Fill or Kill set to Zero ? Behaving badly?

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Dallas
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grindhog wrote:
Sat May 13, 2017 12:27 pm
Hi dallas,
I can confirm that the Zero Fill/Kill -with offset feature works perfectly in real mode.
It is actually a GEM of a feature and shall be using it when i can. Fair play to BA there are loads of gem features in there. I gather there are new features
in the 1.48 beta also. Musthavealook.
BTW dallas your job is safe I wont be signing up to write the manual anytime soon. Forgive me for being a pain.
Glad its cleared up for you :)
While orders can be submitted with zero used as a fill/kill time you still need to take into account the milli seconds it takes for each order to reach, be processed and returned by BF etc so i would suggest still using at least 0.5 especially if trading when the market activity is relatively high.

Yes there's been some neat little features added to V1.48 so well worth a look
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Dallas, are you implying that the FillKIll functionality that betfair provide has not been implemented into BA?
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LinusP wrote:
Sat May 13, 2017 1:30 pm
Dallas, are you implying that the FillKIll functionality that betfair provide has not been implemented into BA?
No, their has been a fill/kill option within BA for a number of years or do you mean has their been a recent change in the code to how it works?
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Dallas wrote:
Sat May 13, 2017 10:08 am
Apart from it being the number of seconds a unmatched bet is held in the market until being killed Fill or kill also needs to be ticked if you only want the offset placing after the opening bet begins to get matched
http://www.betangel.com/forum/viewtopic ... 47&t=11817

An example of when you would use 'zero' as the fill/kill time would be in the following scenario;

You could select a stake of say £100 then in an illiquid market if you seen an amount waiting to be matched ie, £36 you could then take that money and £36 would be immediately offset for you at the number of ticks specified and the remaining £64 would be killed - where as if you used say a 10 sec fill/kill after taking the £36 your remaining £64 would be left at those odds as a unmatched bets for the remainder of those 10 secs or until filled.
Hi Dallas,

Why does offset require a fill or kill? Why can I not put a bet in the market, with offset selected and not have to have fill or kill set to 99999?

Thanks.
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deansaccount wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:42 pm
Dallas wrote:
Sat May 13, 2017 10:08 am
Apart from it being the number of seconds a unmatched bet is held in the market until being killed Fill or kill also needs to be ticked if you only want the offset placing after the opening bet begins to get matched
http://www.betangel.com/forum/viewtopic ... 47&t=11817

An example of when you would use 'zero' as the fill/kill time would be in the following scenario;

You could select a stake of say £100 then in an illiquid market if you seen an amount waiting to be matched ie, £36 you could then take that money and £36 would be immediately offset for you at the number of ticks specified and the remaining £64 would be killed - where as if you used say a 10 sec fill/kill after taking the £36 your remaining £64 would be left at those odds as a unmatched bets for the remainder of those 10 secs or until filled.
Hi Dallas,

Why does offset require a fill or kill? Why can I not put a bet in the market, with offset selected and not have to have fill or kill set to 99999?

Thanks.
Without the fill/kill enabled it will place both bets at the same time, this gives the user the choice of how/when they have there offset placed
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Dallas wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:00 pm
deansaccount wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:42 pm
Dallas wrote:
Sat May 13, 2017 10:08 am
Apart from it being the number of seconds a unmatched bet is held in the market until being killed Fill or kill also needs to be ticked if you only want the offset placing after the opening bet begins to get matched
http://www.betangel.com/forum/viewtopic ... 47&t=11817

An example of when you would use 'zero' as the fill/kill time would be in the following scenario;

You could select a stake of say £100 then in an illiquid market if you seen an amount waiting to be matched ie, £36 you could then take that money and £36 would be immediately offset for you at the number of ticks specified and the remaining £64 would be killed - where as if you used say a 10 sec fill/kill after taking the £36 your remaining £64 would be left at those odds as a unmatched bets for the remainder of those 10 secs or until filled.
Hi Dallas,

Why does offset require a fill or kill? Why can I not put a bet in the market, with offset selected and not have to have fill or kill set to 99999?

Thanks.
Without the fill/kill enabled it will place both bets at the same time, this gives the user the choice of how/when they have there offset placed
Ok thanks
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