Re Soccer Mystic/Match Ratings Etc

[AMS01]

Hi,

So I've had a good look around the software and ready to try a practice run tonight just have some fun.

However I watch videos on the Bet Angel YouTube site and it makes reference to "Soccer Mystic" "Match Ratings (predicting scores & time of goals etc) but I can't seem to find any of this within Bet Angel... Am I missing something?

I'm a fairly experienced trader and trade Correct Scores, First Half Goals, Overs Markets, Match Odds etc. and feel this Ratings Section/Soccer Mystic could be very useful to me.

Cheers

[Dallas]

It doesn't predict the time of goals but will show you how the odds will move following a goal and as time decays. There are a few examples on how you can use this here
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=12116

[AMS01]

It doesn't predict the time of goals but will show you how the odds will move following a goal and as time decays. There are a few examples on how you can use this here
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=12116

Thanks for that Dallas will read more into that later, more interested in seeing how the software performs tonight... Am getting excited lol,

So there is no Ratings page which shows match result predictions and how many goals might be scored in the game etc?

Cheers

[Dallas]

It doesn't predict the time of goals but will show you how the odds will move following a goal and as time decays. There are a few examples on how you can use this here
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=12116

Thanks for that Dallas will read more into that later, more interested in seeing how the software performs tonight... Am getting excited lol,

So there is no Ratings page which shows match result predictions and how many goals might be scored in the game etc?

Cheers

Not within the software, Peter used to post some of the main fixtures in a dedicated thread but hasn't had time to keep on top of it recently
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=9588&start=470

[makkad]

Can anyone explain the current vs predicted odds summary page please?

How can this be used in trading?

Chelsea vs bayern munich.

Why not back chelsea at current (4.4) on the assumption that the price will move to the predicted (4.17) ?

[Archery1969]

Can anyone explain the current vs predicted odds summary page please?

How can this be used in trading?

Chelsea vs bayern munich.

Why not back chelsea at current (4.4) on the assumption that the price will move to the predicted (4.17) ?

It doesnt mean it will move to 4.17, only if it was a 100% book, which it wont be as market makers need to make a profit above 100%.

[makkad]

Can anyone explain the current vs predicted odds summary page please?

How can this be used in trading?

Chelsea vs bayern munich.

Why not back chelsea at current (4.4) on the assumption that the price will move to the predicted (4.17) ?

It doesnt mean it will move to 4.17, only if it was a 100% book, which it wont be as market makers need to make a profit above 100%.

Thanks, Jeez, I have sooo much to learn

[firlandsfarm]

Can anyone explain the current vs predicted odds summary page please?
...
Why not back chelsea at current (4.4) on the assumption that the price will move to the predicted (4.17) ?

It doesnt mean it will move to 4.17, only if it was a 100% book, which it wont be as market makers need to make a profit above 100%.

Are you sure Archery? If the book is overround then the price would drift to make the book 100%.

[Archery1969]

Can anyone explain the current vs predicted odds summary page please?
...
Why not back chelsea at current (4.4) on the assumption that the price will move to the predicted (4.17) ?

It doesnt mean it will move to 4.17, only if it was a 100% book, which it wont be as market makers need to make a profit above 100%.

Are you sure Archery? If the book is overround then the price would drift to make the book 100%.

Peter explained those soccer mystique settings / forecast in a video awhile back the 4.17 price example from above means if it was a 100% book. It doesnt mean the price on Chelsea will shorten from 4.4 to 4.17 as the other team or the draw could shorten or drift making 100% book in an ideal world. I have tried it many times and to some extent its misleading. Sometimes it may work but more often than not it doesnt.

How do you know Chelsea will go from 4.4 to 4.17, why can those odds stay at 4.4 and the odds on Bayern shorten to make up the 0.9% overround. Or why cant chelsea and bayern odds stay the same the odds on the draw drift to make up the 0.9% ? This is the problem for newcomers, they see that and put their house on those odds moving as per soccer mystique and then lose causing them grief. Also, using LTD and soccer mystique says the odds will move this way by this amount of either team scores is way off from my experience. If it was that easy then someone or company would just stick £1,00,000 on chelsea at 4.4 and make a nice profit when they hit 4.17. I dont think it works like that in the real sports trading world etc.

[firlandsfarm]

Peter explained those soccer mystique settings / forecast in a video awhile back the 4.17 price example from above means if it was a 100% book. It doesnt mean the price on Chelsea will shorten from 4.4 to 4.17 as the other team or the draw could shorten or drift making 100% book in an ideal world.

OK, I think I can see what you are say now, thanks for clarifying. So the 4.17 is not what the price would be if the overround was taken out of the current price (4.40) but what a formula/statistics has predicted Chelsea would (should?) be based on a 100% book. The 4.17 and the 4.40 are mutually exclusive numbers, 4.17 is what the stats throw up and 4.40 is what the market is throwing up. Yes?

[aidenrn810]

Related to Soccer Mystic, for correct scores, is their a way of automatically extracting the Current IP% and Predicted IP% for each score in to another spreadsheet. Manually cut and pasting doesn't seem to work for me. Or even better via a Guardian automated rule review these 2 values for each correct score and then add certain criteria to as necessary?

Thanks

[Archery1969]

Peter explained those soccer mystique settings / forecast in a video awhile back the 4.17 price example from above means if it was a 100% book. It doesnt mean the price on Chelsea will shorten from 4.4 to 4.17 as the other team or the draw could shorten or drift making 100% book in an ideal world.

OK, I think I can see what you are say now, thanks for clarifying. So the 4.17 is not what the price would be if the overround was taken out of the current price (4.40) but what a formula/statistics has predicted Chelsea would (should?) be based on a 100% book. The 4.17 and the 4.40 are mutually exclusive numbers, 4.17 is what the stats throw up and 4.40 is what the market is throwing up. Yes?

Might need to check with Dallas and/or Peter. I think there was a plan to re-code soccer mystique to make it more accurate.