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suff22886
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Any roulette players on here? want to discuss thoughts? strategies? losses? Anybody cracked it?

Every now and again i come back to roulette usually once a year, be interesting to hear peoples thoughts who play all the time :-)
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suff22886 wrote:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:35 pm
Any roulette players on here? want to discuss thoughts? strategies? losses? Anybody cracked it?

Every now and again i come back to roulette usually once a year, be interesting to hear peoples thoughts who play all the time :-)
I would recommend prestige roulette, where the bird sits on a chair and you have a good view of her legs. :D
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Derek27 wrote:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:43 pm
I would recommend prestige roulette, where the bird sits on a chair and you have a good view of her legs. :D
You dirty bastard, Derek!

I like your style pal........me and you could be mates :lol:
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Can't win long term - simples!

Amazes me when I've been in a casino and see most popular strategy appears to randomly put chips allover the place, pretty much covering everything. So get a stack of chips back most spins, must be a feel good thing I reckon.

Think I read on this forum a while ago, about someone who was watching where the persons hand was in relation to the wheel when releasing the ball, then betting on a certain section of numbers on the wheel as they didn't have much variance in each spin.
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JTEDL wrote:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:38 pm
Can't win long term - simples!

Amazes me when I've been in a casino and see most popular strategy appears to randomly put chips allover the place, pretty much covering everything. So get a stack of chips back most spins, must be a feel good thing I reckon.

Think I read on this forum a while ago, about someone who was watching where the persons hand was in relation to the wheel when releasing the ball, then betting on a certain section of numbers on the wheel as they didn't have much variance in each spin.
You certainly did, that was me!

When I was a betting shop manager for Ladbrokes in the early 90's, I befriended one of our big punting customers. He told me about a roulette strategy he had, and was banned from a number of casinos. Fortunately, one casino he wasn't banned from was Tiberius in Southampton

He studied the wheel numbers, so he knew the order, but also knew how many numbers from green zero every number was, both clockwise and anti-clockwise. People are creatures of habit, and that includes croupiers. He reckons many of them just get into a ritual of throwing the ball in at the same speed. He would watch a croupier and note what number was aligned to their hand when the ball went in, and whether it was clockwise or anti-clockwise. He would then note where the ball finished and how many numbers it was away from the starting point. After a few spins, a pattern would emerge if the croupier was a good one to target. It didn't take long before I realised he wasn't a bullshitter, and why he was probably banned by some casinos. He won a shedload of cash that night by placing bets on a range of 5 numbers where he thought the ball would finish. I'd love to know what happened to him, as he left the Southampton area
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JTEDL wrote:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:38 pm


Think I read on this forum a while ago, about someone who was watching where the persons hand was in relation to the wheel when releasing the ball, then betting on a certain section of numbers on the wheel as they didn't have much variance in each spin.
That may have been me, if not I've certainly said words to that effect in that some croupiers are capable of spinning the wheel and ball at a rate they can land it within areas of the wheel they want to a fairly high degree of accuracy.
ie, they can work with a player and aim to drop the ball around the group of numbers where they see their chips stacked
or a 'Casino' friendly croupier may aim for parts of the wheel where groups of numbers have little exposure
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Nice one, that's what I was thinking of, believable too.
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Dallas wrote:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:54 pm
JTEDL wrote:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:38 pm


Think I read on this forum a while ago, about someone who was watching where the persons hand was in relation to the wheel when releasing the ball, then betting on a certain section of numbers on the wheel as they didn't have much variance in each spin.
That may have been me, if not I've certainly said words to that effect in that some croupiers are capable of spinning the wheel and ball at a rate they can land it within areas of the wheel they want to a fairly high degree of accuracy.
ie, they can work with a player and aim to drop the ball around the group of numbers where they see their chips stacked
or a 'Casino' friendly croupier may aim for parts of the wheel where groups of numbers have little exposure
Yes, that could happen with the more experienced croupiers. I dealt roulette and the other table games as a croupier over 20 years ago. The most accurate way was to aim for the Zero (green) as it was easy to identify as the wheel is spinning. The chinese used to lump on the Tierre section, opposite section to the Zero, cleaned them out time and time again.

The attraction of Roulette is the small 2.7% house edge that can be "overcome" in the short term, but not obviously in the long term.

There is/was an electronic device the size of a mobile phone that could calculate the revolutions of the ball and predict a section the ball will land. A team in London took a casino for a tidy sum a fews years back, so it's possible under optimum conditions.
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I've only played once, maybe twice, in my life, as it has no appeal to me, so I had to do a quick Youtube to see how it spins. I seem to recall from that one time, that there was a handle (of sorts) in the middle, where the dealer would need to set the wheel in motion. It looks from the video, I just saw, like that has been made an automatic process.

Surely any casino worth their salt would counter the above examples by randomly changing the speed at which the wheel is spinning the opposite direction of the ball, making croupier tendencies insignificant???
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Not just the dealers that are biased, so are the wheels:

https://elpais.com/elpais/2012/04/16/in ... 55582.html
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The first wearable roulette computer dates back to about 1960 or 61 but was devised in the late 50s by a guy called Edward Thorp.

https://www.engadget.com/2013/09/18/edw ... computing/
thorp3-viafriend620-1379361753.jpg
The first known rigged wheel dates from about 1929 so you can see how wise to the game casinos are.

https://youtu.be/iOOc4sVA_vc?t=190 (try and ignore the overbearing background music)

With modern tech, casinios would be skint overnight if it was still that easy, I think they use variable slipping clutches to alter the drag on the wheel these days.
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LeTiss wrote:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:49 pm
JTEDL wrote:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:38 pm
Can't win long term - simples!

Amazes me when I've been in a casino and see most popular strategy appears to randomly put chips allover the place, pretty much covering everything. So get a stack of chips back most spins, must be a feel good thing I reckon.

Think I read on this forum a while ago, about someone who was watching where the persons hand was in relation to the wheel when releasing the ball, then betting on a certain section of numbers on the wheel as they didn't have much variance in each spin.
You certainly did, that was me!

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4011&p=27919&hilit=roulette#p27919
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The only way to beat roulette is using Visual ballistics.

I will more than happily dig out some information on this... but just to clarify.. I got caught using a pda System with an ear piece and a clicker that ran from my jacket pocket up into the pda... after winning 20k from mint casino in one night in Southampton... the wankers called Grosvenor casino and I got a national bar there too..

3 nights later back in 2010 I went to Gala casino Bournemouth and oh would you behold it Mint casino called them too... unless you want to travel the world or go to independent casinos in London to win a few quid for the practise you put in is really not worth it imo.

The guy who taught me (John @Jafcoroulette) check him out online is a master at this... going off topic the only reason I assign racehorses a moon rating is because on a full moon or storm is the days roulette balls hardly bounce.

The days the balls hardly bounce is the days the casinos get f over.
These wheel tracking softwares can predict balls very easily and you don’t need a wheel bias to do so.

It’s simple mathematics.. the speed the wheel is turning against the speed the ball is spinning can predict which of the diamonds the vall hits... when you have conditions where the ball hardly bounces... you’ve got the jackpot.
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SeaHorseRacing wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:11 pm
The only way to beat roulette is using Visual ballistics.

The guy who taught me (John @Jafcoroulette) check him out online is a master at this... going off topic the only reason I assign racehorses a moon rating is because on a full moon or storm is the days roulette balls hardly bounce.
total bollocks
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