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Postby mugsgame » Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:32 pm

Ferru123 wrote:
mugsgame wrote:Comparing the 8.15 at Wolves on 16th Dec 2011 to the same race 12 months later is pointless unless the odds of the runners are similar.

Granted, but don't these things even themselves out over a large number of races?

That's certainly what Gutuami's stats suggest. The average minimum BSP for January to July (for easy comparison, as that's as far as the 2012 stats extend) is as follows:

2009 3.53
2010 3.47
2011 3.49
2012 3.45

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Jeff I potentially trade 95% of the races, I cannot back up what I am saying with stats. But thats how I see it. It's really obvious to me and judging from various comments by respected pros I am pretty confident about what I am saying.

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Postby Ferru123 » Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:40 pm

I'm not saying you're wrong or that you're imagining things. :) The interesting question is this: let's say, for argument's sake, that you're right and the stats are also right. How can that be?

One possibility is that much of the volume that's reported for this year is 'phantom volume', caused by the self-matching activities of people/entities whose accounts are set up to allow their self-matching to count towards the official volume figure.

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mugsgame wrote:Jeff I potentially trade 95% of the races, I cannot back up what I am saying with stats. But thats how I see it. It's really obvious to me and judging from various comments by respected pros I am pretty confident about what I am saying.

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Postby Akindwurd » Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:03 am

Is self-matching possible on BETDAQ? If not, the structural volumes matched there could be a proxy reality check, at least for some markets. In fact, it could still be a useful proxy even if self-matching is possible, provided that the manipulators don't bother to exploit it.

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Postby mcfc1981 » Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:22 pm

less racing this year meaning higher trading per race maybe.
someone will have the stats if the volume is higher per race on a 2 card afternoon or a 3 card afternoon.
im sure this year there must be more 2 cards then previous years

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Postby gutuami » Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:33 pm

try this one and tell us if you find anything

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Postby HThandicaper » Mon Aug 27, 2012 4:38 pm

Hi Guys,

If you check the BSP daily reports you can quiet easily calculate the volumes :ugeek:

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Postby mugsgame » Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:02 pm

F*** volumes! They are almost irrelevant in Racing.
I have traded 10% of the volume in a race once. It doesn't mean anything. (BTW I won less than the cost of taking the family yo McD's.

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Postby macin » Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:13 pm

mugsgame wrote:F*** volumes! They are almost irrelevant in Racing.
I have traded 10% of the volume in a race once. It doesn't mean anything. (BTW I won less than the cost of taking the family yo McD's.


So true! Markets felt good in the first hour today and then, started drying out, to almost untradeable by the end, even thou matched volume figure did not change much... That's just my point of view

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Postby chuck536 » Thu Aug 30, 2012 5:52 pm

Is volume always this herendous in the last week of evening racing each year?? feels absolutely dier tonight...

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Postby mugsgame » Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:02 pm

When evening racing ends it feels like a huge relief to me.

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