of opportunities are usually pretty big.
Please don’t forget that matches can last days if you are unlucky. So bear that in mind when you first get involved in a trade. You don’t want to get involved in something for a small profit that could trample over other opportunities. Likewise, you don’t want to get distracted by too many things at once, in either direction.
Looking at the women I have had my eye on Caroline Wozniaki for sometime. It’s a shame that she won Eastbourne as she was trading at 40’s before that win, she is now in the 20’s. She was definately value at 40’s but I’m not so sure at 20’s. In the mens draw it’s all about Federer and Murray but the look of the odds. But I fancy a play on an outsider making it to the later stages rather than an outright trade. Therefore I’m looking to dutch a chunk of the field and get my outsider that way. With Murray mania high, it’s going to be an interesting two weeks.
What’s the price of a good start?
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on June 21st, 2009
Thought this may be of interest to you ahead of this weeks British Grand Prix. With the right tactics any market can be traded. I don’t know how to price up a Formula one market but I have made some good trades on it this year. My best trade was laying Lewis Hamilton to win the drivers championship, have a search for that if you wish to read why I did that.
At Monaco, the notoriously tight circuit where overtaking is a word, not an action. It seemed logical that the best trade was to back the person that was most likely to be at the front at the first corner. They would immediately have a clear advantage and were unlikely to be challenged, especially if it was one of the very competitive Brawn GP drivers.
Button got that good start and accelerated into and away from the first corner. The market responded by shortening his price by around 15%. So, there you have your answer. A good start, at Monaco at least, is worth in excess of 10%!

Is not just about Ascot
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on June 20th, 2009
While these big racing weeks bring lots of activity in the market you could be forgiven for thinking that everybody is just focused on the big races. I know some people prefer volatility while others hate it, some do well on the big races and others don’t. I tend to never pre-judge what is infront of me or set targets. I just try the best I can using all the tools available to me.
As a case in point, on Friday I started the day with a loss, no surprise there! After getting the first Ascot race under my belt I was then greeted by a massive steamer at Redcar. If I didn’t know how to swing trade I would have missed it. But jumping on the back of this opportunity, not only put the Ascot race in the shade a little, it got me off to a postive start and with spirits lifted, I trounched the day across the card.
So if you struggled to get anything from Ascot this week, don’t worry there is always opportunity in every market. You just need an open mind to find it.

Nadal out!
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on June 19th, 2009
Big news from SW19. With Nadal out that dramatically opens up the draw for Murray at Wimbledon. There is a good summary on the official Wimbledon site.
http://www.wimbledon.org/en_GB/news/articles/2009-06-19/200906191245412912140.html
Nadal out of Wimbledon?
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on June 19th, 2009
See the following article: -
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/8085394.stm
This would open up the draw for Murray and create quite an interesting tournament. Nadal’s price has drifted already. The draw is out today and whether Nadal takes part or not is going to have a huge impact. Turn’s out Wimbledon is exciting, even before it’s started!
Ffos flop
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on June 18th, 2009
Frustrating to see Tipperary trampling over the debut of Ffos Las this evening. I was hoping to get a better look at the markets at this new course but Tipperary is clashing with the start of each race at Ffos Las. I’ve carried on and traded the races any way, but I haven’t been able to get much out of them. Mainly wins but one Ffos loss!
I guess I will have to wait for the next fixture to see the course in its full glory.
Ffos Las
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on June 18th, 2009
Well done to the management of Ffos Las on getting a new racecourse on the cards without too much fuss. Apparantly it is built on the site of what used to be one of the biggest open cast mines in Europe. The more the merrier, Racecourses that is, not open cast mines! Hopefully it will bring us some better quality racing than Great Leighs saw in its short time in the limelight.
Anticipating Ascot
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on June 15th, 2009
Well the biggest week of year for flat racing is almost upon us and I can’t wait. Some friends and I took all the children to Legoland yesterday so we passed by Ascot on the way, the racecourse is only just up the road from me. I couldn’t resist popping in for a quick peak. I could practically hear the roar of the crowd and the thunder of hooves when I looked across the racecourse.
Excitement is high, but also apprehension. I am always up against increasing results from previous years so each year gets harder for me as I have to find better ways to put money to use in the market. You don’t need to be successful very often before you run out of space! It’s curious that having more money to use in these markets is a curse not a blessing, contrary to what some may suggest.
Taking this into account and talking of using less money, somebody reminded me this morning that three years ago I did the ‘Royal Ascot trading challenge’. I used a bank of £1500 and had to double it on the week. It went a bit better than that as it only took three days to double. I’ve re-posted the results of that original challenge below.
While there is always uncertainty surrounding these critical meetings, in terms of possible performance. One thing is certain, I definitely wont be using £1500 as a maximum stake this week!!
Royal Ascot challenge images from 2006: -



Whoops!
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on June 13th, 2009
Evens shot turned over, has this happened before? OK, that headline doesn’t sound particularly exciting as this must happen very often, but not like this!
For some strange reason, every now and again, the market goes bonkers and this happened again last night. I got filled at 2’s on something that should have been 30’s way before the start of the race. At first I didn’t realise it had happened, but when my P&L started showing some odd amounts I figured something odd must have happened. A quick scan around the market showed that Halaak had been backed in from mid 30’s to just 1.84! Not just once but on several occasions. An obvious error and one that gave the backer pretty much no chance of getting a return. For anybody able to lay at the smaller prices, probably the best trade you will make for a while!

Money can buy you success
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on June 11th, 2009
Looking at the £80m Real Madrid have paid for Ronaldo you have to ask, is it good value? Well according to the stats ,the answer on value is not clear but on “will it bring success?”, pretty emphatic.
I’ve studied loads of things about football markets including some less than obvious statistics. One of these is whether buying good players pays dividends. The answer was much more emphatic that I ever expected. There is a very high correlation of wages paid to league position.It seems money does buy success!
If you look at the 07/08 premier league season the correlation was near 90%. This meant that the league pretty much ended up with the lower spending teams near the bottom and the higher spending teams at the top. This would have been much higher if the free spending Newcastle had performed to their expected level. The big four, not only ended up in the top four but also have the top four wage bills. What happened to the three teams with the lowest wage bill? Relegation.
Sorry, but if your club owner doesn’t have big pockets it’s unlikely you will ever challenge those that do.
Setanta halt new subscriptions
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on June 10th, 2009
Setanta popped this notice up on their web site today: -
http://www.setanta.com/global/ie.html
Looks like things are critical at Setanta. The racing post seems to indicate that Racing UK will not be affected if there is a problem with Setanta, which looks pretty likely at this moment in time. I, for one, would be thankful if Racing UK survives in it’s current format. I have no hesitation paying for the better coverage you get on Racing UK, as it pays to do so.
My research shows that on all types of races I perform better when watching Racing UK than when watching At the races. There may be a few inconsistancies in the data but this clearly points to the fact that the coverage on Racing UK allows me to make better judgements. The presenters and crew are very quick to pick up on things and I think this helps. Also, the lack of pressure to put adverts in means extended coverage of the build up to each race. Given the impact on my ability to trade effectively, I’ll pay for that any day!
Feeling poor?
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on June 10th, 2009
Was doing some research the other night for an investment fund I am on the board of. We were looking at consumer oriented companies and arguing about disposable income. I went off and dug around to see what I could find on the average wage in the UK and thought I would share this with you.
Before you click on the link, work out how much you earn and have a guess at where you are in the grand scheme of things. Then click on the link and find out for real! Very interesting.
Biggest shock ever?
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on June 7th, 2009
This is what could happen today when Soderling steps out at Roland Garros to compete for the title of French open champion. Before the start of the tournament £1371 was traded at 1000 on Soderling. There is £1.3m riding on the outcome of this match at 1000’s.
I am all green on any winner on the final thanks in main to Nadal’s exit. Given the starting odds of Soderling it would be great if he won but spreading my profit is more likely a sensible move. I remember very well the last person I backed to win a tennis tournament at 1000. It was Maria Sharapova at Wimbledon, it would be great to Soderling pull it off!
