Bet Angel - Automation : Can somebody please explain "Betfair Order"

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Willygubbins
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Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:07 pm

Hi, Can somebody explain to me what information Betfair use to determine the order they place the horse in please......

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Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:32 pm

They order them by reduction factor and then alphabetically. The reduction factor is based on the early 'tissue' price

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Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:23 am

spreadbetting wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:32 pm
They order them by reduction factor and then alphabetically. The reduction factor is based on the early 'tissue' price
... for UK horse racing markets. French, US and Australian markets are ordered by saddle cloth number.

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spreadbetting wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:32 pm
They order them by reduction factor and then alphabetically. The reduction factor is based on the early 'tissue' price
and is this information available anywhere? so the order could be emulated in historic data

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Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:26 pm

Where did you get the historic data from?

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Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:38 pm

Willygubbins wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:18 pm
spreadbetting wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:32 pm
They order them by reduction factor and then alphabetically. The reduction factor is based on the early 'tissue' price
and is this information available anywhere? so the order could be emulated in historic data
Not that I know of, it gets output with the price data but don't know of anywhere they provide it alongside the historical data.

Obviously you can emulate the non UK/IRE stuff as the saddlecloth number is included with the name. Looking at tomorrows data they're not even organising the duplicate reduction factors alphabetically so who knows what how they order those these days. First ordering has always been by reduction factor for UK/IRE stuff though.

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spreadbetting wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:38 pm
Willygubbins wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:18 pm
spreadbetting wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:32 pm
They order them by reduction factor and then alphabetically. The reduction factor is based on the early 'tissue' price
and is this information available anywhere? so the order could be emulated in historic data
Not that I know of, it gets output with the price data but don't know of anywhere they provide it alongside the historical data.

Obviously you can emulate the non UK/IRE stuff as the saddlecloth number is included with the name. Looking at tomorrows data they're not even organising the duplicate reduction factors alphabetically so who knows what how they order those these days. First ordering has always been by reduction factor for UK/IRE stuff though.
thanks, it just seems a little short sited of bet angel to have the overriding factor as something that is unobtainable by its users.....

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