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horseplay
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oh sorry i meant to say even if you really want that 5th or 6th horse that will bring you over 50 , 50 shot of your stake dont take it.

the odds of probability are on your side that you have 4 horses or more to give you a 2 /1 shot of doubling your money
Zenyatta
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rogerlisa wrote: I have more questions but would be happy if I knew a simple trade that I could do to generate £300 per day. Does anyone have any suggestions and answers please.
dont lay outsiders its the shorter priced favourites (price below 4.00) you want to be laying
rogerlisa
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I suppose you knew it all when you started did you! For your information I am married own my own successful business (to which I sometimes work 13 hours a day and still play golf)and have studied this trading lark for over 6 months. What is wrong in changing a lifestyle I didnt lose the money overnight it took six months. I dont want your secrets just some guidance like I am sure you did! Thats why forums exist. I suggest you dont judge everyone in the same way and stop thinking you are a genius who has struggled to learn something. Try working over sixty hours a week for 23 years before making snide comments.
rogerlisa
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To all those that replied to my post. For the experienced ones who are sick of newbies wanting advice(not secrets) - I have run a successful business for 20 years outside sometimes in temperatures you have not experienced and hours you have never heard of for more than 13 unsociable hours a day.My body now says stop so hence looking for something else, pardon me if I wanted some advise and knowledge and what sort of earnings could be expected after time! Dont need a porsche got a new maserati already, dont need a house got one in the country, dont need a tart got a wife and three grown kids, already play golf when have time. So genuine thanks to those who replied with helpful advise and to the others dont read newbies posts if you want to stay up your own arses and look down at mere mortals who want to learn. Of course you didnt search everywhere to get advise when you first started did you!
Alpha322
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Euler wrote:I don't think we should forget the main reason that people want to trade or deploy higher level strategies. It's much better than just backing or laying. OK it can be frustrating and it's very different from traditional betting, but it's much better.

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100% agree i have never looked at a bookmakers for tyhe last 3 yeras would never go anywhere near them since finding BA and Bf. No one can tell 100% of an outcome but you can estimate a price movement by using tools
Alpha322
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rogerlisa wrote:To all those that replied to my post. For the experienced ones who are sick of newbies wanting advice(not secrets) - I have run a successful business for 20 years outside sometimes in temperatures you have not experienced and hours you have never heard of for more than 13 unsociable hours a day.My body now says stop so hence looking for something else, pardon me if I wanted some advise and knowledge and what sort of earnings could be expected after time! Dont need a porsche got a new maserati already, dont need a house got one in the country, dont need a tart got a wife and three grown kids, already play golf when have time. So genuine thanks to those who replied with helpful advise and to the others dont read newbies posts if you want to stay up your own arses and look down at mere mortals who want to learn. Of course you didnt search everywhere to get advise when you first started did you!
I understand now why people dont get help on here because when they do they feel its a put down rather than good advice, thats why seasoned forum members stay silent, cant say i blame them now
rogerlisa
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Please will everyone understand I do not come from a betting back ground (didnt even know what a lay bet was until someone who wanted to buy my maserati told me about it and sports trading)and not get hung up on me asking how to earn £300 per day. I simply was trying to get at - is it really possible without to much risk. I also asked two more questions to which nobody gave me any clues - the most important of which was why was this £30k on as a lay at 1.01 was it to try and minipulate the market as it was there for a while then disappeared? I am not simply betting that was one thing that I tried on horses in the early days and learnt the hard way not to do this so am now playing the movements in the market but why was this £30k there?
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mugsgame
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600 is the new 300
followthatcamel
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Hi Roger, welcome to the forum.

One of my theories is that it may just be people "parking" their betfair bank overnight to reduce their balance if their account is hacked. (Not entirely convinced on this as if your account is hacked then they could just cancel your orders and carry on, but it may help your case if you can prove "parking" your balance was a regular process).

Some traders also leave some of their bank at "unlikely" prices to catch the odd error made by a "bot" or someone with "fat fingers" trading a horse at higher odds that put an order in at the wrong price. If the traders order gets matched, thay can trade out at the real market price being offered for that selection.

The traders money at these prices will be removed from the market when it goes in play or when they cancel their orders or make them "Take SP"

Some may convert a % of their orders to "Keep" for when the race goes in play and look to be at the front of the queue should they wish to "lay the field" at 1.01 which is a strategy that some adopt.

This strategy has a risk of your order not getting matched unless you are at the front of the money queues when more than one horse trades at 1.01

No doubt there may well be other reasons for money sitting at 1.01 but I'm not sure what they are or that they have any relevance or impact to whats going on in the market pre race.

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Doug
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ok ok , you only want to earn £300 a day , WHY!!!!!!!!! you have your own business and drive a maserati FFS , why would you want to sit at a computer all day , surely if your business pays for a maserati and and a golf membership why would you need to be a trader , This has got to be a wind up , Mugs are you winding evereyone up again ??? it sounds like one of your wind up threads. :D
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mugsgame
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legendz wrote:Mugs are you winding evereyone up again ??? it sounds like one of your wind up threads. :D

Me? :shock:
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I want, I need, I deserve
by mugsgame » Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:33 am

Hello,
I want to create a bot that I just turn on in the morning, go out and play golf all day and when I get home withdraw the money it was won. I have spent an afternoon trading and found it incredibly boring and a waste of my time.

My target is £1000 per day
How much do i need to put into my account to achieve this?

I have no idea about trading/gambling but I watched a video on you tube so I have a fair idea what I am doing.

Can somebody please tell me how to do this? I paid good money for this software. The minium I deserve is someone to give me some help. Even if it has taken you years to gain the skills you have.

Please hurry, I want to book a nice holiday soon.
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Yes mugs it sounds a lot like this thread from March :lol:
smartypants59
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you guys make me laugh!!! i nearly fell of the chair with laughter!!!
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mugsgame
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The funny thing is there is at least a post similar to that once a week. :D
legendz
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The "Win whatever the result handicap" sponsored by Bet Angel probably says alot , I cant blame them for advertising their product but i suspect for every 10 or 20 punters who come along and use the software take the advice and put in the work , there is a 100 who buy the trial punt away there last £100 , then take to the forum to moan about how bad life is and how Bet Angel hasn't changed it for them.
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