Archive for March, 2010
Lacking inspiration
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on March 31st, 2010
Had a good look at the champions league this week, but just lacked inspiration to do or say much about it. The markets were pretty much spot on with their pricing and with the matches being first leg matches, I just couldn’t muster up any wisdom or opportunities. The second legs will provide more interest and hopefully more opportunities.
I’d like to say something, but making up something for the sake of it isn’t my style and it may be more informative for you to let you know I couldn’t see any clear opportunities. Sometimes doing nothing is the right thing to do, if you can’t see a clear opportunity in the market then there probably isn’t one there. I am sure that one line could have save people a lot of money, if only they stuck to it!
I am having a cracking end to March so I should top out at a record for March. Things really start to warm up again next month so peak season isn’t far away now! We are working frantically behind the scenes to finish some projects here before we launch into the busiest time of the year.
Made in Dubai
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on March 30th, 2010
Well I did say it was probably worth doing! I managed to get slightly more than the £50 I managed last year, but was helped by a number of favourable mitigating factors and a bit of luck. Sometimes you need that to pull out a good result. The race itself must be one of few where the prize money dwarfs the turnover on Betfair. It was a great race as well, probably the most expensive photo finish in racing history. There is a video of it here: -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vGrCp5MluA
Don’t believe that there is suddenly some wonderful characteristic with this race or venue. I’d be surprised if I can achieve this again. It was just a case of everything falling into place just perfectly and being in the right frame of mind and having the skill to take advantage of that. I think I’ll have to wait a while before I get this chance again.

Much fun was had
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on March 29th, 2010
I found myself at the new Wembley stadium yesterday, the first chance I have had to go. It was a useful coincidence as the match was on a Sunday, my usual day off, and it is my birthday this week. So it seemed a good chance to ‘go large’ and have a decent day out.
I took my eldest daughter and my son with me as well so they could experience the occasion. It was great and well worth the effort, much fun was had by all! From outside, the stadium looks impressive, it’s surroundings less so. But once inside it’s spectacular and generates a real sense of occasion.
I was hoping for a decent result for Southampton and that’s what happened, it was a perfect day out. I had posted up on the forum that I thought they were value at the odds offered and that’s pretty much how it played out. Carlisle didn’t really do themselves any favours though. There were a huge number of Southampton fans at the ground, estimated at around 44,000, which is quite a surprise given that the town only has a population of 250,000!
I think, like others, I have quite enjoyed the lower reaches of the football league. I know that sounds daft but after years of hanging on in the premiership it’s really nice to watch matches where you are actually in with a chance of winning! I think the top ranked teams have caused football to lose it’s soul a bit. League positions are pretty much being sorted out now by how much money you have to spend. In the lower leagues it feels a lot more like the football I used to remember when I was young. Each club also seems to have a local hero in the side, good inspiration for aspiring young footballers.
Anyhow, back to business today and feeling slightly jaded after the weekends entertainment. But well worth it!
Having a look at the stadium just before lunch
Richest race in the world
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on March 27th, 2010
Today sees the worlds richest horse race take place at Meydan, the Dubai world cup.
I’ve dabbled on the Meydan markets this year and they have been just fine. A very useful addition to the P&L during the tough winter months. Therefore I’d recommend a dabble in these markets if the volume is holding up and there is no clashing with other races. The world cup stands out on it’s own as a race later in the day so that is definately worth a go. I only got £50 from it last year so should do better this year.
Today is the traditional start of the flat season, so I see the racing authorities have done their best to make make as many races clash as possible. Good luck!
EDIT – To view the trading result of this race, click here
Betfair extend cross matching
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on March 26th, 2010
Betfair today announced that they had extended their cross matching algorithm to include a trail on in-running horse racing markets. Full announcement is detailed below: -
Improved bet matching algorithm trial on today’s in-running markets at Carlisle and Sedgefield
For the win markets on today’s cards at Carlisle and Sedgefield we will be improving our bet-matching algorithm to include cross-selection matching (‘cross-matching’). Cross-matching will only be activated after the markets are turned in-play. Please note that this is just a trial for these two meetings today.
Cross-matching was introduced on most sports during 2008 and has had a significant, positive impact on liquidity. It has meant that a customer’s bet is more likely to be matched than it would have been without cross-matching. When a bet request cannot be matched by an opposing bet on the same selection, cross-matching will attempt to match the bet request with unmatched liquidity on the remaining selections in the market. Importantly, cross-matching incorporates ‘best execution’ meaning that whenever the algorithm can match you at a better price than you requested then it will do so, resulting in you getting the best possible price.
The potential for non-runners which may require the application of Reduction Factors has prevented us from introducing cross-matching on horseracing to date. For pre-play markets Reduction Factors remain a hurdle. However, Reduction Factors are not applied to bets matched in-play.
We don’t expect customers to notice any material difference in the way the markets operate today. We will assess the results of today’s trial and should a further trial be undertaken or if we seek to apply cross-matching to in-play horseracing markets on a more permanent basis, we will announce that in advance.
Even odder
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on March 22nd, 2010
Thanks for all the people that emailed in about the Chievo vs Catania match. Many different views and opinions on this match. Also thanks to my Italian friends that got in contact to talk about this particular game.
No surprise that the match ended up 1-1 as strongly predicted by the market. 95% of all the money on the match was traded on the draw which is pretty much unheard of in a soccer match. There is vigorous discussion on the forum about this match so I’m not going to try and repeat or summarise that here. Just glad I didn’t lay the draw on this one!

Very odd
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on March 20th, 2010
Not often I talk about Italian football but this one can’t go by without comment.
Chievo vs. Catania
Cheivo are 3.15 to win this match, nothing unusual there. But the really unusual thing this that the draw is priced at odds on. You don’t see that very often, in fact, you never see it. Draw’s occur fairly randomly and the odds for the draw is one of the easiest things to predict. I’ve never seen fit to predict a draw at odds on, as there is virtually no scenario where you think that it could possibly be value to back at this price. Neither could you say that backing 1-1 as the correct score is value at 2.5, yet both the draw and 1-1 are coming in for spectacular support in this match. Make your own mind up as to what is happening here. Let’s just say that the pricing of this match is highly unusual.

Cheltenham day three
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on March 19th, 2010
That’s more like it! Today was easily the best day of the week so far, but not without it’s cock ups.
In the first race I was pushing for a decent total, but successfully went in-play, again, when I forgot to SP my final orders in the market, Doh! I had some frantic sorting out to do, but escaped. It was entirely my fault and I felt a bit of a wally. Things got better from there though and I had easily my best day of the week so far and a better day than last year. I also managed to get my biggest race of the week and the biggest turnover, so things are building nicely for today.
The feature race yesterday looked to be a good dry run for today. The markets look fairly similar and hopefully they will trade in a similar manner but whether that happens is another thing. I don’t think Cheltenham has been easy this year, but it’s been far from a disappointment.
My foray onto Betdaq continued again yesterday on the early races and it was a bit of a eureka moment when I managed to beat my Betfair total in the early race. While overall matched bet volume is lower on Betdaq, that seems to help in these markets. I think it’s the Goldilocks effect, not too much, not too little, just about right. There is so much money on Betfair that the fill rate, a key trading component, is very long and you end up taking a lot of risk. If the market is too thin, a common occurrence on Betdaq, then your exit becomes a problem. What you need is volume, but not too much and a decent fill rate. If you can’t get on with the overflowing Betfair markets then give Betdaq a go as that seem particulary conducive to trading at Cheltenham.
I’m really looking forward to the Gold Cup today. Let’s hope if performs from the trading perspective as well as a racing spectacle. There is some good daily analysis going on in the forum that you should check out if you are interested.
Good luck whatever you are doing!
Europa League
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on March 18th, 2010
More fun planned this evening with an infinite range of permutations available on each match. But the two English matches do look the most interesting.
Fulham are 3-1 down, but a home goal would create a massive difference to that score line and you get the feeling anything is possible with Fulham. I wouldn’t bet against Fulham pulling it off this evening. The match is priced for 2.6 goals with a slight advantage to the home team. I think that’s too low given the scenarios available.
A team I would be tempted to bet against is Liverpool. OK they thumped Portsmouth the other day, but their confidence is fragile and I don’t know many teams that wouldn’t fancy having a go at them at the moment. A slip up in defence tonight could shred their nerves to the limit or an edgy start and the crowd will get no doubt pass their feelings to the players. Defeat for Benitez could spell the beginning of the end. Liverpool are at quite a short price to defeat Lille and are priced for 2.8 goals with a 1.50 goal advantage. While they should win, I am sure Lille will look to catch them on the break and change the entire complexion of the tie. I don’t think it will take much to do that so I’ll be looking for an upset.
If you are new to football trading, try trading before off. This will give you some risk free cash to splurge in play!
Cheltenham day two
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on March 18th, 2010
Well I don’t think I will reach last years peak after another tougher than average day. I think I have too much ground to make up now in the remaining days. But it’s still going to be a good week, just not as good as it could have been! You can’t win them all.
The difference between yesterday and the Tuesday was that I really struggled to get any traction in the markets. By traction I mean you need to get a few decent orders through before you can really let rip and that rarely happened yesterday. I beat my best result from Tuesday so I am still moving up nicely to getting a really big individual race total, but my strike rate on the non Cheltenham cards was miserable. I often don’t do the interim races but having achieved a clean sweep on Tuesday I felt confident I could do the same yesterday, I was wrong.
Huntingdon was my complete nemesis yesterday and I only managed to win on one race. A truly dreadful result and quite rare to be honest. I don’t know why it didn’t perform but I will have a look this morning and try and understand why. It will make me cautious today for sure. I think today could be a little tricky, we have two cards standing out all on their own and that’s not helpful. But the actual races look quite well defined from a trading perspective, so I hope I can dig out a few decent results.
There was a huge positive out of yesterday. Back in the office and behind multiple monitors with Betdaq’s “We matched £21m” ringing in my ears, I gave the Cheltenham markets a really good bash on Betdaq and they worked a dream! Where the Betfair markets were stuffed with cash and hardly moving with low fill rates, the Betdaq markets were much more conducive to lower risk trading and my orders were getting taken comfortably and the profits fololowed. As there are no transaction or premium charge the figures look pretty good when you put them next to the Betfair figures. I strongly suggest you give it a try as you may find it more suitable than the tougher Betfair markets. You can run both Betdaq and Betfair versions at the same time if you wish.
As always, good luck whatever you are doing.
Cheltenham day one
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on March 17th, 2010
Well that was interesting to say the least. Half an hour before the first race of the day my internet connection suddenly goes down. Up till that point it was a carefully planned day, but with that, a chaotic period ensued. The internet going wasn’t a major problem as I have back up plans. I have a laptop with mobile broadband, just in case. But I also have back up locations I can switch to. The chaos was simply that I went from a comfortable environment to an uncomfortable one and I only had minutes to do it!
The day was fine overall but it took a little while for me to get into my stride and that meant I fluffed the first race and didn’t get a decent result out of it. But on the day I had a clean sweep on all races including the lesser cards. I got nothing stunning out of the day, depending on your definition of stunning, so I failed to match last year. But given the circumstances, I am pretty pleased. My best individual result I’ve posted below. Even that wasn’t without drama, as the total would have been bigger if I had exited correctly. As it was, I managed to go inplay on that and dropped a little on the total.
Got a mailer from Betdaq last night and they reckoned they matched over £21m yesterday. When I return to my usual workplace today, I’ll be sure to give them a decent stab. I only had two screens to work from yesterday so I didn’t get the opportunity! Today includes seven races, so that will be interesting. But the first race doesn’t look like an opportunity.
Best of luck whatever you are doing, hope you have a good one!

Cheltenham
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on March 15th, 2010
Well it’s here again, but what does it hold in store?
To be honest I have no idea and I try my best not to set any expectations ahead of an event, I just try do my best. It’s nice to have a few clues as to how you are going to trade something, but these big events come around so infrequently you only really know how it ‘s going to behave when you are actually in the thick of it. I think you are much better off focusing on doing a good job at the time rather than trying to out think it.
Last years was blinding though and I smashed my best ever total for a week, something I haven’t seen since. I think I will dine out on the memory of last year for some time! If you remember my post from last year, I had a bit of a cock up on day one when I busted my exposure limit on the account I was using. No risk of that this year as I already phoned Betfair to whack it up to some ridiculous limit. After that stalled start last year, the rest of the week was a breeze.
In hindsight though, I think me and market just fell into the right place last year. I say that because I had some sticky points during the rest of the year. Royal Ascot was below expectations and it sort of showed me that I can’t going in all guns blazing unless the market is willing to respond. Prior years at Cheltenham have been up and down. 2008 was plagued with bad weather and that ruined things big time. 2007 was fairly comfortable but I wasn’t adventurous enough. This year I have a few new tricks up my sleeve, so it will be interesting to see if I can perform well. One thing I am not going to do is set myself a target of what I achieved last year. I need everything to fall into place for that to happen and I don’t think that’s a realistic expectation.
I’ve had a good preparation in the build up to this week. I was having a rough time at the start of the month but have settled down now and my strike rate has started to climb. I peaked at the end of last week when I managed to get a really nice run of 49 consecutives winners. I had a chilled weekend with a party on Saturday night and the kids staying with my brother in law overnight. We all went out for lunch at a posh restaurant on Sunday, were hopelessly pampered and then we all watched a film in the afternoon before pottering around the garden. I feel really chilled and in the perfect mindset for a good week. Let’s hope it delivers. Good luck whatever you are doing!!!
Broke it like Beckham
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on March 15th, 2010

It was sad to see Beckham break down in that match last night. The good news for England fans is that it doesn’t seem to have affected the odds on England winning the world cup. Though at 7.00 these seem pretty short I think!
I really felt Beckham’s pain last night because I have suffered the same injury, I hope his doesn’t have the impact it had on me. I used to be very sporty and where ever I went I always had a pair of trainers packed in my bag. I managed to pretty much “run the world” and completed hundreds of long distance races and became a reasonable runner. I could run a half marathon in the 80′s.
One day my running career came to an abrupt end. Pushing off from the floor to ‘bust a move’ while dancing with the kids, my achilles went. Not being a sporting superstar, I couldn’t fly to Sweden the next day to get it repaired. Despite trying to get a full recovery, it never healed effectively and my achilles is now so tight and it stops me from doing all those sports I used to love. Running is completely out of the question.
I really miss being able to compete in sport and its a very tough on the psychology when you want to do things, but just can’t. Let’s hope this isn’t the end to Beckham’s career, it would be a sad way to end it.
The birth of a strategy
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on March 13th, 2010
I’m always on the lookout for something new, preferably complimentary, to what I already do. But the path to a new strategies always starts with low expectations and its often a bumpy path. I think it’s probably the same for people starting out. In fact the first part, low expectations, is probably essential.
I recently headed off again down the path of blind alleys but on this occasion the blind alley turned out to be a new path and the results are shown below. The reason for putting this up is to give you some encouragement to try something new, but also to be warn you about how you do it.
The top image is the ‘nice’ one. When trying out this strategy I went in low with, £10, then £20 stakes and you can see by the end of Feb it had produced £250 in profits. The second graph tells the ‘true’ story however and the fate that often befalls new strategies or starters in a market.
The second graph plots the day to day totals. You can see it got off to a good start so I raised stakes and immediately ran into trouble. In hindsight I should have kept stakes at the same level to see if it was luck that was producing the results or some real underlying reason. In short, I got ahead of myself. Week two was a mare as you can see and it forced my hand. I chopped and changed my original strategy, a typically stupid error. As I exited the week, I went back to square one and started again and the market responded by giving me a clean bill of health going forward. With that decided, I could again increase stakes gradually until I find the tolerable staking limit for this strategy. I knew all this before, but for some reason I got carried away when I got off to a good start. It was a useful reminder though, which is why I am posting it up for everybody to see.
The summary is: -
If you try something, give it time to work through. Second, don’t raise stakes too quickly if you get off to a good start, it could be luck. Third, while it may take some time, always make sure you increase your stakes, even slowly. This will allow you to eventually reach bigger numbers in a safe and controlled manner, without the emotional baggage that comes with it!

Madness and wisdom
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on March 12th, 2010
Are the racing markets becoming more or less volatile?
I can answer that with a definite YES. Yes they are becoming more and less volatile. Let me explain.
A few years ago I could pop an order in the market and wait for it to get filled. Now, if I go into a weaker than average race, like many this week, that doesn’t happen in the same manner anymore. If I get my staking wrong, the market takes one look at my order and runs away from it. I can almost sense the panic in the market when my order sits there. On a macro basis the market is jumpier, more volatile, than it used to be. It is the madness of crowds, people reacting too much to a short term situation. However, that shouldn’t stop you from trading effectively, you may just have to change your tack a little. Like everything on the exchanges if you spot something or suffer due to something, you can simply invert it. Exchanges markets are beautiful, if temperamental, beasts.
Longer term the markets are getting more efficient at pricing risk. Each year that passes, it gets ever so slightly more efficient. We have also noticed that the long term volatility in the markets is narrowing slightly. This would appear to be a reflection on the wisdom of crowds.
So there you have it, the markets are more volatile, but less. This appears to reflect the dual, or should I say duel, madness and wisdom of this particular crowd. When you look at it from a broad perspective, wisdom is winning.
Backhim?
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on March 10th, 2010
2-3 is an interesting score line for Mr Beckham to bring to Old Trafford. I thought Beckham was anonymous in the first match. I am sure he will want to do better in this leg. Two away goals is a killer for AC Milan and therefore Man U are at very short prices to qualify. Milan need a clear two goal win to stand any chance so they must score.
The market is pricing in just short of three goals with a .75 goal advantage to Man Utd. Similar to yesterdays Arsenal match. Would be a surprise to see a similar score line! I sense a tentative start by Man U who will wait to pick a hole in the Milan defence and try and catch them on the break. It’s Milan who have to make things happen!
Real Madrid are priced to comfortably over turn Lyon in their match. Priced at 3.20 goals with a 2.20 advantage. They only have one goal to overcome, but a Lyon away goal would really throw the cat among the pigeons. I think both matches show a lack of clear cut opportunties so I fancy making a little money before the off and picking some outside chances in both.
Return of the hulk
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on March 9th, 2010
I like this stage of the champions league. Something has to happen for a team to go through.
Arsenal are priced to beat Porto but there are many permutations available which mean that both sides have a big incentive to score. The market has been pretty accurate as a reflection of that. It is pricing in just under three goals with nearly a goal advantage to Arsenal. Usually you would expect these to be tight contests, but an early goal would create a significant incentive for another goal hence the pricing.
Arsenal have not turned around a first leg deficit in Europe since November 1 1978 but do have the advantage of the away goal. Wenger confirmed the importance of the away goal in a recent interview. ““Having the away goal is massive,” he said. “When you don’t have it you think that if we concede we are nearly dead.” On the flip side Porto don’t have a great record at the Emirates.
Porto have been patchy since the first leg. They thrashed second-place Braga 5-1 but then lost to Sporting Lisbon 3-0 and only salvaged 2-2 draw at lowly Olhanense thanks to an injury time goal. Should be a good game, Arsenal can’t afford to sit back and Porto need that away goal. My biggest ever win on champions league match came courtesy of Porto at Man Utd, so I’ll have above average interest in the game.
Classic set up
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on March 7th, 2010
A wonderful set up occurred in the FA Cup clash between Reading and Aston Villa this afternoon. Against the odds, Reading took a 2-0 lead againsts premiership outfit Villa. The teams went off for half time in distinctly different moods. A break in play is the perfect opportunity for teams to turn things around and that Villa did. Rejuvenated from their half time talk it wasn’t look before Villa were suddenly 3-2 in the lead. You could have backed them in the teens only to green up at 1.29 after a few minutes. Doesn’t happen that often, usually it’s just a case of looking for the one goal, but three in ten minutes left any half time Villa backers with a stunning 10 fold return on their stake.
The interest in this set up was multiple. Non favourite leading, half time break, incentive to score, plenty of time left. Normally you are only looking for a goal, but now and again things just work much better than expected!

Greener grass?
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on March 6th, 2010
For some time I’ve watched the Aussie horse racing and admired that they seem to often do a better job than the UK. Then of course the weather, it’s just so much better down under. It’s enough to tempt me to head out to Aus during the winter and work from there for a little while. I had thought about doing that this year, but circumstances dictated otherwise.
This week has been a little different and three meetings have been lost to the rain. As I write this one of the commentators is sheltering from hail the size of golf balls at Flemington in what he describes as ‘The worst storm in Flemington for 30 years’. Probably an exageration in the heat of the moment, but it just goes to show you that nowhere is immune to acts of god.
EDIT – He wasn’t wrong, the meeting has been abandoned!
Here is a video of the chaos: -
http://video.au.msn.com/watch/video/freak-storm-ends-flemington-race-day/x2eqbzb

February
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on March 4th, 2010
Spring is in the air and not a moment too soon! Those bleak winters months are almost behind us, the garden is starting to bud and the birds are munching through the feed faster than I can replace it. March brings us Cheltenham and that is always interesting, to say the least.
It’s difficult to accurately compare last month against previous years as I wasn’t really around much last February. But overall I was above my previous best Feb by around 11%. Generally, I was pretty happy with things.
Feel is difficult to compare sometimes. The markets always shift and slide around and I think that if your change your view on something, then others will probably change also. It’s like being in a crowd of people who want to get a good view, one person goes on tip toes so you have to do the same, before long everybody is standing on tip toes and no one has a better view. One important part of your activity in any market is to try and find new ways to get a better view. Each time I do a talk I’m always amending it to bring it up to date. Some things that worked really well only a couple of years ago, are less effective now or have changed in some way, so it’s a constant process keeping things up to date.
I’ve started March just fine and I put in a good day yesterday, but the whole month really hinges around Cheltenham and I’ll only really know how that’s going well when I am in the thick of it. Last year was good, the prior year tough, thanks to the weather. The weeks before and after Cheltenham are often no great shakes, so the whole of the month really does hinge on that one week. Its basically all up in the air until we arrive at the start line.
Lets hope Betfair have put their recent system issues firmly in the past. I know its the fear of many, that Betfair goes down during such an important meeting. Good luck for March!

At the adverts
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on March 4th, 2010
Hmm, since Monday At The Races has not been showing extended coverage behind the red button. This is a real pain as the coverage from ATR is sketchy at the best of times, hence the title of this post. If they have decided to stop this coverage then ATR will be useless for a lot of people. As most people who are involved in racing know, getting a good look at a horse before it runs is a damn good idea. If all we see are car insurance adverts for the build up to the race the value of this channel is significantly decreased.
I hope this move is temporary, I’ve emailed ATR but had no response as yet. If you don’t like this I suggest you do the same as well.
Day of the drifter
Posted by Peter Webb in Bet Angel on March 2nd, 2010
Sounds like a documentary of some sort, but this was the predominant feature in Monday’s horse racing markets.
In our etenral quest for knowledge, we run strategies in the back ground all the time. These can be to test new ideas or simply to explore certain aspects in the market. One of the strategies we often run is to test how ‘swingy’ the markets are. It’s simple, every minute from four minutes out we pop an order in the market to back at the current price and then green / red up at post time. This tells us how much markets are moving around during this period and how stable they are and the general direction they travel. On it’s own it doesn’t say much but over time, using this and other strategies, we have accumulated a vast amount of knowledge on how the markets act and, more importantly, why.
Monday was an unusual day, which generated this post. On Monday the markets just wanted to drift, drift, drift. The favourites were loveless. As long as your opening position was a lay you would almost certainly have made money . It was especially unusual in that, of the 19 races we covered, only three showed a profit. Two of those profits were less than £1 and one was a reasonable profit, two broke even and the rest were clear losers.
If you were actively trading these races you would have probably picked up this trend early on and cut losses. But our objective was simply to measure activity. I did OK myself, quite good for a Monday, but having been on the right side of most of these drifts I got too aggressive eventually and dropped somewhere around £200 from my potential profit on the day just because I over traded, grrr.
What does this day mean for the next trading session? Nothing unfortunately, the clock gets reset to zero. So don’t start laying everything after reading this post, please. The next session could be as equally unusual in the other direction.


