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PeterLe
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The Greyhound market is worth looking for anyone using automation...
Ive automated this using a variation of a file Dallas uploaded. Thank you Dallas (although Id rather not say which one as its easy to reproduce :)

Ive only been running this for a couple of weeks as a trial, but early indications are it is positive when compared with the actual SP results..
Anyway, Ive often wondered if anyone is having good results with modified version of Dallas files. So touch wood this is an example.
Produced circa £370 in the last couple of weeks, yesterday was terrible, but its bounced back today. 100% Guardian Automation

Early days, big swings; and I dont know whether this will fly yet.. but optimistic (just ported it to the Horse racing market too for testing)..

Anyway feedback for Dallas - appreciate all the examples you upload
Regards
Peter
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eightbo
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Memphis what are you doing these days still L2B or?
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i'm still winning that's what i'm doing
eightbo
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Between signing autographs and slaying groupies you must not have much time to trade
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PeterLe wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:03 pm
The Greyhound market is worth looking for anyone using automation...
Ive automated this using a variation of a file Dallas uploaded. Thank you Dallas (although Id rather not say which one as its easy to reproduce :)

Ive only been running this for a couple of weeks as a trial, but early indications are it is positive when compared with the actual SP results..
Anyway, Ive often wondered if anyone is having good results with modified version of Dallas files. So touch wood this is an example.
Produced circa £370 in the last couple of weeks, yesterday was terrible, but its bounced back today. 100% Guardian Automation

Early days, big swings; and I dont know whether this will fly yet.. but optimistic (just ported it to the Horse racing market too for testing)..

Anyway feedback for Dallas - appreciate all the examples you upload
Regards
Peter
Good to hear from you Peter

Sorry I never spotted this earlier, but I'm glad to hear one of them has helped in some way or at least sparked an idea off for you and hopefully it will continue to pan out and can be added to your portfolio
Oscar
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To PeterLe,

I too have adopted and adapted one of Dallas's bots and it is surprisingly (for me), looking encouraging.
I've made a few tweeks and so far have been getting around 70% green, although using very small stakes, so
the profit can't be appreciated.
I decided to look at the dogs when the horses were off sick the other month. I just need the confidence and maybe a few more adjustments before I decide to increase my stakes.
With the profits you have been able to achieve, I doubt we are using the same technique. I would be interested to know what kind of stakes you are using. I'm using £1 at the moment.

Jackie
PeterLe
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Oscar wrote:
Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:45 am
To PeterLe,

I too have adopted and adapted one of Dallas's bots and it is surprisingly (for me), looking encouraging.
I've made a few tweeks and so far have been getting around 70% green, although using very small stakes, so
the profit can't be appreciated.
I decided to look at the dogs when the horses were off sick the other month. I just need the confidence and maybe a few more adjustments before I decide to increase my stakes.
With the profits you have been able to achieve, I doubt we are using the same technique. I would be interested to know what kind of stakes you are using. I'm using £1 at the moment.

Jackie
Hi Jackie,
I wanted to take advantage of SP so i use £11 liability on the lay side (I just wanted to make sure I met the minimum £10 stake)..and i started off with the same target of £11 on the back bets too. My goal is to look at the profits long term, so if I have a losing day, Im not too worried about that. If you look at the graph, you will see that I had a big losing day a few days ago and having looked at the data, I can see no reason for it. Equally Ive had some good days too.

One thing I would suggest you doing is read the blog by Peter (Cant remember the title ,but it refers to whether you have just been lucky or unlucky, a recent post).. to check whether you have just been luck and caught one of the 'good days' or weeks etc..BEFORE increasing stakes
You probably know how to do this, but if it helps others..you would download the SP data CSV files (Google Betfair SP Prices), then check your results against the actual overall results..
Eg Say your system only laid selections between 2-4, how would you have done if you had laid everything within those parameters..and compare how you actually did using your own strategy.
Once you have a a few weeks data (ie a couple of thousand races under your belt), you will start to see a trend of if you were lucky, or you were better.
Ive just started to use the same system on the pre race Horses too..to early to say if it is working yet, but in profit
Both hugely scaleable, which is what is most interesting to me.
Good Luck!
Regards
Peter
PS I once had a GH system that ran for nearly four months and looked like it was going to fly long term, but it didnt, in the end it looked like a letter 'n', so Im not counting my chickens just yet :D

PS It would be good to see some of the equity curves from the more established GH traders for inspiration :)

Edit : Here is the Blog Post I mentioned above..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5fyLqVCqjE
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Oscar
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Hi PeterLe,
Thanks for your reply and advice. I'll take a look later.
As an unestablished GH trader I can't show you any of My equity curves :lol:
All the best,
Jackie
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Rest In Peace Bettingshop TV [*] :cry:
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eightbo
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New player sometimes buffer for a split sec where the old one didn't — anyone else?
eightbo
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Can't recall 1 AUS market go off before post yet but only traded a few hundred markets. Are they more responsible with their start times vs. UK or is it just a coincidence?
PeterLe
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PeterLe wrote:
Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:10 am
Oscar wrote:
Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:45 am
To PeterLe,

I too have adopted and adapted one of Dallas's bots and it is surprisingly (for me), looking encouraging.
I've made a few tweeks and so far have been getting around 70% green, although using very small stakes, so
the profit can't be appreciated.
I decided to look at the dogs when the horses were off sick the other month. I just need the confidence and maybe a few more adjustments before I decide to increase my stakes.
With the profits you have been able to achieve, I doubt we are using the same technique. I would be interested to know what kind of stakes you are using. I'm using £1 at the moment.

Jackie
Hi Jackie,
I wanted to take advantage of SP so i use £11 liability on the lay side (I just wanted to make sure I met the minimum £10 stake)..and i started off with the same target of £11 on the back bets too. My goal is to look at the profits long term, so if I have a losing day, Im not too worried about that. If you look at the graph, you will see that I had a big losing day a few days ago and having looked at the data, I can see no reason for it. Equally Ive had some good days too.

One thing I would suggest you doing is read the blog by Peter (Cant remember the title ,but it refers to whether you have just been lucky or unlucky, a recent post).. to check whether you have just been luck and caught one of the 'good days' or weeks etc..BEFORE increasing stakes
You probably know how to do this, but if it helps others..you would download the SP data CSV files (Google Betfair SP Prices), then check your results against the actual overall results..
Eg Say your system only laid selections between 2-4, how would you have done if you had laid everything within those parameters..and compare how you actually did using your own strategy.
Once you have a a few weeks data (ie a couple of thousand races under your belt), you will start to see a trend of if you were lucky, or you were better.
Ive just started to use the same system on the pre race Horses too..to early to say if it is working yet, but in profit
Both hugely scaleable, which is what is most interesting to me.
Good Luck!
Regards
Peter
PS I once had a GH system that ran for nearly four months and looked like it was going to fly long term, but it didnt, in the end it looked like a letter 'n', so Im not counting my chickens just yet :D

PS It would be good to see some of the equity curves from the more established GH traders for inspiration :)

Edit : Here is the Blog Post I mentioned above..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5fyLqVCqjE
Jackie,
Just to add to this post. ..and as Ive just spent the last couple of hours checking my results...I thought it may be useful to see a real example of how to test if you have just been lucky or not.
The graph below is a pre race strategy for Horses, its only been running from the 20th April, but its just to illustrate a point.
By checking the all actual results from the SP data. Had I bet on every single selection that matched a certain criteria, the profit and loss would have been as per graph one. By applying my own extra criteria (ie the secret sauce as its been called on here), then graph 2 are the actual results.\
So in essence, I know that Ive not been lucky as the general trend has been down whilst mine has been up. So Ill continue with this for a while before increasing the stakes. Not sure where this will take me, but thats part of the fun :D
Hope that helps.
Regards
Peter
PS Its interesting if you check out the top chart, as there were points on the graph that had you started your strategy just before the up trend, you may have thought that it was a winning strategy, whereas it would have been a false dawn :o
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eightbo
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Nottingham - OR 500m
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Emmson
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21.08 Romford has been suspended before 21.00...............don't tell me it has started about 10 mins early. :cry:

Can't be weather as the next 2 have not been suspended. I'm exposed here on the fave :evil:


EDIT thankfully now unsuspended, took about 4 mins
Oscar
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To PeterLe,

Hi, sorry for the delay in responding and many thanks for your ideas, graphs and info.
I've had a reluctant break from "tinkering" with trading and now I'm just trying to catch up again.
Looking forward to a fun challenge.
Best
Jackie
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