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Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:59 pm

Naffman wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 12:28 pm
mcfc1981 wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 12:24 pm
Post a screenshot of lifetime P/L from the premium charge portal....that will kill the doubters
But winners hedge with bookies so lose with Betfair :P
+1

Worm (rounders) sums it up fairly well. (including later on "women are the rake")

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Derek27
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Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:09 pm

mcfc1981 wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 12:24 pm
Post a screenshot of lifetime P/L from the premium charge portal....that will kill the doubters
I did that a year or two ago, just to prove how easy it is to edit HTML text!

But if people think that Betfair charges 20-60% premium charge just to pretend people are winning that is beyond scepticism. That's sheer paranoia. :)

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Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:22 pm

People seem to believe what they want.

When I held the meet and greet at our offices, on the wall is all the evidence you need to see what I've achieved over the years. Somebody did a write up of the visit and mentioned a letter from Betfair that was also on the wall. He got heavily attacked and called a faker etc. etc.

But he had seen it all and the offices, and yet somehow, it wasn't real. Just crazy.

I think it would great though if Betfair did validate lifetime P&L's because then some would have to explain why they have been posting P&L's and positioning themselves as full-timers, yet their lifetime shows a completely different picture. It would be hilarious.

Never going to happen though, as it would show that Betfair themselves were complicit in promoting and marketing individuals whose track records just don't justify it.

mcfc1981
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Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:37 pm

Always liked the idea of having lifetime P/L next to username on the Betfair forum :lol:

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Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:08 pm

mcfc1981 wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:37 pm
Always liked the idea of having lifetime P/L next to username on the Betfair forum :lol:
...especially when you have an overnight botting disaster and everybody knows how much you lost before you've even got up. :lol:

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Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:14 pm

In my office-working lifetime one of the worst experiences was discovering what my peers earned, especially if it was more than me. Almost as bad was knowing that someone else knew how much I earned, regardless of whether it was more or less than them.

You really are better off not knowing. The resentment just burns you up.

Atho55
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Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:29 pm

How about seeing who subscribe to Bet Angel software instead....

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Derek27
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Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:41 pm

weemac wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:14 pm
In my office-working lifetime one of the worst experiences was discovering what my peers earned, especially if it was more than me. Almost as bad was knowing that someone else knew how much I earned, regardless of whether it was more or less than them.

You really are better off not knowing. The resentment just burns you up.
When I worked in an office I just assumed everybody got paid more than I did. After all, you're not likely to get a pay rise turning up late to work every day. :)

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Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:44 pm

Atho55 wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:29 pm
How about seeing who subscribe to Bet Angel software instead....
...and password access to bank accounts, document vaults and all social media accounts. What do us forum members have to hide? :)

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Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:01 pm

malgilb wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:38 pm
I'm afraid i am starting to get Sceptical about sports trading and what is being claimed by those that apparently make a success of it. I am not the cleverest person in the world but am far from the dumbest. I have viewed all the trading videos once , twice and sometimes many more. I have read the user guide until my eyes hurt and have purchased and downloaded "An Expert Guide". I have tried everything out many, many times. I'm not claiming that there is any dishonesty going on but i cannot see how anybody can predict or work out where the price is going with the way it jumps about so badly. I am not normally a sceptic and would like someone to prove without a doubt that trading on sports can be a way of making money.
Dogma is the enemy of progress. How do you expect to open the door if you do not believe it exists?

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