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cains
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Hi

Not sure what i should write in subject.
I have an automation running where i back the under2,5 and offset with greening 1 tick lower.
Sometimes it places the back bet, but not the lay.
Sometimes it then place another back back or maybe more.
And then instead of having the risk of 1 back bet, im risking several back bets. Has seen 7 as the highest where i noticed it in play. Luckily the market moved in the right direction with no goals, so i could green for good amount, but if a goal was scored before i would be down many more points that i wants to.

Is it possible to add a rule so it looks on the "status" of the selections.
So it sees i have 1 unit green on under (couse it has been backed) and 1 unit red on over, then it will run a greening up the market.

Hope it makes sense. :(

/ Carsten
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Kafkaesque
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Look to add the condition "Number of unmatched bets" set to equal to 0 (or less than 1). You will still occassionally in my experience see the automation end up sending 2 bets in, and you'll need signals to make this less likely, but if you can live with going from up to 7 to very rarely 2, then signals aren't a necessity.

As for not placing lay/greening bets, you'll need to post a log to ascertain what happened. And probably need Dallas to answer instead of me :lol:
cains
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Thanks. :)

Already got the unmatched bets = 0 in condition.
Yeah know i need some log. My computer restarted after a win10 update :( so dont have anything..
But will let it run again this weekend, to see if i catch any strange things . :)

/ Carsten
cains
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Got a few games now, where it misfired:

The rule is backing Under 2,5 when WOM less than 25%.
1 tick below best reverse. Its offset with greening 1 tick, and fill or kill 25sec.
It re-arms after 30sec

Hope someone can help. Since it cost me a couple of bets when it misfires. :(

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17-10-2018 23:08:44:  Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
17-10-2018 23:08:44:  Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
17-10-2018 23:08:47:  Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
17-10-2018 23:14:04: [G_Auto] :  k 32.00 Back bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 2.12. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market.   Ref: 141403071147          ( Fill or kill bet with 25 seconds delay.  Offsetting by 1 ticks with greening.   )
17-10-2018 23:14:18: [G_Auto] :  k 32 of unmatched bet (Ref:141403071147) was filled before remainder was killed.
17-10-2018 23:14:23: [G_Auto] :  k 32.30 Lay bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 2.1. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market.   Ref: 141403089011
17-10-2018 23:14:58: [G_Auto] :  k 32.00 Back bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 2.12. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market.   Ref: 141403119151          ( Fill or kill bet with 25 seconds delay.  Offsetting by 1 ticks with greening.   )
17-10-2018 23:15:15: [G_Auto] :  k 32 of unmatched bet (Ref:141403119151) was filled before remainder was killed.
17-10-2018 23:15:20: [G_Auto] :  k 32.30 Lay bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 2.1. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market.   Ref: 141403137902
17-10-2018 23:16:03: [G_Auto] :  k 32.00 Back bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 2.1. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market.   Ref: 141403172726          ( Fill or kill bet with 25 seconds delay.  Offsetting by 1 ticks with greening.   )
17-10-2018 23:16:23: [G_Auto] :  k 32 of unmatched bet (Ref:141403172726) was filled before remainder was killed.
17-10-2018 23:16:28: [G_Auto] :  k 32.31 Lay bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 2.08. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market.   Ref: 141403192696
17-10-2018 23:16:45: [G_Auto] :  k 32.00 Back bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 2.1. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market.   Ref: 141403206206          ( Fill or kill bet with 25 seconds delay.  Offsetting by 1 ticks with greening.   )
17-10-2018 23:17:10: [G_Auto] :  k 32 unmatched bet (Ref:141403206206) was killed.
17-10-2018 23:17:18: [G_Auto] :  k 32.00 Back bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 2.08. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market.   Ref: 141403237636          ( Fill or kill bet with 25 seconds delay.  Offsetting by 1 ticks with greening.   )
17-10-2018 23:17:43: [G_Auto] :  k 32 unmatched bet (Ref:141403237636) was killed.
17-10-2018 23:17:50: [G_Auto] :  k 32.00 Back bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 2.04. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market.   Ref: 141403262755          ( Fill or kill bet with 25 seconds delay.  Offsetting by 1 ticks with greening.   )
17-10-2018 23:18:15: [G_Auto] :  k 32 unmatched bet (Ref:141403262755) was killed.
17-10-2018 23:18:23: [G_Auto] :  k 32.00 Back bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 2.02. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market.   Ref: 141403289894          ( Fill or kill bet with 25 seconds delay.  Offsetting by 1 ticks with greening.   )
17-10-2018 23:18:48: [G_Auto] :  k 32 unmatched bet (Ref:141403289894) was killed.
17-10-2018 23:18:58: [G_Auto] :  k 32.00 Back bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 2. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market.   Ref: 141403320147          ( Fill or kill bet with 25 seconds delay.  Offsetting by 1 ticks with greening.   )
17-10-2018 23:19:23: [G_Auto] :  k 32 unmatched bet (Ref:141403320147) was killed.
17-10-2018 23:19:35: [G_Auto] :  k 32.00 Back bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 1.97. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market.   Ref: 141403349080          ( Fill or kill bet with 25 seconds delay.  Offsetting by 1 ticks with greening.   )
17-10-2018 23:19:38: [G_Auto] :  k 32 of unmatched bet (Ref:141403349080) was filled before remainder was killed.
17-10-2018 23:19:44: [G_Auto] :  k 32.16 Lay bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 1.96. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market.   Ref: 141403355232
17-10-2018 23:21:41: [G_Auto] :  k 32.00 Back bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 1.99. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market.   Ref: 141403433690          ( Fill or kill bet with 25 seconds delay.  Offsetting by 1 ticks with greening.   )
17-10-2018 23:22:16: [G_Auto] :  k 32 unmatched bet (Ref:141403433690) was killed.
17-10-2018 23:22:19: [G_Auto] :  k 32.00 Back bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 1.99. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market.   Ref: 141403461224          ( Fill or kill bet with 25 seconds delay.  Offsetting by 1 ticks with greening.   )
17-10-2018 23:22:38: [G_Auto] :  k 32 of unmatched bet (Ref:141403461224) was filled before remainder was killed.
17-10-2018 23:22:43: [G_Auto] :  k 32.16 Lay bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 1.98. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market.   Ref: 141403477850
17-10-2018 23:22:45: [G_Auto] :  k 32.00 Back bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 2. Fully matched at 2.  Ref: 141403479272          ( Fill or kill bet with 25 seconds delay.  Offsetting by 1 ticks with greening.   )
17-10-2018 23:22:50: [G_Auto] :  k 32.16 Lay bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 1.99. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market.   Ref: 141403482768
17-10-2018 23:30:31:  Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
17-10-2018 23:30:36:  Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
17-10-2018 23:31:39: [G_Auto] :  Automation Signal for market: Goal = 1
17-10-2018 23:32:50:  Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
17-10-2018 23:32:53: [G_Auto] :  Unable to place back bet on Under 2,5 mål at 4.6. The bet has already been taken or lapsed.
17-10-2018 23:34:30:  Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
17-10-2018 23:35:32: [G_Auto] :  Automation Signal for market: Goal = 2
17-10-2018 23:44:55: [G_Auto] :  Greened up Under 2,5 mål by Laying 21.75 at 8.8
17-10-2018 23:45:10: [G_Auto] :  Greened up Under 2,5 mål by Laying 0.50 at 8.6
17-10-2018 23:45:20: [G_Auto] :  An error occurred while Greening Up Under 2,5 mål by Laying 0.02 at 8.4 [stage 3S]: The entire order has been rejected.
17-10-2018 23:50:12:  Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
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18-10-2018 00:00:23:  Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
18-10-2018 00:00:23:  Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
18-10-2018 00:00:25:  Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
18-10-2018 00:06:44: [G_Auto] :  k 32.00 Back bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 2.88. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market.   Ref: 141405058350          ( Fill or kill bet with 25 seconds delay.  Offsetting by 1 ticks with greening.   )
18-10-2018 00:07:02: [G_Auto] :  k 32 of unmatched bet (Ref:141405058350) was filled before remainder was killed.
18-10-2018 00:07:07: [G_Auto] :  k 32.00 Back bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 2.84. Fully matched at 2.88.  Ref: 141405070599          ( Fill or kill bet with 25 seconds delay.  Offsetting by 1 ticks with greening.   )
18-10-2018 00:07:07: [G_Auto] :  k 32.22 Lay bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 2.86. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market.   Ref: 141405070685
18-10-2018 00:07:13: [G_Auto] :  k 32.22 Lay bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 2.86. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market.   Ref: 141405073701
18-10-2018 00:07:37: [G_Auto] :  k 32.00 Back bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 2.92. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market.   Ref: 141405086660          ( Fill or kill bet with 25 seconds delay.  Offsetting by 1 ticks with greening.   )
18-10-2018 00:07:45: [G_Auto] :  k 32 of unmatched bet (Ref:141405086660) was filled before remainder was killed.
18-10-2018 00:07:50: [G_Auto] :  k 32.22 Lay bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 2.9. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market.   Ref: 141405094917
18-10-2018 00:08:32: [G_Auto] :  k 32.00 Back bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 2.98. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market.   Ref: 141405116753          ( Fill or kill bet with 25 seconds delay.  Offsetting by 1 ticks with greening.   )
18-10-2018 00:09:03: [G_Auto] :  k 32.00 Back bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 2.88. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market.   Ref: 141405134239          ( Fill or kill bet with 25 seconds delay.  Offsetting by 1 ticks with greening.   )
18-10-2018 00:09:08: [G_Auto] :  k 32 unmatched bet (Ref:141405116753) was killed.
18-10-2018 00:09:08: [G_Auto] :  k 32 of unmatched bet (Ref:141405134239) was filled before remainder was killed.
18-10-2018 00:09:13: [G_Auto] :  k 32.22 Lay bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 2.86. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market.   Ref: 141405139113
18-10-2018 00:09:59:  Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
18-10-2018 00:10:03:  Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
18-10-2018 00:11:12: [G_Auto] :  Automation Signal for market: Goal = 1
18-10-2018 00:20:59: [G_Auto] :  k 32.00 Back bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 5.5. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market.   Ref: 141405521568          ( Fill or kill bet with 25 seconds delay.  Offsetting by 1 ticks with greening.   )
18-10-2018 00:21:24: [G_Auto] :  k 32 unmatched bet (Ref:141405521568) was killed.
18-10-2018 00:26:00: [G_Auto] :  Unable to place back bet on Under 2,5 mål at 4.4. The order cannot be processed as the market is suspended.
18-10-2018 00:26:01:  Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
18-10-2018 00:26:06:  Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
18-10-2018 00:27:19: [G_Auto] :  Automation Signal for market: Goal = 2
18-10-2018 00:36:34: [G_Auto] :  Greened up Under 2,5 mål by Laying 17.05 at 11
18-10-2018 00:36:49: [G_Auto] :  Greened up Under 2,5 mål by Laying 0.80 at 10.5
18-10-2018 00:37:00: [G_Auto] :  An error occurred while Greening Up Under 2,5 mål by Laying 0.04 at 10.5 [stage 3S]: The entire order has been rejected.
18-10-2018 01:06:20:  Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
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Dallas
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If you can copy and paste out the few lines around the misfire in each log it will be easier to see where your referring to and advise
cains
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Dallas wrote:
Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:57 pm
If you can copy and paste out the few lines around the misfire in each log it will be easier to see where your referring to and advise
Yeah off course. My brain is burnt these days. Dont know why i think everyone is on same page as me all time. :(

17-10-2018 23:08:44: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
17-10-2018 23:08:44: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
17-10-2018 23:08:47: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
17-10-2018 23:14:04: [G_Auto] : k 32.00 Back bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 2.12. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 141403071147 ( Fill or kill bet with 25 seconds delay. Offsetting by 1 ticks with greening. )
17-10-2018 23:14:18: [G_Auto] : k 32 of unmatched bet (Ref:141403071147) was filled before remainder was killed.
17-10-2018 23:14:23: [G_Auto] : k 32.30 Lay bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 2.1. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 141403089011
17-10-2018 23:14:58: [G_Auto] : k 32.00 Back bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 2.12. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 141403119151 ( Fill or kill bet with 25 seconds delay. Offsetting by 1 ticks with greening. )
17-10-2018 23:15:15: [G_Auto] : k 32 of unmatched bet (Ref:141403119151) was filled before remainder was killed.
17-10-2018 23:15:20: [G_Auto] : k 32.30 Lay bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 2.1. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 141403137902
17-10-2018 23:16:03: [G_Auto] : k 32.00 Back bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 2.1. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 141403172726 ( Fill or kill bet with 25 seconds delay. Offsetting by 1 ticks with greening. )
17-10-2018 23:16:23: [G_Auto] : k 32 of unmatched bet (Ref:141403172726) was filled before remainder was killed.
17-10-2018 23:16:28: [G_Auto] : k 32.31 Lay bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 2.08. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 141403192696
17-10-2018 23:16:45: [G_Auto] : k 32.00 Back bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 2.1. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 141403206206 ( Fill or kill bet with 25 seconds delay. Offsetting by 1 ticks with greening. )
17-10-2018 23:17:10: [G_Auto] : k 32 unmatched bet (Ref:141403206206) was killed.
17-10-2018 23:17:18: [G_Auto] : k 32.00 Back bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 2.08. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 141403237636 ( Fill or kill bet with 25 seconds delay. Offsetting by 1 ticks with greening. )
17-10-2018 23:17:43: [G_Auto] : k 32 unmatched bet (Ref:141403237636) was killed.
17-10-2018 23:17:50: [G_Auto] : k 32.00 Back bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 2.04. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 141403262755 ( Fill or kill bet with 25 seconds delay. Offsetting by 1 ticks with greening. )
17-10-2018 23:18:15: [G_Auto] : k 32 unmatched bet (Ref:141403262755) was killed.
17-10-2018 23:18:23: [G_Auto] : k 32.00 Back bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 2.02. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 141403289894 ( Fill or kill bet with 25 seconds delay. Offsetting by 1 ticks with greening. )
17-10-2018 23:18:48: [G_Auto] : k 32 unmatched bet (Ref:141403289894) was killed.
17-10-2018 23:18:58: [G_Auto] : k 32.00 Back bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 2. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 141403320147 ( Fill or kill bet with 25 seconds delay. Offsetting by 1 ticks with greening. )
17-10-2018 23:19:23: [G_Auto] : k 32 unmatched bet (Ref:141403320147) was killed.
17-10-2018 23:19:35: [G_Auto] : k 32.00 Back bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 1.97. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 141403349080 ( Fill or kill bet with 25 seconds delay. Offsetting by 1 ticks with greening. )
17-10-2018 23:19:38: [G_Auto] : k 32 of unmatched bet (Ref:141403349080) was filled before remainder was killed.
17-10-2018 23:19:44: [G_Auto] : k 32.16 Lay bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 1.96. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 141403355232
17-10-2018 23:21:41: [G_Auto] : k 32.00 Back bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 1.99. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 141403433690 ( Fill or kill bet with 25 seconds delay. Offsetting by 1 ticks with greening. )
17-10-2018 23:22:16: [G_Auto] : k 32 unmatched bet (Ref:141403433690) was killed.
17-10-2018 23:22:19: [G_Auto] : k 32.00 Back bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 1.99. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 141403461224 ( Fill or kill bet with 25 seconds delay. Offsetting by 1 ticks with greening. )
17-10-2018 23:22:38: [G_Auto] : k 32 of unmatched bet (Ref:141403461224) was filled before remainder was killed.
17-10-2018 23:22:43: [G_Auto] : k 32.16 Lay bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 1.98. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 141403477850
17-10-2018 23:22:45: [G_Auto] : k 32.00 Back bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 2. Fully matched at 2. Ref: 141403479272 ( Fill or kill bet with 25 seconds delay. Offsetting by 1 ticks with greening. )

17-10-2018 23:22:50: [G_Auto] : k 32.16 Lay bet placed on Under 2,5 mål at 1.99. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 141403482768
17-10-2018 23:30:31: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
17-10-2018 23:30:36: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
17-10-2018 23:31:39: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: Goal = 1
17-10-2018 23:32:50: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
17-10-2018 23:32:53: [G_Auto] : Unable to place back bet on Under 2,5 mål at 4.6. The bet has already been taken or lapsed.
17-10-2018 23:34:30: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
17-10-2018 23:35:32: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: Goal = 2
17-10-2018 23:44:55: [G_Auto] : Greened up Under 2,5 mål by Laying 21.75 at 8.8
17-10-2018 23:45:10: [G_Auto] : Greened up Under 2,5 mål by Laying 0.50 at 8.6
17-10-2018 23:45:20: [G_Auto] : An error occurred while Greening Up Under 2,5 mål by Laying 0.02 at 8.4 [stage 3S]: The entire order has been rejected.
17-10-2018 23:50:12: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended

The 2 marked one look suspecius for me. If its correct the market moved fast. Back @1,99 is matched, and lay is matched faster than the 5sec delay. Then back bet is placed 2 sec later.
The last one looks like a bet is matched @4,6 but no lay bets is put in the market. Then 1,5min later second goal is scored.

But yeah is hard to see what went wrong and why. I will keep closer look in future markets.
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Thanks, that's much clearer now :)

Without seeing your conditions its tricky to give an exact answer but I suspect your back bet rule has an unmatched bets condition equal to 0

If so in the highlighted log it looks like the WOM of the back bet (ID ending 272) was met so it triggered, but because the lay was not yet in the market due to the IP delay the unmatched bets condition equal to 0 was satisfied

If you add the following condition to you back bet rule it should prevent that from happening again

Fill/kill bet time condition
Time is greater than 6 secs

For the last error it just after the bet was triggered (but before it arrived in the market) the market was suspended so thats why you got that log entry
cains
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Hehe good :)

Also made more sense to me now i had to point it out :D

Never used that fill/kill condition. I have tried adding it now. But yes make sense thats why.
There need to be thought of the rearm timing / fill/kill timing and IP delay..

But thanks for input. I have added that condition and will try and run it for a few days again :)
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