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mancbrady
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Hi guys

Can you help with this?

I have read that you can stop a automation from firing again if you have reached a target profit or loss by closing trade with greening but I need a bit of further help.

If I have closed the trade when the target is reached but more opportunities arise later,is there a way my bot can re-start the original rule again or will the target amount it has met just stop it from rearming?
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Dallas
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The same rule cant be restarted as it will still have a P/L condition thats been met, you could copy it and save another (without the P/L cond) then use it as a servant.
That will allow you to restart with a press of a key
mancbrady
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Dallas wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:58 pm
The same rule cant be restarted as it will still have a P/L condition thats been met, you could copy it and save another (without the P/L cond) then use it as a servant.
That will allow you to restart with a press of a key
I’ve not had a look at a servent yet as I’m pretty new and it’s a bit above my level at the moment. The next thing I want to look at is signals and understand how to use those as I have a few ideas.

I want to use this strategy fully automated so I wouldn’t be able to press a button anyway and use a servant
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mancbrady wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:03 pm
Dallas wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:58 pm
The same rule cant be restarted as it will still have a P/L condition thats been met, you could copy it and save another (without the P/L cond) then use it as a servant.
That will allow you to restart with a press of a key
I’ve not had a look at a servent yet as I’m pretty new and it’s a bit above my level at the moment. The next thing I want to look at is signals and understand how to use those as I have a few ideas.

I want to use this strategy fully automated so I wouldn’t be able to press a button anyway and use a servant
There is a few threads that might help you get started with signals if you have not already seen them
viewtopic.php?f=37&t=11941
viewtopic.php?f=43&t=11943

I thought you wanted to restart it if you seen another oppertunity?
mancbrady
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Dallas wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:19 pm
mancbrady wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:03 pm
Dallas wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:58 pm
The same rule cant be restarted as it will still have a P/L condition thats been met, you could copy it and save another (without the P/L cond) then use it as a servant.
That will allow you to restart with a press of a key
I’ve not had a look at a servent yet as I’m pretty new and it’s a bit above my level at the moment. The next thing I want to look at is signals and understand how to use those as I have a few ideas.

I want to use this strategy fully automated so I wouldn’t be able to press a button anyway and use a servant
There is a few threads that might help you get started with signals if you have not already seen them
viewtopic.php?f=37&t=11941
viewtopic.php?f=43&t=11943

I thought you wanted to restart it if you seen another oppertunity?

I should have explained it more clearly as I was being vague,I want it to automatically start at a possible opportunity.

I am trying to automate make a market but if the price moves away and I go into a loss on a selection I want it to put a stop in that by greening up, then I would like to make a market again as I assume I may get it right if the price is heading in a certain direction and have the rule start again.
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OK i see what you mean now, the better way would be to add a green up rule if your loss exceeds -£X

That will close that particular trade but still allow the main rule to continue to trigger if its conditions are met,

Have a look at this servant (it can be used as full automation) it closes at -£2 then at -£4 again at -£6 etc effectivly allowing aprrox £2 loos per trade but with the main rule being allowed to continue triggering
viewtopic.php?f=58&t=15232
mancbrady
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Thanks Dallas, I’ll give that a go.

Thanks
mancbrady
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Dallas wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:10 pm
OK i see what you mean now, the better way would be to add a green up rule if your loss exceeds -£X

That will close that particular trade but still allow the main rule to continue to trigger if its conditions are met,

Have a look at this servant (it can be used as full automation) it closes at -£2 then at -£4 again at -£6 etc effectivly allowing aprrox £2 loos per trade but with the main rule being allowed to continue triggering
viewtopic.php?f=58&t=15232

I incorporated this rule into my make a market greyhound bot and I did green up any selection that went into a minus but that did close that selections trade and didnt allow any more make marker trades on that selection. The main rule was still running as other selections were finding the gaps in the market but when they went into red it would again green up and stop anymore trades on those selections.

I’ll have a play around more with some rules and see what I can do to fix this issue if I can
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mancbrady wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:50 am
Dallas wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:10 pm
OK i see what you mean now, the better way would be to add a green up rule if your loss exceeds -£X

That will close that particular trade but still allow the main rule to continue to trigger if its conditions are met,

Have a look at this servant (it can be used as full automation) it closes at -£2 then at -£4 again at -£6 etc effectivly allowing aprrox £2 loos per trade but with the main rule being allowed to continue triggering
viewtopic.php?f=58&t=15232

I incorporated this rule into my make a market greyhound bot and I did green up any selection that went into a minus but that did close that selections trade and didnt allow any more make marker trades on that selection. The main rule was still running as other selections were finding the gaps in the market but when they went into red it would again green up and stop anymore trades on those selections.

I’ll have a play around more with some rules and see what I can do to fix this issue if I can
If its the 'Make market' bot from the shared files section or copied from that then the suggestion above wont work, that particular rule was made purposely so that once a seletion was greened up (any amount) no further bets could be placed on that selection.

It was a safety feature so you could intervene and stop on a single selection while still allowing the rule to continue to trigger on other selections.
mancbrady
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Dallas wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 10:00 am
mancbrady wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:50 am
Dallas wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:10 pm
OK i see what you mean now, the better way would be to add a green up rule if your loss exceeds -£X

That will close that particular trade but still allow the main rule to continue to trigger if its conditions are met,

Have a look at this servant (it can be used as full automation) it closes at -£2 then at -£4 again at -£6 etc effectivly allowing aprrox £2 loos per trade but with the main rule being allowed to continue triggering
viewtopic.php?f=58&t=15232

I incorporated this rule into my make a market greyhound bot and I did green up any selection that went into a minus but that did close that selections trade and didnt allow any more make marker trades on that selection. The main rule was still running as other selections were finding the gaps in the market but when they went into red it would again green up and stop anymore trades on those selections.

I’ll have a play around more with some rules and see what I can do to fix this issue if I can
If its the 'Make market' bot from the shared files section or copied from that then the suggestion above wont work, that particular rule was made purposely so that once a seletion was greened up (any amount) no further bets could be placed on that selection.

It was a safety feature so you could intervene and stop on a single selection while still allowing the rule to continue to trigger on other selections.

Hi Dallas

Yeah it was a copied file with my own amendments to it, I e got some ideas anyway so I will play around with it.

The safety rule you pointed me to is good so I will keep that and use it as my safety net on other trades.
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mancbrady wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 10:05 am
Dallas wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 10:00 am
mancbrady wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:50 am



I incorporated this rule into my make a market greyhound bot and I did green up any selection that went into a minus but that did close that selections trade and didnt allow any more make marker trades on that selection. The main rule was still running as other selections were finding the gaps in the market but when they went into red it would again green up and stop anymore trades on those selections.

I’ll have a play around more with some rules and see what I can do to fix this issue if I can
If its the 'Make market' bot from the shared files section or copied from that then the suggestion above wont work, that particular rule was made purposely so that once a seletion was greened up (any amount) no further bets could be placed on that selection.

It was a safety feature so you could intervene and stop on a single selection while still allowing the rule to continue to trigger on other selections.

Hi Dallas

Yeah it was a copied file with my own amendments to it, I e got some ideas anyway so I will play around with it.

The safety rule you pointed me to is good so I will keep that and use it as my safety net on other trades.
Without going in and checking the file im almost certain that if you just use the rule 'close trade on selection' (without greening) and do the same for the profit condition then it would work.
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