Archive for May, 2009

Nadal brings bonus

Well that was a surprise, Nadal crashed out of the french open today which opens up the competition dramatically. £1,159,628 was traded at 1.03 on Nadal, Ouch! In all when Nadal came back into the match and traded at 1.08 £9.4m out of £9.5m had backed Nadal. Low backers took a serious, serious thrashing today.

For me it was an unexpected bonus as I had dutched the field, excluding a number of players, with the intention of catching an unexpected outsider doing well or a short price player going out early. To be honest I didn’t expect Nadal to go at this point so I am now very green across the winner market. I think I have done enough and have closed out any red at this point.

The French Open is turning out to be the best Tennis tournament I have traded for some time. It’s a great confidence boost ahead of Wimbledon. Lets hope it continues!

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Murray serves up another great trade

If the Tennis carries on like this we could be in for a cracking warm up to Wimbledon. Murray again stuttered at the start of this match today, but fought back to take the first set. A weary Tipsarevic then retired after losing. Very similar scenario to the previous Murray trade. Murray is on court again today, so worth taking a look in what is likely to be a more competitive match.

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Let your profits run

In the stock market they say, “Cut your losses and let your profits run”. In this video you can see us ensure we never lose money, but we keep our upside open to get the maximum potential profit. A fairly intuitive strategy.

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In clay trading

Great news, it’s the French Open. Your last chance to practice your Tennis trading before Wimbledon. While you are having a practice take a look at Bet Angel’s Guardian feature which is perfect for Tennis training. I’ve uploaded a video here: -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4X25nbH7vA

Murray served up a good start trading opportunity with a roller-coaster against an opponent ranked well below him. Starting at 1.05 and out of sorts, Murray sort of stumbled through the early part of the match with a bunch of unforced errors.This handed the initiative to Starace.

At 1.05 Murray looked a certainty but I’d always prefer to lay at this level. I didn’t though, as it was early on in the tournament and I didn’t expect a struggle. What I did do however was sit and wait for a turning point. With Starace heading for a 2-1 set lead I decided to get involved.  I was really looking for Murray to get his game together, grab a few points or games and for Starace to drop his head. Sport is all about confidence and being in the zone. If you reach that point or fall out of it, things change.

I missed the exact turning point, but managed to back Murray at 2.14 when he seemed to step up a gear with some demoralising shots against his opponent. From there Murray really started to play better and better. My exact entry was determined by the change in mood on court but equally importantly, the up and downside risk. At the point I got involved Starace was priced to win the second set. If he did, my downside was limited but if Murray, ranked 100 places higher, turned things around the price would collapse back towards the starting price of 1.05 pretty quickly. That’s exactly what happened. Once Murray found his gear things really started to motor and Starace lost his way. When the price reached 1.07 I laid the trade back into the market for a fully green profit of 100% of my stake. I greened at this level for a similar reason as at the top. Here the upside was limited and the downside more prominent. As the match progresses the swings get wilder so for the sake of a few pound it was worth closing out. I also needed to get out for a walk or something for lunch. The road from 1.07 to 1.01 was going to take a bit of time and it didn’t make sense to hang on given the risk profile. Considering all the above it made sense to close at that point.

In all an excellent trade, Andy, I owe you another beer.

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Biggest ever premium charge? Pt 2

It was quite amusing to see my previous post a few months ago, suddenly spring to life.

http://www.betangel.com/blog_wp/2009/02/25/biggest-premium-charge/

Unfortunately it seems to have been hijacked into an anti in-running fast pictures debate. This is quite amusing as the charges, note the question mark on both posts, are nothing to do with horse racing and definitely not in-running. I guess people will always try to stir up controversy if it suits their agenda and that’s probably the motivation to incorrectly pin this to in-running horse racing.

I’ve no doubt that fast pictures were an advantage a few years ago but all markets get more and more competitive over time, not less. This edge is one that has been significantly eroded. After All, the best way to beat it is to turn up to a course and that’s available to everybody. The main problem still revolves around the fact that it is possible to beat the delay, that’s another debate all together!

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Murray is 11% better than Starace

Just watching the 2nd round match at the French open. According to the market at the ‘off’ Murray was 11% better than Starace at winning a point on his serve. Currently Murray just lost the second set, but reading the match Murray appeared to lose hope of turning around the second set and effectively just gave it away, probably to conserve energy. With Murray serving first in the third set I may consider backing Murray subject to how the third set unfolds.

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Proposed tax on forex trades to raise $50bn aid?

Hmm, more like proposed tax ruins perfectly efficient market. Well fairly efficient, anyhow. Saw this in the Sunday papers over the weekend when I was at the gym.

I do wonder on the credentials of politicians, especially ones that tax everything that moves. Forex trading is a tempting market given the quoted turnover of $1 quadrillion ($1000 million). But the reason this market is so huge is because of the amount of speculation that takes place. I know John at Juicestorm is a keen forex trader and, in fact, Betfair markets are very similar in terms of their function and use. There is a lot of activity at the money in the markets in the hope of scalping a few ticks here and there. But a lot of trades come to nothing or are closed out for a small loss. It’s a numbers game, trying to get the positives to outweigh the negatives. Some people scalp, some swing trade but over all there is mountains of activity right on the money and a lot of it is not value oriented but trading oriented.

The prime minister is under pressure from a coalition of UK and international campaign groups to back a 0.005% micro-tax on the market. It is estimated that it would raise up to $50 billion a year. The trouble is that money would effectively be a whopping rake on what is effectively a zero sum market. Margins are very tight in forex and any additional costs would ruin it as a trading market. If such a tax did happen then a whole legion of traders would get wiped out I suspect. If that happened, that figure of $1 quadrillion would shrink, raising less tax.

I think the trouble is these sorts of taxes are seen as quite soft as people wouldn’t see it in their pocket. It’s almost as bad an idea as rasing taxation and lowering limits on pensions at a time when pensions are underfunded. Boy are future generations going to pay for that!

Anyhow, I’ll keep an eye on this story. Can’t see it working to be honest!

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Has this happened before?

Manic scenes on Monday at the last race at Leicester. Out of the original 14 runner field six horses never started the race. Not unusual for non-runners, but five of these horses made it to the start but never got into the stalls. As a result of the non applicable reduction factors Betfair SP returned 98%. Not such great news for layers!

I don’t have extensive records for this, but the records I do have go back about three years and I’ve never seen this before. I’ve seen three in one race before but never five horses at the start that fail to run. Technical failures have caused problems in the past. I remember a race at Redcar where only half the stalls opened which obviously caused problems. But five non starters due to failure to load, must be some sort of record?

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Last day relegation mayhem

I must admit to quite liking relegation markets. On top of my Southampton bet, I had a nibble at West Brom to be relegated, their escape look totally improbable. Today we have a whole multitude of opportunities.

Based upon past experience, backing or laying the field will throw up a bundle of opportunities as the afternoon progresses. You can see Newcastle and Middlesbrough perhaps getting something out of their games but Hull? If Hull hold on or even take the lead the market could shape up significantly differently. We also have the added interest of what team Man Utd will field given the proximity of the champions league final. Keep an eye out on the match odds market when the team is announced. Last night Barcelona fielded a weakened team against Osasuna, I reckon that Ferguson will follow suit.

Middlesbrough need a miracle, especially given their track record. An away win by four clear goals at West Ham would see them have some chance of safety. But with the relegation market priced at 1.03 their fall from grace looks almost sealed. That is effectively pricing in a 97% chance of that result not occurring. If you thing they have a better than 3% chance of a pulling off an away win of four goals or more you can lay. But I have to say at 33′s that doesn’t look a lay to me!

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Good run

Just broken a nice winning run today.

Until the 15:35 today I had managed to get 47 winning races in a row, not my best this year but my best for a little while and a welcome relief from a month that has brought a lower strike rate than average.

Of course, your strike rate is directly related to your maximum likely winning run and losing run. Take more risks and your strike rate will fall, less and it will rise. But it is how you perform over all that matters the most, you have to strike a balance. People also cope differently to winning and losing runs and the impact of different styles.

There is no point in having a high strike rate and making big losses when they occur. Scalpers will have a high strike rate but big losses when they occur and swing traders the opposite. Lots of small losses when they get it wrong followed by big gains when they are right. Both show different characteristics but both will fail if losses get out of hand. This is why a lot of people have trouble using both at the same time, each of them require a different mindset. If you can do both then that’s a big step forward.

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Outrageous risk – Part three

I have finally got round to the last part of this mini series of posts. Sorry for the delay but we have been busy working on some completely new tools for Bet Angel and that has drawn a lot of my attention. For my sins, I’m always the front line when it comes to testing. Thank fully the new stuff is all working well and we forward to bring you something, just a little bit different.

To reprise, as an experiment we thought we would enter the market at random by backing the favourite at 1pm in the afternoon and leaving our position completely exposed. We only closed out at the official off time. For reasons too complicated to explain at this time, this is one of the riskiest strategies you could adopt.

First off, I don’t recommend you do this, but you can see that we didn’t do too badly. Our stake was £1 per tick or a maximum of £100, so we only lost a tiny part of that in return for taking unbridled risk. The reason this happened is that when the market moved in our favour that helped us, when it didn’t work for us the downside wasn’t actually that bad. If we would have limited our upside to one tick the P&L would have looked significantly worse but by catching the swings we have benefited. Volatility can help as much as it hinders. You can also learn a lot from this P&L, as striking out one of those bigger errors would have made us profitable on the day. Closing out good trades before they turned would have also helped. In short it wasn’t a massive leap to profitability. We just needed to minimise our mistakes.

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By managing our risk, I mean we have avoided trying to get a move out of a race that is unlikely to produce one, we changed strategy. But we were also focused on cutting our losses where we get the direction wrong, riding our profits when it is right, and closing out as best we can. You can instantly see the difference. A big improvement from the random version. Rather than just adopting a one fits all strategy by varying our outlook on the market and using a bit of intelligence we have turned things in our favour.

Obviously I’ve had many years of practice, but the same elements I use can be adopted by others. It’s really as simple as making sure you maintain your discipline and avoid obvious errors. Imagine teeing off on an 18 hole course, in your hand a putter. You will no doubt perform worse than somebody with a full bag of clubs. That is why I suggest that when you look at a market, you don’t wave a putter at it. You will keep moving forward for sure, but not as fast as somebody who has just driven the ball 300 yards down the fairway! It’s a competitive world out there so make sure you do your best to compete.

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Experiance matters

If there is one important thing I can suggest to you, it is to read. Having learnt the art of delegation in increasing frequency,  I tend to read a lot. I should also give credit to my team who offer me such excellent support.  It’s interesting what pops out of the woodwork now and again.  I caught this article today about football managers: -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/simonaustin/2009/05/experience_matters_in_manageme.html

Seeing some of the stats caught my attention and a few phone calls later I uncovered quite a bit of research that had been done, that I hadn’t previously been aware of. Unfortunately I doubt I will be able to use it till next season. Till then more reading by the look of it!

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Gentle Mulla

Not exactly an appropiate name  for the moves seen on this horse. I was hoping for a good finish to the day and landed this wild ride instead.  My P&L was all over the place but I managed to regain my composure for a £40 profit, but this was one manic end to the day!

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Who let the dogs out?

I thought of calling this post ‘Dogging’ but changed my mind! LOL!

I noticed last night that it was the greyhound derby semi finals at Wimbledon. I’ll often nip in and do something on the Dogs if I get the chance and I did last night. If you have never traded them before they are worth a go but don’t expect horse racing like results. The liquidity is lower and the opportunities a bit up and down. The main opportunities are often squeezed right in to the end of the card. Because I don’t do them that often I am a little rusty but still managed to get £60 out of one race.

The Derby final is on Saturday so if you want a go at a quality market you will get the chance this weekend.

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Best trade ever?

I say this far too often, but there have been another two excellent candidates in the last week or so.

On Friday 8th at Aintree we had one of the clearest cut swing trading opportuntities I have ever seen, almost the perfect set up. Not only was it very likely to be a good swing trading opportunity, but for any savvy trader active on this race there were several clear markers laid down as to where you should get involved. The price rocketed from 2.00 to 2.78 in double quick time. It was one of the lowest risk to reward trades I have seen in some time. I was in dialogue with somebody during the trade and he can tell you just how excited I got, it was a great trading opportunity, as long as you were not scalping!

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Aintree 20:10 - Trade of year?

The most recent stand out opportunity was on Saturday at Uttoxeter. Insignia drifted from 3.5 to 9, a 550% return on your stake and then came right back in to 4.50, another 450%. If you managed to catch them both perfectly you would have walked away with 10 times your stake in profit. Look at the graph though and you can see that this wasn’t at all  as clear cut as Aintree, this was a very challenging trade. But it was still an outstandingf trading move. Conditions were good last week and despite my early week mess up, I actually had an excellent week overall so I feel very positive about the month as a whole now.

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Steamer or Drifter?

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Unlucky for some

A year ago this week one of my worst ever losses in one race came occurred on the 13th May. It hurt but I quickly put it behind me got on with things and forged ahead on the week with some nice results.

As I approached the same week this year, I thought, “What a great opportunity to beat last years total”. Rather bizarrely on the 13th May this year I pretty much did a repeat performance. Quite unbeleiveably bizarre! As first, I didn’t even realize the coincidence till I was prompted. Like last year, I have quickly put it behind me and forged on for the week. I am sure it is a complete fluke but when things like that happen you can’t help but wonder why?

As it is, it is a lost opportunity for this week. I will beat last year, but not completely smash it. It would have had a top ten week if it wasn’t for the cock up. On the plus side, I have now caught up on last year despite taking February off. For this this week, there is always next year I suppose and maybe it would make sense to take the 13th off!

It’s already set up in outlook as a reminder.

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Sponsorship

Just a quick note to to let you know of two people who are running this weekend for charity. The first is the nephew of the late Will Johnson.

Will was a Bet Angel customer for some time and was the key to spotting the initial cross matching algorithm that Betfair implemented without warning. When Will dropped me a email, we were quickly able to compare notes see there was a significant change prompting me to escalate the issue to Betfair for an explanation. Sadly Will passed away last year at the age of only 20, he suffered an unexpected gastrointestinal hemorrhage while in Spain.

http://www.justgiving.com/josephlloyd

Bet Angel user Darren Hall is running the senior race and looking for sponsorship as well.

http://www.justgiving.com/bet72

I am also running in a race this weekend, but I’m not looking for sponsorship. I’ve run 2-300 races in my time so it’s definitely a case of charity fatigue from those that I know! Don’t let that stop you offering support for either of the runners this weekend.

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Outrageous risk – Part Two

To recap. Last Thursday we backed the favourite at a fixed time of the day and let our losses run without re-dress. Basically it was dumb, reckless swing trading with complete abandon. By doing this we were opening ourselves to potential losses that could be massive. Only at post time did we bother to close our position. Other than that, we let risk run to its fullest extent.

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(b) Lose a bunch of money

(c) Neither

Well (a) seems unrealistic unless we were very lucky. You would have been incorrect if you opted for option (a). If you opted for option (b) you would have also been wrong, we didn’t lose a bunch of money. In fact it was (c) that was correct, we neither made nor lost a bunch of money. In fact we were only just short of break even on the day. This illustrates at least a couple of points.

The first is that just as volatility can work against you it can work for you as well. It’s a glass half full / half empty moment. While it may start moving away from you, it can also work spectacularly in your favour. It is no coincidence that most of my biggest ever wins have been on great swing trading races. Again, I don’t recommend this blind strategy as it can be dramatically improved upon. But you can’t escape that, as I showed in an earlier post, some of these swings can be significant. Therefore it’s unrealistic to assume that because there is a lot of movement it will only be in the wrong direction!

In part three we will have a closer look at that P&L and compare it to another and make a couple of suggestions.

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New ladder features

Just a quick post to introduce you to the new ladder features you may not be aware of yet. We uploaded this video which gives you a view of some of the key updates. Click here for the high quality version.

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Slingtrading

Those that have followed me for a few years will know that one of my favourite toys in the office is a Slingbox.

A Slingbox allows you to ‘sling’ pictures and audio out of your home to where-ever you are in the world. All you need is a decent Internet connection and you will be able to tap back into your horse racing pictures back at home. This opens up the possibility of being able to trade from pretty much anywhere in the world while keeping an eye on what it going on, on course.

Now things just got even better as Slingmedia have just released a sling player for the iPhone. You can read more about it here http://uk.slingmedia.com/go/iphone. Now I can keep an eye on things using that, it’s perfect! It’s been really useful for me to have access to pictures when I am elsewhere in the UK or the world and I’d definately recommend getting a slingbox. They are great and even better now you can watch them on an iPhone.

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Outrageous risk – Part One

This is how many would describe the following strategy I am about to outline.

The strategy takes on the maximum risk possible in a market, here it is :-

Go into the market at 1pm and back every favourite with a £1 tick size….. that’s it! Ok, you will have to close your position before the off, but that’s about it from a strategy viewpoint. No offsetting your order or closing out one tick away from your entry price. By the way, don’t do this till you read part two!

Sounds like madness, but what will actually happen from here? Have a careful think about it. According to some you will lose a fortune as your position drifts hopelessly away from you, taking your money with it. Putting the rhetoric aside, what’s the reality? Well the results may surprise you.

Volatility is often seen as the enemy in markets, but a chance meeting in a pub in Throgmorton Street in London changed my view on volatility forever. In the middle of the city of London you may expect my inspiration to be a trader of some sort, maybe a quant trader; but it was actually a telecoms engineer. I was chatting to him over a pint and was explaining how volatility was the joker in the pack, we were talking about stock prices. “Oh that’s easy!” he explained and went on to describe how he predicts noise when he is looking at transmission of data. After meeting him I did some research to learn more. Curiously, what he pointed out, predicted the variability of the stock market very accurately. When I started looking at horse racing I realised that the very same characteristics were likely to occur here as well. What I learnt was that volatility can actually work in your favour given the right circumstances. It was a revelation.

So how did this crazy experiment work out? Well I perfomed this experiment randomly last Thursday. Keep tuned into the blog for part two and the results.

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Betfair files case against Dutch Government

Betfair announced on Thursday that it has filed an action with the civil district court of The Hague against the Dutch government — alleging that the government has actively called for payment blocking on gambling Web sites.

Also launching a formal complaint to the European Commission, Betfair said its actions come after the Dutch Ministry of Justice reportedly issued a letter “urging Dutch banks not to process payments from any Dutch customers wishing to place a bet on any legal gaming Web site”

Calling the Dutch Ministry’s move “desperate,” Mark Davies, Betfair’s managing director, said that it also goes against Dutch consumer interests and “fly in the face of the EU principles.”

“It is madness that the Netherlands, as one of the founding members of the single market, has resorted to illegal tactics that prevent consumer choice and go against the treaty,” he said in a company statement.

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How many racing traders are there?

I often get asked how many traders are on the exchanges, how much volume do they do etc? The honest answer is that I currently don’t know, but I can confirm roughly how many existed a few years ago.

Back in 2003 Betfair issued a document that actually clearly laid out what a market looked like. In the document they looked at a horse race and showed how many people placed back bets only, how many laid only and how many did both; trading in other words.

I worked out how to ‘trade’ by accident. I started on the exchanges doing arbitrage. I would do this by backing at a bookmaker and laying off on the exchange. I soon realised you could actually do the same thing on an exchange by simply putting money back into the market at a different price, instead of at a bookmaker.

By 2003 according to the Betfair document, on one particular race, more than 500 people had figured out the very same thing. It turns out that this activity made up nearly one fifth of the participants in the market. By volume it accounted for nearly 50% of the entire market.

That was a bit of a revelation to me as I hadn’t really spoken to many people about what I was doing, mainly because people didn’t understand or care.  So it was quite a surprise to learn back in 2003 that more than 500 people were quite likely doing a similar thing. There have been some pretty high profile casualties in the intervening years, I wonder how many of those 500 are still around? I doubt I’ll ever learn, but at least I can sort of part answer the original question.

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Horse trotting

Never thought I was see a group three race run at a trot but that’s what happened on the ‘feature’ race today. All three jockeys thought it was a good idea to hold up the horses, but it seemed neither knew that the other was going to do this. That turned the 1m5f ‘sprint’ into an equestrian event! The winner took 3m45s to cover the course distance, versus the standard time of only 2m52s.

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Betfair changes matching process

Betfair have just announced that they are to change the way bets can be matched on their exchange. This is a move back to the early days of Betfair and an original concept that is actually in use by other exchanges. Full information is listed here: -

http://site.forum.betfair.com/jive3/betex/ThreadsFrameset.jsp?forumID=9&forumName=Service&threadID=1931073&tName=Improvement+to+the+display+of+unmatched+bets&schatname=&iMessageCount=1

Difficult to judge the immediate impact but certainly a lot of markets will have the illusion of money in them. You are also more likely to get matched more often I would guess. On the downside some arb opportunities may have just vanished! I’ve asked the guys to put a link up in the forum so everybody can discuss in there.

It comes into force next Tuesday.

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The losers game

Ever felt like somebody is deliberately trying to coax you into a mistake when you trade?

When I first started trading I wasn’t sure why the market did what it did, but my response to this was was quite simple and something I have always done in any market I have participated in. I started keeping detailed records of everything I did.

Sounds incredibly dull and uninteresting, but it’s actually the core of any successful strategy. What I was looking to do, was to strike out any obvious errors and look for failure points. Profit or loss is such a fine line, by striking out errors  you can  start to turn things in your favour. By looking for failure points and looking at your loss rate,  you can learn what task  you have ahead in order to turn profitable. When things didn’t work out as planned, I simply looked at my records. I was looking for some comparison, explanation or correlation to any previous results that would explain why something didn’t work. I could learn form that and over time, striking out those errors or adapting your behaviour allows you to morph into a core strategy.

This is how I figured out a one fits all strategy just isn’t effective if you want to get really successful. Some strategies work well in some markets and others perform better elsewhere. You should also be aware that some people fit some strategies better than others. Learning about yourself is all part of the process.

Learning to win is one thing, but losing and learning why you lose is critical in the scheme of things. Over time I have got better and better at identifying what I should do, when and why. This also has the dual impact of reducing  the freqeuncy and scale of your losses allowing you to put more and more money through as you feel more comfortable with the downside risk you are taking.

My first bet on the exchanges was £5, I now bet millions a week as my focus has changed from not just try to do the right thing but trying to do it with as much money as possible. You too can achieve the same thing with some hard work and by looking long and hard, not at your wins but particulary your losses. It’s a losers game.

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Why away goals are so critical

I’ve often looked at the away goal rule in European football competition and pondered this rule and how it changes matches. When a team is level, say 0-0 from the first leg. A goal by the away team is effectively worth two goals. This is because the home team can only win the match now by scoring two goals.

This is inherently unfair in my opinion as, on average, home advantage is worth about 0.40 goals to the home team.  If it is worth two goals as detailed in the previous scenario, that distorts things a far bit. Therefore the emphasis shifts dramatically to the away goal and either scoring, or not conceding it. I guess it works,  in so far as everybody is aware of it. But in reality, from a statistical perspective, it’s wrong.

That said, I seriously doubt UEFA are going to implement a revision to this process, but it is interesting to note that the importance is much greater than it initially appears. It’s fairly distorting, but also has quite an impact if you don’t get that critical away goal. Some food for thought for tacticians.

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The one that got away

Ah well, you could feel it coming but I just, by seconds, failed to get filled with a very short priced lay on Chelsea this evening. Would have walked away with a nice profit but that counts for nothing now as my lay did not get filled, despite touching my target price. Somebody got filled ahead of me, so well done to the punter that got filled at 1.05. For the sake of an extra £10 I could have bagged £1k! Still,  I made the decision to go for 1.05, such is life. It will happen again.

Bad luck Chelsea, but one goal was never safe enough. I always feel it’s incredible with such amounts of money at stake, that we don’t have video refs at this level. I think if I was a Chelsea player I would have also gone nuts at the end.

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Chelsea vs. Barcelona

Interested to see the market is pricing in 2.6-2.7 goals in the Chelsea match this evening, slight advantage to Barcelona. Of course, the scenario is similar to last night but more finely balanced, lets hope the match turns out that way as well!

It’s also interesting to see the draw being laid / teams being backed ahead of tonights match, this happened last night as well. Looking forward to the action this evening.

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Half time talks

With Man Utd in zone at the moment with a 2-0 half time lead against Arsenal, they wouldn’t have wanted the half time break. In contrast Arsenal desperately needed it. Now Wenger’s managerial skills will be tested to the limit and if it has the desired effect Arsenal will come out all guns blazing, excuse the pun.

Meanwhile, Man U just need to keep it tight at the back. If you have already made some cash, consider laying Man U in the second half with some of it. With the price of Man U now at 1.15, laying some profit back could prove a useful tactic in the second half. Downside is slight but the upside potential is good, given the incentive for Arsenal.

Arsenal must score, so you wont catch me betting against a third goal! Arsenal will have to throw men forward eventually so that third goal is highly likely from one side or the other in the second half. Either Arsenal will throw enough men forward to score or Man U will catch them on the break.

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