Profit as a Percentage of Turnover

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PeterLe
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Hi
I have just received a report from the Betfair help desk that details my trading over the last year....
I'm looking at setting some new goals this year and one area I want to focus on is profit generated as a percentage of turnover...
My profit is 2.98%...but to be honest I dont know whether this is good, bad or indifferent?? This is mainly automated on the horse racing market where 93.8% of my trading has taken place..
My gut feel is that this is OK? Can someone give me an idea what a good yardstick is in terms of percentages?
regards
Peter
PS My best percentage is on Greyhounds strangely enough at 7.22%..but I just find it so boring to trade...
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Difficult to compare like for like because of different styles. But Peter did post up on the blog about some information that was available: -

http://www.betangel.com/blog_wp/2009/09 ... -turnover/
PeterLe
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Thanks I forgot about that post.
On the face of it then, I should be happy with that. It's true; It's not possible to compare with the percentage Peter is achieving as i am putting much smaller stakes (and fewer) that Peter.
I have tried scaling my bet size, but hit a plateau above a certain point..from there is is a case of diminishing returns...
Thanks for the info...would be keen to hear from others running on auto...(You can PM me if you dont wish to post...Thank you)
Peter
eightbo
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PeterLe wrote:
Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:52 am
Hi
I have just received a report from the Betfair help desk that details my trading over the last year....
I'm looking at setting some new goals this year and one area I want to focus on is profit generated as a percentage of turnover...
My profit is 2.98%...but to be honest I dont know whether this is good, bad or indifferent?? This is mainly automated on the horse racing market where 93.8% of my trading has taken place..
My gut feel is that this is OK? Can someone give me an idea what a good yardstick is in terms of percentages?
regards
Peter
PS My best percentage is on Greyhounds strangely enough at 7.22%..but I just find it so boring to trade...
Almost a decade on now ... any updates? 8-) viewtopic.php?f=37&t=18654&p=185100#p185100
PeterLe
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Well Im still here :D
Very different these days to 2010! I think that anyone who is making a profit these days (even if a small profit) is doing very well!
When I look back now to that period up to about 2012/2013 it was like printing money; not these days sadly!
Regards
Peter
LinusP
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Here is mine with roi = sum(profit) / sum(size_settled):
Screenshot 2019-04-18 at 11.58.20.png
Note that roi is lower this year as I have dramatically increased turnover on pre race and had a terrible Jan/Feb (only started recording data at this level from 2016 sadly)
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eightbo
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Nice one boys.
LinusP wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:00 pm
roi = sum(profit) / sum(size_settled)

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self.size_settled = kwargs.get("sizeSettled")
What's sizeSettled comprised of?
LinusP
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eightbo wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2019 1:38 pm
Nice one boys.
LinusP wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:00 pm
roi = sum(profit) / sum(size_settled)

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self.size_settled = kwargs.get("sizeSettled")
What's sizeSettled comprised of?
The cumulative bet size that was settled as matched or voided under this Item, in the account currency. Available at SIDE groupBy level or lower.
https://docs.developer.betfair.com/disp ... derSummary
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