Speed - Automation vs Spreadsheet

[Dallas]

Hi I have another question regarding speed.

If I have a very good internet speed from Virgin Broadband, will the BetAngel VPS still be faster?

And does computer affect the speed of refresh and placing orders?
I run BA on a Mac with Windows installed and it works pretty good but sometimes I am wondering if I am missing on the speed.
Sometimes bets don't get matched in play but that could be normal not relating to the speed of connection or computer but simply because of too fast price movement.

Thanks

It makes no difference if you have a 3mb or 300mb connection it's the ping that is important and dictates the speed you get responses from the Betfair servers.

When using polling a typical PC within the UK if you look at the first number (response time taken to retrieve latest price update) should typically flick between 25-50, on a Bet Angel VPS this is normally around 12-18

So the response time to Betfair is quicker from a VPS and is a definite advantage when using automation from a VPS, when manually trading via a VPS you also have the remote connection from you to the VPS, so with a good connection it will work out to be similar to using BA on a desktop PC

Thanks Dallas,

I use mostly automation and was wondering if I can try VPS for one month?

There is no free trial with the ones supplied by BA, they are charged per month which you can cancel at any time

[RonObvious]

When using polling a typical PC within the UK if you look at the first number (response time taken to retrieve latest price update) should typically flick between 25-50, on a Bet Angel VPS this is normally around 12-18

So the response time to Betfair is quicker from a VPS and is a definite advantage when using automation from a VPS, when manually trading via a VPS you also have the remote connection from you to the VPS, so with a good connection it will work out to be similar to using BA on a desktop PC

When I try this using command prompt to poll www.betfair.com I just get a message saying request timed out.

Works fine for every other website I poll though

[cmuddle]

Hi I have another question regarding speed.

If I have a very good internet speed from Virgin Broadband, will the BetAngel VPS still be faster?

And does computer affect the speed of refresh and placing orders?
I run BA on a Mac with Windows installed and it works pretty good but sometimes I am wondering if I am missing on the speed.
Sometimes bets don't get matched in play but that could be normal not relating to the speed of connection or computer but simply because of too fast price movement.

Thanks

Yes, automation is far quicker than manually submitting an order.

Automation would trigger as soon as a price refresh was done if all conditions etc were met
When concentrating very hard the average human response time is 200ms-300ms by which time the software could have refreshed the prices over 10 times.

It makes no difference if you have a 3mb or 300mb connection it's the ping that is important and dictates the speed you get responses from the Betfair servers.

When using polling a typical PC within the UK if you look at the first number (response time taken to retrieve latest price update) should typically flick between 25-50, on a Bet Angel VPS this is normally around 12-18

So the response time to Betfair is quicker from a VPS and is a definite advantage when using automation from a VPS, when manually trading via a VPS you also have the remote connection from you to the VPS, so with a good connection it will work out to be similar to using BA on a desktop PC

Hi Dallas

I wanted to try out BA Server Edition on a VPS but it is not opening and this is the message that I get?

It's running Windows 2016 Standard Edition x64 xen

Thanks

[Dallas]

Hi I have another question regarding speed.

If I have a very good internet speed from Virgin Broadband, will the BetAngel VPS still be faster?

And does computer affect the speed of refresh and placing orders?
I run BA on a Mac with Windows installed and it works pretty good but sometimes I am wondering if I am missing on the speed.
Sometimes bets don't get matched in play but that could be normal not relating to the speed of connection or computer but simply because of too fast price movement.

Thanks

It makes no difference if you have a 3mb or 300mb connection it's the ping that is important and dictates the speed you get responses from the Betfair servers.

When using polling a typical PC within the UK if you look at the first number (response time taken to retrieve latest price update) should typically flick between 25-50, on a Bet Angel VPS this is normally around 12-18

So the response time to Betfair is quicker from a VPS and is a definite advantage when using automation from a VPS, when manually trading via a VPS you also have the remote connection from you to the VPS, so with a good connection it will work out to be similar to using BA on a desktop PC

Hi Dallas

I wanted to try out BA Server Edition on a VPS but it is not opening and this is the message that I get?

It's running Windows 2016 Standard Edition x64 xen

Thanks

You will need to install the regular version of Bet Angel Pro if the VPS has been provided by anyone other than Bet Angel

The Server edition can only be used on VPS's supplied by Bet Angel, if you try to use it on a VPS supplied by another company or on a desktop PC you will get that error code 6.

[Dallas]

When using polling a typical PC within the UK if you look at the first number (response time taken to retrieve latest price update) should typically flick between 25-50, on a Bet Angel VPS this is normally around 12-18

So the response time to Betfair is quicker from a VPS and is a definite advantage when using automation from a VPS, when manually trading via a VPS you also have the remote connection from you to the VPS, so with a good connection it will work out to be similar to using BA on a desktop PC

When I try this using command prompt to poll www.betfair.com I just get a message saying request timed out.

Works fine for every other website I poll though

I can't help you with why you can't ping the Betfair website (i get the same message) so it must be something they have there end to stop it but if your trying to test your speed to Betfair the Bet Angel software connects to Betfair via the API so pinging the general website will likely give you a different response time anyway.
It would be better to just test via the responsiveness indicators within Bet Angel while polling is enabled

[RonObvious]

OK thanks Dallas

[ShaunWhite]

You will need to install the regular version of Bet Angel Pro if the VPS has been provided by anyone other than Bet Angel

The Server edition can only be used on VPS's supplied by Bet Angel, if you try to use it on a VPS supplied by another company or on a desktop PC you will get that error code 6.

That's interesting Dallas, how do the two versions differ. What trickery have you got on the BA vps box that others don't. How come it needs a different version?

I thought the server version was just a version that worked with Win2016 or 2012R2 rather than the usual desktop OS flavours.

[Bet Angel]

As a Bet Angel VPS is a known environment (e.g. performance, internet routing characteristics etc) the Server Edition has been tuned to suit.
That's why we don't let it run on unknown environment. For everything else, you just use the regular version of Professional.

BTW, with regard to betfair blocking ping tests. Last time I tried, you can test the ping to them if you use a tool called psping and specify port 443

[cmuddle]

As a Bet Angel VPS is a known environment (e.g. performance, internet routing characteristics etc) the Server Edition has been tuned to suit.
That's why we don't let it run on unknown environment. For everything else, you just use the regular version of Professional.

BTW, with regard to betfair blocking ping tests. Last time I tried, you can test the ping to them if you use a tool called psping and specify port 443

What is the advantage of using BA Server Edition on BA VPS rather than normal version of BA on a different VPS?

Thanks