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Postby gazuty » Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:01 pm

Base rate is 6.25% right?

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Postby rubysglory » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:33 pm

Hi Gazuty. Base Rate between 2.60% and 6.50% on Australian and NZ racing less any discounts due as normal. Furthermore, from what I understand the Turnover Charge is applied as a Levy and is not subject to discounts that may otherwise be payable.

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Postby jmcole » Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:34 am

The CEO of Betfair Australasia was interviewed on Radio Sports National last week, discussing Betfair in Australia 5 months on from the High Court Decision.
Interview can be heard at

http://www.rsn.net.au/downloads

To listen, select the podcast for Thursday 23rd August under Racing Ahead.

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Postby Euler » Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:50 am

Interesting interview, thanks.

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Postby mugsgame » Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:24 am

A couple of things jumped out.
1) When he mentions how "loyal" Betfairs' customers are. What he was really saying is "we have a monopoly with our product and we can charge what we like. There are some morons even paying us 60% back of their winnings hahaha"

2) He mentions the dedicated department that "liases" with the larger customers.
That would be the Premium Charge department then.

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Postby rubysglory » Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:28 am

I found it interesting how those customers referred to as being highly 'price sensitive' was exampled as the type of customers that have been lost to not only Betfair but the whole racing industry. To me this is just another example of how racing administrators globally have generally little understanding of the inverse concept of commission and turnover.

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Postby Euler » Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:15 am

Been busy tracking traded volumes on the Aussie markets since the changes. Have to say, I've seen very little difference in the markets. Not sure what that means?

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Postby mbeebee » Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:49 am

mugsgame wrote:A couple of things jumped out.
1) When he mentions how "loyal" Betfairs' customers are. What he was really saying is "we have a monopoly with our product and we can charge what we like. There are some morons even paying us 60% back of their winnings hahaha"

2) He mentions the dedicated department that "liases" with the larger customers.
That would be the Premium Charge department then.

absolutely first class observation ...

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Postby rubysglory » Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:53 am

Euler wrote:Been busy tracking traded volumes on the Aussie markets since the changes. Have to say, I've seen very little difference in the markets. Not sure what that means?


Unable to provide actual data but the weaker class midweek races appear somewhat illiquid compared to that which existed prior to the changes. Although historically markets are generally weaker at this time of year as we enter Spring and there is a lot of unknown form with horses returning from a long winter break, I feel that although the volumes are only marginally down the 'packets' of money wagered is significantly smaller.

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