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ticktake
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Emmson wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:22 pm
All male I assume, why does sports trading not appeal to women? Has this forum ever had any female contributors.
I was shocked!! There were 6/7 females there - half had been dragged by their other half!
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ticktake wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:33 pm
Emmson wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:22 pm
All male I assume, why does sports trading not appeal to women? Has this forum ever had any female contributors.
I was shocked!! There were 6/7 females there - half had been dragged by their other half!
Great to hear that, more participants in the market the better.
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ticktake wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:20 pm
Trader Pat wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:12 pm
Does anybody know how many people attended?
Over a hundred I'd say.
I saw a tweet that said 148 out of the 150 who were expected attended.
Emmson wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:22 pm
All male I assume, why does sports trading not appeal to women? Has this forum ever had any female contributors.
There were a few women in the photos but it looked to be largely white middle aged males.

In general men have more of an interest in finance and money than women so it is no surprise sports trading is dominated by men. There are a few involved though, there is one on Twitter I see from time to time appear in my feed when Peter has liked one of her tweets.
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Trader Pat wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:30 pm
ticktake wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:20 pm
Trader Pat wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:12 pm
Does anybody know how many people attended?
Over a hundred I'd say.
So lets say conservatively there was 100 people there, doesnt give much time for interaction with the triumvirate. That would surely be an issue with this kind of event where there are so many people, very limited opportunity to actually have a proper conversation.

TT you did very well to have an hour long discussion with Mark Iverson, there must have been many people firing question in and wanting to buy him a drink and pick his brain
Probably about 60 stayed for drinks after the talks.

Mark was an absolute Gent. 6 of us were having a general chat and he came over to us and answered all our questions. Similar size groups were chatting to the other two speakers. It was harder to grab Caan, I was expecting to leave about 7, stayed until 9 in order to talk to him. They were there all night talking though. When you weren't talking to them though, the room was full of people with the same passion.
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Emmson wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:22 pm
All male I assume, why does sports trading not appeal to women? Has this forum ever had any female contributors.
Generally risk averse (evolutionary) imo
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ruthlessimon wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:44 pm
Emmson wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:22 pm
All male I assume, why does sports trading not appeal to women? Has this forum ever had any female contributors.
Generally risk averse (evolutionary) imo
:lol: definitely
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ticktake wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:39 pm

Probably about 60 stayed for drinks after the talks.

Mark was an absolute Gent. 6 of us were having a general chat and he came over to us and answered all our questions. Similar size groups were chatting to the other two speakers. It was harder to grab Caan, I was expecting to leave about 7, stayed until 9 in order to talk to him. They were there all night talking though. When you weren't talking to them though, the room was full of people with the same passion.
I like the social aspect of it just wouldnt be willing to spend that much money on it :)
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Pricing of trading time is something I often think about.

If someone is vefiably earning £100/hr, whats an equitable amount to charge, to teach somone(s).

If he earns £200/hr, are the ratios the same ?

if he earns £500 an hr .. etc.

Its my submission, a person earning £200/hr, should expect to be paid a multiple of that .. and v few will.
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It tricky. You can't judge peoples' ability to teach/communicate by how much they earn. In fact the really big earners are sometimes quite socially awkward.

If someone is more advanced than you, speaks 'your' language and understands what's best for you (not just what they do) then if they earn 100 or 500 becomes less important. And let's face it, £100/hr day in day out shows they know enough to get the sort of person who's looking for training up and running. Beyond that you need a mentor, someone who wants to help you, rather than someone doing it for the money.
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:46 pm
In fact the really big earners are sometimes quite socially awkward.
What do you expect?? :D

The core truths of trading, are fundamentally anti-social

1. No sharing
2. Emotions like a robot
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PDC wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:36 pm
ticktake wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:20 pm
Trader Pat wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:12 pm
Does anybody know how many people attended?
Over a hundred I'd say.
I saw a tweet that said 148 out of the 150 who were expected attended.
£150 x 150 = £22,500, a few grand for the venue and you've a decent payday, certainly beats sitting at a desk all Saturday afternoon .
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spreadbetting wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:20 pm
PDC wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:36 pm
ticktake wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:20 pm


Over a hundred I'd say.
I saw a tweet that said 148 out of the 150 who were expected attended.
£150 x 150 = £22,500, a few grand for the venue and you've a decent payday, certainly beats sitting at a desk all Saturday afternoon .
No tax on gambling 8-)
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LinusP wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:30 pm

No tax on gambling 8-)
Just a regular Wednesday morning mugging of 40-60% instead :(
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ruthlessimon wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:18 pm
ShaunWhite wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:46 pm
In fact the really big earners are sometimes quite socially awkward.
What do you expect?? :D

The core truths of trading, are fundamentally anti-social

1. No sharing
2. Emotions like a robot
+1 .. which doesnt do it justice. Great post.
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The pricing of trading time is irrelevant with regards to teaching. The ability to teach, articulate and communicate to others isn't dependent on what you earn per hour. Wanting compensation for missing out on trading time is a different thing all together. And still, any supposed hourly figure could be simply made up.

I think the reasons for doing these types of events isn't and shouldn't be about how much money you can earn from them. I think there's other reasons that play a big part. These can include improving profile/status, networking, social and potential future opportunities with media and other events. One thing can quickly lead to another and it's always good to broaden your horizons and test yourself.
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