Please can you help me? I am close to depression

[wearthefoxhat]

I remember a few years back, there was a couple having sex at a cricket match in South Africa.

The cameraman missed 2 overs and there wasn't a sound from the cometary box.

Just as well with classic old commentaries of: "The bowler's Holding the batsman's Willey"

[stueytrader]

Good job you can't trade Beach Volleyball in-play with pictures, we would all go broke.

Don't think I'd be able to hit a key straight trading that!

[BetScalper]

Good job you can't trade Beach Volleyball in-play with pictures, we would all go broke.

Don't think I'd be able to hit a key straight trading that!

Nor me.

It's certainly one for complete AUTOMATION.

[Kafkaesque]

A lot of it depends on where the event in question is taking place. Italian football for instance has a lot of 'close ups of pretty girls in the crowd' bordering on creepy.

More than the producers that's based on more "interesting" spectators being female in Italy than you'd typically see in England. The most "interesting" spectators in England often are like this

[Lucacrebbe]

Being trading Azarenka vs Sloane Steaphens on Betfair.IT with real money

Stake 100$

After 4 minuts, 10$ profits.

I just closed the position.


If I was on Betfair.com the profit would have been x10, (100$)

[spreadbetting]

You can't really compare a market with little liquidity and few active players to a much more active market like the .com site. You may well be a shark on the .it site but you'll be up against plenty of more experienced sharks on the .com site. I'd happily go back to the early days of Betfair with the less liquid markets and lack of competition.

[ShaunWhite]

If I was on Betfair.com the profit would have been x10, (100$)

"If"
If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
...etc

Kipling

Not helpful but somehow your comments remind me that my education wasn't completely wasted.

Thanks for pointing out what 10 x 10 is.

[Lucacrebbe]

a 10% montlhy ROI is easly achievable.

10% per month x 12 months = 120% of annual ROI.

let's make the math with a stake of 1000 $ -- 2000 $ and 3000 $ (the max ammount tradable without having spread's problems)

1000 x 120% = 12'000 $

2000 x 120% = 24'000 $

3000 x 120% = 32' 000 $


I would achieve the 32' 000 $ annual goal. Possible?

[Trader Pat]

A lot of it depends on where the event in question is taking place. Italian football for instance has a lot of 'close ups of pretty girls in the crowd' bordering on creepy.

More than the producers that's based on more "interesting" spectators being female in Italy than you'd typically see in England. The most "interesting" spectators in England often are like this

Theres the antidote to porn addiction right there!

[ShaunWhite]

Get real Luca, you can't even calculate the risk on two girls batting a ball. You'll be lucky if you make it past reception.

[Derek27]

a 10% montlhy ROI is easly achievable.

10% per month x 12 months = 120% of annual ROI.

let's make the math with a stake of 1000 $ -- 2000 $ and 3000 $ (the max ammount tradable without having spread's problems)

1000 x 120% = 12'000 $

2000 x 120% = 24'000 $

3000 x 120% = 32' 000 $


I would achieve the 32' 000 $ annual goal. Possible?

Your maths is wrong Luca, a 10% ROI per month times 12 is still 10% ROI, you've just invested 12 times as much and made 12 times as much profit.

I've told you enough of times you won't make 10 times as much trading 10 times as much on betfair.com because the market is tighter, you won't get the same prices.

Have yo included the money you would have lost on the 1.05 in your profit calculation?

[Lucacrebbe]

a 10% montlhy ROI is easly achievable.

10% per month x 12 months = 120% of annual ROI.

let's make the math with a stake of 1000 $ -- 2000 $ and 3000 $ (the max ammount tradable without having spread's problems)

1000 x 120% = 12'000 $

2000 x 120% = 24'000 $

3000 x 120% = 32' 000 $


I would achieve the 32' 000 $ annual goal. Possible?

Your maths is wrong Lucca, a 10% ROI per month times 12 is still 10% ROI, you've just invested 12 times as much and made 12 times as much profit.

I've told you enough of times you won't make 10 times as much trading 10 times as much on betfair.com because the market is tighter, you won't get the same prices.

Have yo included the money you would have lost on the 1.05 in your profit calculation?

yes you are right I made a wrong calculation

I know that keeping costant a 10% of monthly ROI is really really hard

I disagree with the fact of Betfair.com tight odds instead. That's basically not true, because in a more liquid market the odds are often better

Anyway is in your opinion a 2% montly a more accurate/realistic forecast?

[Derek27]

a 10% montlhy ROI is easly achievable.

10% per month x 12 months = 120% of annual ROI.

let's make the math with a stake of 1000 $ -- 2000 $ and 3000 $ (the max ammount tradable without having spread's problems)

1000 x 120% = 12'000 $

2000 x 120% = 24'000 $

3000 x 120% = 32' 000 $


I would achieve the 32' 000 $ annual goal. Possible?

Your maths is wrong Lucca, a 10% ROI per month times 12 is still 10% ROI, you've just invested 12 times as much and made 12 times as much profit.

I've told you enough of times you won't make 10 times as much trading 10 times as much on betfair.com because the market is tighter, you won't get the same prices.

Have yo included the money you would have lost on the 1.05 in your profit calculation?

yes you are right I made a wrong calculation

I know that keeping costant a 10% of monthly ROI is really really hard

I disagree with the fact of Betfair.com tight odds instead. That's basically not true, because in a more liquid market the odds are often better

Anyway is in your opinion a 2% montly a more accurate/realistic forecast?

When I said tight market I was referring to the range of movement - you won't get the same ROI as you would a weaker market because the market doesn't move as much.

A realistic ROI forecast depends on how skilled the trader is.

I regret to say this, but as a trader who hasn't yet learnt to calculate risk and needs to ask on a forum what his risk is for a particular trade, I would be amazed if you made any profit!

[jimibt]

I regret to say this, but as a trader who hasn't yet learnt to calculate risk and needs to ask on a forum what his risk is for a particular trade, I would be amazed if you made any profit!

i'm unable to add to that - succinct...

[Lucacrebbe]

When I said tight market I was referring to the range of movement - you won't get the same ROI as you would a weaker market because the market doesn't move as much.

A realistic ROI forecast depends on how skilled the trader is.

I regret to say this, but as a trader who hasn't yet learnt to calculate risk and needs to ask on a forum what his risk is for a particular trade, I would be amazed if you made any profit!

If doesen't move as much also the losses are less.

Anyway , when the favourite tennis player wins the two games, breaks the unfavourite, the odds move.... I can assure you, tight market or not, the odds move...

basically it reflects the fact that people are jumping in with fear of missing out the ''train'' of the favourite player who is going to run away.

So people who have backed her pre-game are waiting for cashing out the little scalp

Then new people come and back / lay him/her (the favourite) at new competitive price.

That's how swings happen in tennis.


Paradoss: the favourite has lost in the long run

At some point Steaphens was priced 20

I would have been backing her at 13,50... 1000$ x 13,50= 1350000

I would generally advice to enjoy tennis instead of football or horsing races... the swings are insanley

(this is not a financial advice, tought)

One can end broke, or rich, /semi-rich