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Postby Ferru123 » Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:18 pm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/jobs ... lawed.html

What is this country coming to?

Next they'll make it illegal to state in a job ad that experience is required for a position, in case it discriminates against the young!

And you won't be able to specify that people applying for customer service roles are enthusiastic, in case you discriminate against people suffering from depression!

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Postby Euler » Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:33 pm

Given how little a degree means nowadays, I don't think it will make much difference. I must admit I have recruited many people and I'd rank experiance well above any qualification. Knowing what to do and actually being able to do are two different things in my experiance.

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Postby Ferru123 » Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:40 pm

Euler wrote:Given how little a degree means nowadays, I don't think it will make much difference.

To a point, I'd agree. Having a 2:2 degree in Basketball Studies from the University of West Ruralshire doesn't prove much about your abilities IMHO. However, there may be technical positions where having relevant qualifications is important, but where employers are told that asking about those qualifications amounts to age discrimination. Also, having a first from a top university is relevant to what you'd be able to offer an organisation IMHO, and it would be a shame if things came to the point where it was illegal for employers to take that kind of thing into account...

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Postby Euler » Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:02 pm

If you want an insight into how degrees are viewed by senior managers. I was at a company once where I was pressing them on recruitment policy. The upshot was if you recruited a gradute from a decent establishment you could point to their education as one reason why you made the right choice. If you appoint somebody without that background then you are suddenly in the firing line.

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Postby Ferru123 » Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:10 pm

That's a shame, as there may be people with great qualities (who aren't necessarily intellectually oriented) who get passed over. I can't say that kind of risk averse, back watching behaviour surprises me though...

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Postby Euler » Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:19 pm

A lot of corporations are built on continuity. That suits some people but never really sat very well with me.

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Postby superfrank » Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:45 pm

continuity is a very polite word for it!, but i know what you mean.

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Postby rubysglory » Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:05 pm

Euler wrote:I'd rank experiance well above any qualification. Knowing what to do and actually being able to do are two different things in my experiance.


Well said Euler. IMO the experienced 'uneducated' person quite often has more to offer an organisation that the 'educated' no it all with little or no life experience and even less work ethic. Just an observation and no doubt bound to offend someone Oh well ! :lol:

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Postby superfrank » Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:35 pm

the catch 22 for a young person with a relatively poor education (often through no fault of their own due to social circumstances/problems) is getting some experience.

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Postby PeterLe » Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:25 pm

Although I do agree that experience is important there is a counter argument..
I have recruited people in the past too and if I was conducting an interview and comparing two candidates, if one of them had a 1st Class i would know instantly that that person had the "ability" to learnt at a certain level whereas the other candidate may be an unknown?

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