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SeaHorseRacing
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Sorry for completely highjacking this thread but it may come use to some.

When you look at a races previous form and you have the following.

2 identical races. Same track, same going, same temperature and same pace shape etc..

If you dig deeper you will notice that although it’s a class 4 handicap rated 0-70.

Race A. Who led the race was rated 55 and the horse pressing the pace was rated 62.

Yet in the other race B. The horse who led was rated 68 and the horse pressing the pace was rated 70.

I have researched this allot. You get different race times which would make sense.

Aw- is perfect example.

If we have 30 examples where as. Same track, same distance, same going, same weather etc. With the same rating of the horse who leads the race and the same rating of the horse who pressed the pace you than discover this happens.

The finishing times of all the races have their own little pockets.

59.58
59.58
59.59

Then the 4th fast race ever recorded jumps a chunk and shows like this

59.45
59.45
59.41
59. 38

Than the 8th fastest race jumps a pocket and looks like this.

59.28
59. 27
59.26

Etc etc

However did you know that 59.45 to 59.18 is actually an even pace.

That’s because although it was even. They all had different running style races.

Every class I have researched has shown this.

Than if you dig a little deeper these races which have grouped together you will find the front runners have jumped from wide stalls. Or a horse led for first furlong but than steadied back.

You start to see how such tiny margins have a huge impact on a race.

Just from the finishing time it is very possible to work out the pace shape of the race.
If anyone checks out ATR website it shows the sectional times for Aw racing and it shows the pace shape.. like Slow/slow-Fast. The match up identical most of the time just looking at the results from the sample example.

It’s possible to know the pace shape of a race by its finding time.
Anyway been working on it for years and fascinated me. Night folks
Last edited by SeaHorseRacing on Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:21 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Im sure there is easier solutions
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StellaBot wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:21 pm
Im sure there is easier solutions
Message me tomorrow buddy
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