Betfair VIP / Hospitality

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3virgul14
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Well guys, you should always consider yourself lucky. At least luckier than me.

So far I paid a large chunk of 6-figure commission to betfair, creating enormous liquidity in different markets and being a high-frequency trader, they need me like hell to keep the exchange alive.

Believe it or not ; never got an email nor a phone call from betfair leave alone any tickets, invitations or calendars :mrgreen:

Only time I was contacted was when I sent the documents for KYC 7 years ago because they couldnt read my birthdate on my passport :roll:

But who gives a feck huh? Guess Peter is right, they want us to become losers in the sportsbook section . Then I imagine the juice would follow eventually :geek:
oscar123
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Betfair used to be good for looking after their clients whether they were winners or losers.I was lucky enough to watch the Grand National courtesy of betfair many years ago and it was great.

Though the betfair hospitality seemed to dry up for everyone around the time that the premium charges came in, nowadays if you want a day out courtesy of betfair you have to win it, or create enough commission to get entered in a draw or something.

Betdaq seem a lot more generous in the sense of looking after their regular clients. If you switch to there and put money through on a regular basis then they seem to be a lot more appreciative of it, even if you're winning.
steven1976
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I guess they became a real business.
Obviously as a company they have gone from strength to strength in terms of profits. It was probably poorly ran thinking they could charge 5% on winnings and be profitable.
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LeTiss
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steven1976 wrote:I guess they became a real business.
Obviously as a company they have gone from strength to strength in terms of profits. It was probably poorly ran thinking they could charge 5% on winnings and be profitable.
Things changed when they floated on LSE in 2010

It was a disaster, as they started caring more about shareholders than they did customers
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Crazyskier
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Archangel wrote:I always felt that if a bookie was offering you hospitality it meant you were a monumental loser
I've enjoyed several Ladbrokes VIP days out over the years. They used to send me a crate of wine at Christmas and I've taken my ex-wife to the cricket at Manchester for the corporate hospitality and also been to the same at the races at Uttoxeter.

I took my son to watch Blues (his team) vs. Arsenal and had front row seats just to the side of the halfway line. Henri scored twice (predictably) and he was sad they lost, though it was a great day out.

Since I've moved most of my staking to Betfair in recent years they only send me the odd match offer etc, so I guess it was tied to me being a 'monumental loser' which was indeed accurate when considering my losses with Laddies over the years. :?
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firlandsfarm
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3virgul14 I've been banned from the Sportsbook! I think the view that they know traders are a captive audience is close to the truth, they have no real competition so where else can traders go but ordinary stakers are different, they can go to the most competitive who will take their bet if backing. When backing I have a preference for bookies because of BOG especially if I want overnight or early morning odds.

I don't think being quoted on the LSE has anything to do with it. When I was employed the best entertainers were the quoted companies, it wasn't about saving costs it was about getting/keeping business. The greater the competition the greater the freebies. Betfair has little competition so little motivation to give freebies.
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gazuty
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Well well well.

Came home today to a delivery. A betfair bathrobe, monogrammed.

Who said betfair don’t send gifts.
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Euler
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They owe me at least a Ferrari based on the commission I've paid, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Naffman
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Aren't Betfair Australia almost like a franchise of Betfair?

Heard of a lot of guys over there pretty much kitted out for winter in Betfair Aus. Clothes...even the socks :lol:

They appreciate their customers, I'm afraid here they don't
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Derek27
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I'd rather just have some of my commission/PC back.
libor88
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Hi,

anybody got some tickets to football or horse racings last few month ? Is still hospotality working ? Thanks

libor
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Euler
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What is this hospitality you speak so fondly of?
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Naffman
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I'm on PC2 and haven't even got a Manager, if I was in Aus. still I'd have at least got some free Betfair boxers
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wearthefoxhat
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Euler wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:13 am
What is this hospitality you speak so fondly of?
You mean you haven't got the Ferrari, as yet...
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ShaunWhite
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