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Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:41 pm

superfrank wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:20 pm


Teaching unions didn't want their members to go back to work (the members probably fancied another 6 months off on full pay). It's a good job the public sector isn't responsible for our food supplies - we'd have starved to death.
Lol, you're trying to make out all those private sector workers were over the moon to be maintaining the food supply, all on their minimum wage pay. I'm sure the shareholders were more than happy but imagine the staff were ruing the day they stopped paying their union subs unlike the teachers.

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Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:55 pm

jamesg46 wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:38 pm
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Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:25 pm
If nine responsible people and one irresponsible person sail across the ocean with a modest food supply, the food larder needs to be under lock and key - you can't leave it to personal responsibility.
Which responsible person do you trust with the key & how do you know that your choice of person isn't secretly irresponsible. We cant lock up society Derek, there are people who do irresponsible things all the time but we don't lock everyone up because of it.
You have three keys with locks that have to be opened simultaneously. ;)

What I'm basically saying is that if it takes a small minority to destroy the efforts of the majority and you know it's going to happen you have to do something to try to stop or deter them.

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Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:04 pm

Derek27 wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:55 pm
jamesg46 wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:38 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:25 pm
If nine responsible people and one irresponsible person sail across the ocean with a modest food supply, the food larder needs to be under lock and key - you can't leave it to personal responsibility.
Which responsible person do you trust with the key & how do you know that your choice of person isn't secretly irresponsible. We cant lock up society Derek, there are people who do irresponsible things all the time but we don't lock everyone up because of it.
You have three keys with locks that have to be opened simultaneously. ;)

What I'm basically saying is that if it takes a small minority to destroy the efforts of the majority and you know it's going to happen you have to do something to try to stop or deter them.
I see your point, although its debatable depending on which scientists we listen to whether or not we could be doing more harm than good with lockdowns. I'm not a scientist though so its probably best I don't debate it with anyone.

Cant believe I've ended up getting back into this thread. That's twice I've broken my pledge of no covid thread :lol:

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Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:21 pm

spreadbetting wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:41 pm
superfrank wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:20 pm
Teaching unions didn't want their members to go back to work (the members probably fancied another 6 months off on full pay). It's a good job the public sector isn't responsible for our food supplies - we'd have starved to death.
Lol, you're trying to make out all those private sector workers were over the moon to be maintaining the food supply, all on their minimum wage pay. I'm sure the shareholders were more than happy but imagine the staff were ruing the day they stopped paying their union subs unlike the teachers.
No I wasn't. The point is that private enterprise is incredibly effective at getting things done. The state, not so much.

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Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:48 pm

Getting things done maybe, just not necessarily getting them done well or fairly though.

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Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:38 am

Naffman wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:48 am
Boris has lost the plot if he goes for a new lockdown
Isolate or infect … maybe we should have a referendum to resolve it once and for all! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:20 am

Age - breakdown on deaths so far.

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Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:09 pm

wearthefoxhat wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:20 am
Age - breakdown on deaths so far.


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Take radical measures (spend public money and tax me) to protect old people and others who are vulnerable and set everyone else free. No more lockdowns, no more trashing the economy.

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Fri Sep 18, 2020 1:00 pm

GF has been ill these past few days and had to be sent home from work Tuesday night, been trying to get a test ever since but to no avail.

Got one at Hull's only site at 12pm today and t'was totally dead, we were the only car there and we were there a good 10 minutes!!

But we are running out of tests apparently, bullshit

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Naffman wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 1:00 pm
GF has been ill these past few days and had to be sent home from work Tuesday night, been trying to get a test ever since but to no avail.

Got one at Hull's only site at 12pm today and t'was totally dead, we were the only car there and we were there a good 10 minutes!!

But we are running out of tests apparently, bullshit
According to Jacob Rees-Mogg, instead of complaining when you got home, you should have cracked open the beers and started celebrating the phenomenal success of the UK's Covid-19 testing facilities. :?

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