Repeated Green-Ups

[jaipal2004]

Hi,

I have a green up rule that greens out if the profit is >0 and then another one that kicks in later without this condition.

I am getting the two running - Is there a way I can not get the second one to run if that first has? I'm seeing occasions where I'm actually up a fair bit and then the second rule causes the amount to reduce.

I always assumed green up was a once-only affair - how do I ensure if successive green ups happen it's only if they give a higher return or lower loss?

thanks

[Dallas]

Just set the time of the green with profit one to expire a second or two before your second is armed -

Or you can set a signal with your profit > green up

Then on your timed green up add a 'Signal Set Condition' and specify its NOT set with a value

[jaipal2004]

Thanks Dallas

What about the second query about forcing green up to occur if there's a higher profit / reduced loss available?

Cheers

[Dallas]

Thanks Dallas

What about the second query about forcing green up to occur if there's a higher profit / reduced loss available?

Cheers

Once one of them has green up the amount wont change unless you trigger further bets

[jaipal2004]

@Dallas - one thing I'm struggling with is I've seen some instances where my losses are not being greened up - the logs are sometimes next to useless

With the following bot:

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I'm also getting instances where I get the error message about being unable to cancel bets..... doesn't seem clear why:

17/09/2017 15:45:45: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
17/09/2017 15:45:46: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
17/09/2017 15:45:46: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
17/09/2017 15:45:48: [G_Auto] : £ 2.00 Lay bet placed on Jim Rockford at 4.6. Fully matched at 4.3. Ref: 102855326037 ( Offsetting by 20 ticks with greening. )
17/09/2017 15:45:51: [G_Auto] : £ 1.30 Back bet placed on Jim Rockford at 6.6. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 102855332729
17/09/2017 15:46:06: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: Greened1 = 1
17/09/2017 15:46:06: [G_Auto] : Cancelling bets 102855332729
17/09/2017 15:46:07: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: Greened1 = 1
17/09/2017 15:46:08: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: Greened1 = 1
17/09/2017 15:46:08: [G_Auto] : Placed closure bet with greening on Jim Rockford by Backing 1.72 at 5
17/09/2017 15:46:09: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: Greened1 = 1
17/09/2017 15:46:09: [G_Auto] : Cancelling bets 102855377224
17/09/2017 15:46:09: [G_Auto] : Placed closure bet with greening on Jim Rockford by Backing 1.76 at 4.9
17/09/2017 15:46:10: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: Greened1 = 1
17/09/2017 15:46:10: [G_Auto] : An error occurred while cancelling bets: The entire order has been rejected.
17/09/2017 15:46:10: [G_Auto] : Cancelling bets 102855379719
17/09/2017 15:46:10: [G_Auto] : Placed closure bet with greening on Jim Rockford by Backing 1.91 at 4.5
17/09/2017 15:46:11: [G_Auto] : Placed closure bet with greening on Jim Rockford by Backing 1.91 at 4.5
17/09/2017 15:46:12: [G_Auto] : Placed closure bet with greening on Jim Rockford by Backing 1.91 at 4.5
17/09/2017 15:46:52: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended

[Dallas]

The is log showing you have one or more green up rules triggering too close together

[jaipal2004]

Thanks Dallas - what is the 'recommended' setting based on your experience?

[Dallas]

Thanks Dallas - what is the 'recommended' setting based on your experience?

With amounts below £2 you should be using at least a 3sec re-arm

[jaipal2004]

Thanks Dallas - what is the 'recommended' setting based on your experience?

With amounts below £2 you should be using at least a 3sec re-arm

Why would stake size make a difference to re-arm?

Thanks!

[Dallas]

Thanks Dallas - what is the 'recommended' setting based on your experience?

With amounts below £2 you should be using at least a 3sec re-arm

Why would stake size make a difference to re-arm?

Thanks!

Submitting bets below the BF min £2 requires it to be done using two bets, so the in-play delay increases the time it takes for these bets to reach the market

[jaipal2004]

Hi Dallas,

still can't make sense of logs on today's race below:

19/09/2017 14:25:18: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
19/09/2017 14:25:18: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
19/09/2017 14:25:18: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
19/09/2017 14:25:21: [G_Auto] : £ 2.00 Lay bet placed on Hazapour at 3.8. Fully matched at 3.8. Ref: 103011913924 ( Offsetting by 20 ticks with greening. )
19/09/2017 14:25:23: [G_Auto] : £ 1.36 Back bet placed on Hazapour at 5.6. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 103011918042
19/09/2017 14:27:11: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended


The rules all show as triggering at the same time (when they clearly shouldn't) and my loss didn't green up. I have also selected my signals are written to logs yet that's not happening either. I think the logs are flawed potentially because they should show everything going on.

My key worry is the lack of loss greening in this scenario - can't make sense of why

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[jaipal2004]

Puzzled why logs no longer show what they did - signal setting and cancelling / greening of bets

Also - is the race length condition robust? Could that be 'failing' ?

Look forward to your help

[Dallas]

All the conditions and options within automation work perfectly fine, as i have said to you before when a market suspends all rules that have not triggered will show as 'triggered' at the time of suspension, therefore everything in your automation showing as last triggered 14:28:12 did not trigger.

[jaipal2004]

Hi,

thanks for responding.

What would be causing this loss not to green-up:

19/09/2017 15:25:55: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
19/09/2017 15:25:56: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
19/09/2017 15:25:56: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
19/09/2017 15:25:58: [G_Auto] : £ 2.00 Lay bet placed on Kynren at 3.1. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 103018952932 ( Offsetting by 30 ticks with greening. )
19/09/2017 15:26:00: [G_Auto] : £ 1.19 Back bet placed on Kynren at 5.2. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 103018957256
19/09/2017 15:27:34: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended


15:25:56 the race went in-in play (1m) and that would've caused the 6 - 16f stop rule to trigger assuming that the previous (non-stop) didn't at about 15:27:02 - therefore plenty of time for the loss to be greened up. However, it didn't trigger and I'm at a loss as to why - it has the following conditions:

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The previous rule sets the signal Greened2 to '1' and that didn't run so this should've.

Might just be me

Thanks agian

[jaipal2004]

Hi again....

same thing happened on the 17:10 (1m4f handicap):

19/09/2017 17:11:02: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
19/09/2017 17:11:03: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
19/09/2017 17:11:03: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
19/09/2017 17:11:05: [G_Auto] : £ 2.00 Lay bet placed on Get Out of Jail at 8. £ 1 matched at 8 £ 1 unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 103030297274 ( Offsetting by 30 ticks with greening. )
19/09/2017 17:11:06: [G_Auto] : £ 0.80 Back bet placed on Get Out of Jail at 20. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 103030298981
19/09/2017 17:13:56: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended

Had a loss of £14.00 and no greening - same bot with rules as above .... why isn't the greening triggering?

The rule that should kick in is obviously for 12f:

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Help (hopefully for the final time) would be appreciated!

thanks all