Reoccurring (Repeat) tick offset function

[Dallas]

Just checking about the normal tick offset tool within betangel. Is there an option on the tool to tell it to repeat the process a certain number of times or would this have to be done through guardian via an automation file?

In other words, is the tick offset function only a one time back to lay then you have to place the starting bet again?

Thanks for answering all these questions...

It would need to be done through guardians automation or a servant

[Justin53]

Hi everyone,

I have downloaded betangel professional a few days ago and have been attempting to produce the simple automation file that I have been talking about in this thread (repeat tick offset)

So far I have had no luck. I have told betangel to place a back bet at a fixed odd and then applied "offset with greening" to the automation file.

But when I arm the file to a market instead of placing a back bet it places a lay bet, as if it is trying to green up before the back bet has even entered the market.

I haven't even got to the part where once both trades have been matched to repeat for a second and third time. First I just want to get one back 2 lay trade to work...

Any suggestions as to where I am going wrong?

Thanks Justin

[Dallas]

But when I arm the file to a market instead of placing a back bet it places a lay bet, as if it is trying to green up before the back bet has even entered the market.

Any suggestions as to where I am going wrong?

Thanks Justin

Its likely placing both bets at the same time and getting they lay matched instantly, enabling the fill/kill option will delay the offset until after the opening bet is filled
viewtopic.php?f=47&t=11817

[eatyourgreens]

Hi Justin,
I'm a newbie too, this is my first post, but I think what you need to do is -

first make sure you are placing a "back bet"
then, on the parameters tab, choose your offset, .........if you dont tick the "fill or kill" box, guardian will place both a back and lay at the same time. If you do tick the "fill or kill" box , it will only place the lay bet after the back bet has been matched...... the batches box will place "batches" to the lay side as they are filled on the backside, i.e back bet £20, batches 4, will place £5 on the lay side everytime £5 is matched on the back side ...........

I hope I'm right,
and hope that helps,

Have a nice day!

[Justin53]

Thank you both for clearing that up. Makes sense.

Could you please enlighten me on exactly what the fill or kill seconds delay refers to.

Is it the amount of delay after the back bet is matched before the lay bet is placed?

Or is it something to do with kill the initial back bet if it is not matched by a certain timeframe?

Cheers Justin

[Justin53]

Ah just realised there was a link from Dallas...

So the fill and kill is the second option I gave. It kills the back bet within a certain timeframe if not matched.

Cheers getting the gist now...

[Justin53]

Now I am up to the "recurring" tick offset part and am once again stuck.

So I went to the "General" tab within the automation rules editor and I decided to allow the 'place a back bet' rule to trigger 2 times with a wait time of 5 seconds between rearming.

I was hoping that this would give me the repeating tick offset I was looking for. Instead what happened is that once the first back bet was matched it did place the tick offset on the lay side 1 tick below, but instead of waiting for this tick offset lay bet to be matched before rearming, it just waited the 5 seconds and placed the next back bet, which of course got instantly matched again.

Had I had the repeat trigger on say 20 times it would have placed 20 back bets every 5 seconds before even hedging out of any of the lay bets.

Obviously what I would like the automation file to do is to complete the whole one tick offset (Back and Lay) before the next rearming is triggered.

Any help with this would be much appreciated.

Thanks Justin.

[Dallas]

Now I am up to the "recurring" tick offset part and am once again stuck.

So I went to the "General" tab within the automation rules editor and I decided to allow the 'place a back bet' rule to trigger 2 times with a wait time of 5 seconds between rearming.

I was hoping that this would give me the repeating tick offset I was looking for. Instead what happened is that once the first back bet was matched it did place the tick offset on the lay side 1 tick below, but instead of waiting for this tick offset lay bet to be matched before rearming, it just waited the 5 seconds and placed the next back bet, which of course got instantly matched again.

Had I had the repeat trigger on say 20 times it would have placed 20 back bets every 5 seconds before even hedging out of any of the lay bets.

Obviously what I would like the automation file to do is to complete the whole one tick offset (Back and Lay) before the next rearming is triggered.

Any help with this would be much appreciated.

Thanks Justin.

You just need to tell the automation what exactly it is your tring to do (ie, it doesnt know you want to wait till both bets are matched so will trigger another as soon as its rearmed)

There are a large list of conditions you can use
https://www.betangel.com/user-guide/con ... 3D&mw=MzIw

The one you need is
Number of unmatched bets condition
Setting this to equal 0 will mean the rule can only trigger while there are no unmatched bets in the market

[Kafkaesque]

Now I am up to the "recurring" tick offset part and am once again stuck.

So I went to the "General" tab within the automation rules editor and I decided to allow the 'place a back bet' rule to trigger 2 times with a wait time of 5 seconds between rearming.

I was hoping that this would give me the repeating tick offset I was looking for. Instead what happened is that once the first back bet was matched it did place the tick offset on the lay side 1 tick below, but instead of waiting for this tick offset lay bet to be matched before rearming, it just waited the 5 seconds and placed the next back bet, which of course got instantly matched again.

Had I had the repeat trigger on say 20 times it would have placed 20 back bets every 5 seconds before even hedging out of any of the lay bets.

Obviously what I would like the automation file to do is to complete the whole one tick offset (Back and Lay) before the next rearming is triggered.

Any help with this would be much appreciated.

Thanks Justin.

You just need to tell the automation what exactly it is your tring to do (ie, it doesnt know you want to wait till both bets are matched so will trigger another as soon as its rearmed)

There are a large list of conditions you can use
https://www.betangel.com/user-guide/con ... 3D&mw=MzIw

The one you need is
Number of unmatched bets condition
Setting this to equal 0 will mean the rule can only trigger while there are no unmatched bets in the market

Just to add to this, then as is implied by Dallas' response, yes setting the trigger to repeat 20 times will result in 20 bets being placed. However, do note that once you set the unmatched bets condition as suggested, then you do need the trigger repeat to be a very high number, because it'll also count as a repeat trigger each time, the rule looks to trigger but doesn't because there's already an unmatched bet on.

[Justin53]

Cheers Dallas,

But let's say you had 3 back bet rules in the file. So one at 2.34, one at 2.36 and one at 2.38 and they all had the one tick offset with greening in the parameters.

Would this mean that for the first back bet to re-trigger I would have to have the unmatched bets condition set at 2, seeing as there are two back bets above it?

Thank you for all this help. It is really making this experience much simpler...

[Justin53]

Actually, I just realised you can specify between lay bets and back bets, which clears that all up...

[Justin53]

What I meant to say is that if you use the "unmatched bet amounts" condition you can specify between the amount of $$ in the lay or the back. So that might be easier than using the "unmatched bets condition" where you would have to factor in how many lay bets and back bets would still be in the market according to all the different rules you have set up.

[Yves]

Is it possible that an automation rule repeats it over and over again?
Example: when i make a rule to lay at the price of 2.0 during the match and green out if profitable. Is it possible to repeat this bet at the same conditions during the match after i greened out the first bet.
Example: team starts with odds 3.0 and scores 1-0. Quote drops to 1.9. My automation rule places a bet under because odds is lower then 2.0. After 10 minutes the score is 1-1 and i automatically green out. Several minutes later 2-1 and again the odds drop under 2.0. How to create the rule that in this scenario a bet will be place again?
Thanks for helping.

[Dallas]

Is it possible that an automation rule repeats it over and over again?
Example: when i make a rule to lay at the price of 2.0 during the match and green out if profitable. Is it possible to repeat this bet at the same conditions during the match after i greened out the first bet.
Example: team starts with odds 3.0 and scores 1-0. Quote drops to 1.9. My automation rule places a bet under because odds is lower then 2.0. After 10 minutes the score is 1-1 and i automatically green out. Several minutes later 2-1 and again the odds drop under 2.0. How to create the rule that in this scenario a bet will be place again?
Thanks for helping.

Yes, you could arm the rule to trigger multiple times then just add some conditions to meet your criteria, for example you could place an offset bet when it triggers well outside the price just so there is a unmatched bet in the market (untill you green up and it gets cancelled)
You'd then just need to add the following two conditions
Number of unmatched bets on selection is equal to 0
Fill/kill Bet Time is greater than 10 seconnds (or anytime longer than the in-play delay)

Or you could do it with signals and a signal changed condition

[Yves]

Thank you very much for you help!!
I appriciate it that you took some the time to help me.
Cheers