Betfair Cricket trading : Pitchsiding? I presume it's a thing? Is it?

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johnsheppard
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Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:54 pm

Hello there,

I see many people talk about courtsiding at tennis. Its not something I'm into or plan to go into but, I guess I find it interesting. What I don't see is many people talking about the same techniques in cricket...I would guess it would be prevalent in twenty twenty matches?

Of what I have read of courtsiding, its pretty much frowned upon by the tennis authorities and they go to great lengths to thwart it. I would imagine the cricket authorities would have a harder time of it due to the size of the playing field.

I also wonder what kind of technologies these peoples use to avoid detection. It provides mild amusement plotting out ways to do it. I think I'd put bluetooth sensors in my shoes through a mobile phone to my own web api or some such nutcase thing. Left tap means a 6. Right tap means he's out...just as long as I don't have to go the toilet....that'd result in a few bad trades...

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Fri Jan 31, 2020 2:59 am

Courtsiders/pitchsiders aplenty on cricket and they regularly get absolutely hammered, like the ball is in the air & the prices have changed and presumed its going to be caught…& its dropped & sometimes over the boundary for 6666666666, lbw appeal finger goes up but then its overruled after a review. Then on other occasions the foot is over the line by the bowler & not only is it not out its free hit hit which goes for 6666666666666

Also authorities sometimes have this notion courtsiders are involved in fixing games which is silly so not only do they get removed sometimes they get arrested.

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Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:23 am

obviously they will get caught out occasionally by misjudging, video review or whatever, but from watching the markets seems to me that it must be a lot more lucrative for cricket than tennis as turnovers are huge and more stakes seem to be left after boundaries wickets etc
how they are set up exactly and if they have to disguise i dont know but there must be people at the big games
you can tell also some games are on bbc radio which is always just a second or so behind live for any event and its the same for cricket

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Emmson wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 2:59 am
Courtsiders/pitchsiders aplenty on cricket and they regularly get absolutely hammered, like the ball is in the air & the prices have changed and presumed its going to be caught…& its dropped & sometimes over the boundary for 6666666666, lbw appeal finger goes up but then its overruled after a review. Then on other occasions the foot is over the line by the bowler & not only is it not out its free hit hit which goes for 6666666666666
Well I suppose to me that's gambling, not trading. I am definitely no authority, but I would think the way to do it would be trading normally using your best wits, with the speed advantage applied. Or is it that competitive that people HAVE to start gambling on an outcome before it occurs?

Emmson wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 2:59 am
Also authorities sometimes have this notion courtsiders are involved in fixing games which is silly so not only do they get removed sometimes they get arrested.
I read a book about tennis courtsiding... 'Game Set Cash' ...I gather that's true.... Seemed like a game of cat and mouse. Not real appealing. Or maybe it is for some... I wonder if it was any better/easier with cricket.

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rik wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:23 am
obviously they will get caught out occasionally by misjudging, video review or whatever, but from watching the markets seems to me that it must be a lot more lucrative for cricket than tennis as turnovers are huge and more stakes seem to be left after boundaries wickets etc
how they are set up exactly and if they have to disguise i dont know but there must be people at the big games
you can tell also some games are on bbc radio which is always just a second or so behind live for any event and its the same for cricket
I sort of trying to focus on horses, but I've spent a little time looking at T20 Australia games (never had time to really looked at tennis yet). I had a look at cricapi, and many of the score API websites/services. Most of them lag by a good 10/15 seconds. It depends on your strategy I guess, but I am inclined to think the only way you'd get an applicable advantage is being pitchside.

The price movements are quiet large when various events occur.

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Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:22 pm

The ACU are fairly knowledgable about pitchsiding and tend to tolerate it. Wasn’t the case a few years ago

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