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[PeterLe]

Hi
Just another way of using the automation feature...

I have a particular system that only trades when the market (horses) is either above a certain number of runners or below a certain number...
on a busy day where races over lap, I go through guardian and delete the races that I have no interest in (this way the gaps between races gets bigger and i dont miss anything)...
Well I created a simple rule that places a lay bet at 1.01 on each market way in advance..Now all i have to do is to look down Guardian and by the number of unmatched bets I can see instantly how many runners there are in each race, saves a fair bit if time..

Expect you could something similar on the vol traded etc etc..
regards
Peter

[malky]

Relative Odds Rule - but not as we know it

Is it possible to back the favourite if it's odds are X number of ticks less than the 2nd fav ?

For example back favourite if 20 ticks less than the next closest runner.

[1sbro]

First off love it! I'd used BetAngel before well over a year ago, and used other software since, but after seeing the videos I thought yea why not, and damn, the other software has already been uninstalled!!

Though only thing I ask, can we get it added so that I can add more than one set of rules so that they don't clash?

And..

Be able to select more than one selection, for like trading first and second favs etc..

Cheers
Jay
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[Bet Angel]

Though only thing I ask, can we get it added so that I can add more than one set of rules so that they don't clash?

And..

Be able to select more than one selection, for like trading first and second favs etc..

Thanks for the feedback.

Not sure what you mean here as you can already trade more than one selection at the same time, you simply add another rule in the rules file. So you can say, do this on runner one, this on runner two etc. etc.

You can only apply one rule file to a market but it could have many individual rules within it.

[1sbro]

Ahh ok, I'll have to have a bit more of a fiddle, though now you've said it, it makes perfect sense.

Hmm I've just thought about how to explain about the two rules clashing, but can't seem to word it right so I'll give up on that one, but cheers for the other thing

Jay

[1sbro]

Though basically, it would be two different sets of rules on the same house, so you could trade the trends going up and trade it going down.

Wasn't sure if I could have the different sets of rules under one rule files without them clashing?

If that makes more sense.. lol

Jay

[Bet Angel]

You can apply rules doing opposite things but you will need to think through the logic so you can apply both at the same time in the same rules file in a mutually exclusive manner. But it's perfectly possible.

[chipping]

i have created quite a few rules, and now I need to be able to manage all the rules that I have. I thought there would be an option to delete a rule but I can't seem to find anything?

[Bet Angel]

Select the rules file you want to delete. Open it to ensure it is the one you actually want to delete, them click on the red X to delete it.

[chipping]

easy when you know how - thanks for that

[chipping]

I have a question about the Greening function in Advanced Automation. At the moment I issue a "Green All" command with 30 secs to go before the horse race starts. I allow this command to fire three times with a 5 seconds delay between attempts. This is what I am finding...

If my trade is profitable the Green All works fine - but if my trade has ended up in the red then I get something unexpected. This is what I think is happening. The first GreenAll request goes in, but my selection is drifting so it doesn't get matched immediately, then 5 seconds later my second GreenAll request goes in. Unlike the main BA (I think) these GreenAll request do not cancel all unmatched bets so I end up with two GreenAll requests sitting in my unmatched bets queue - eventually they both get matched but I end up effectively laying the horse I have just traded on.

I have now amended my GreenAll trigger to only fire once and everything seems to be fine, but I thought I would air this behaviour and please correct my theory so as not to mislead others

[mister man]

i found that to be the case too, to my cost...

although the beta releases are making the tool better each time, its got a fair few teething problems.

[Bet Angel]

We have not seen or been able to replicate any of the problems with greening that you are seeing. If you see the problem again then please send us the rules file you are using and a copy of the log. The log will tell us what it did, the rules file what you are trying to do.

We ran a simple script from Friday to Sunday on the horse racing and it never failed once, so we need to understand how to re-create what you are seeing.

[mikelenard]

Absolutely marvellous the new liability stake option, and thanks for implementing that so quickly.

On another note, and it may have been mentioned already, but I have managed to replicate a problem I had already brought up here, but thought it had been my mistake.

Here is what happens:
I want to place a lay bet 30 minutes after the game has started, so I use the "Relative to in-play time" option. However, if I use the Automation tool once the game has gone in-play the 30 minutes will start from the time I entered. For example's sake, let's say I want to get involved and 15 minutes of the game has elapsed; my lay bet will then be placed 30 minutes after the 15 minutes that I turned on the Automation meaning the actual lay bet will be placed after 45 minutes of the game.

It's ok now I've figured the problem out, and means I will have to make sure I set up my Automation before the game goes in-play, but it is something to consider for other members.

Mike

[chipping]

I tried using a stop loss today in my automation rules, but nothing fired.

Here is an extract from my log file
08/12/2011 15:22:08: Market changed to Hunt 8th Dec - 15:30 2m NHF
08/12/2011 15:22:52: £ 2 Lay bet placed on Dorceus at 7.4. Fully matched at 7.4. Ref: 17444042607 ( Offsetting by 25 ticks. Stop at 0 ticks. Place stop at 0 ticks. )
08/12/2011 15:22:52: £ 2 Back bet placed on Dorceus at 16. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 17444042708
08/12/2011 15:25:01: £ 2 Back bet placed on Well Mett at 8.8. Fully matched at 8.8. Ref: 17444075079 ( Offsetting by 25 ticks. Stop at 0 ticks. Place stop at 0 ticks. )
08/12/2011 15:25:01: £ 2 Lay bet placed on Well Mett at 4.9. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 17444075162
08/12/2011 15:26:00: £ 2 Lay bet placed on Amalric at 5.6. Fully matched at 5.6. Ref: 17444092922 ( Offsetting by 25 ticks. Stop at 0 ticks. Place stop at 0 ticks. )
08/12/2011 15:26:00: £ 2 Back bet placed on Amalric at 10.5. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 17444092961
08/12/2011 15:26:15: £ 2 Back bet placed on Wild Card at 9.8. Fully matched at 9.8. Ref: 17444096718 ( Offsetting by 25 ticks. Stop at 0 ticks. Place stop at 0 ticks. )
08/12/2011 15:26:15: £ 2 Lay bet placed on Wild Card at 5.4. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 17444096758
08/12/2011 15:26:53: £ 2 Back bet placed on Go Set Go at 9.8. Fully matched at 9.8. Ref: 17444108785 ( Offsetting by 25 ticks. Stop at 0 ticks. Place stop at 0 ticks. )
08/12/2011 15:26:54: £ 2 Lay bet placed on Go Set Go at 5.4. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 17444108873
08/12/2011 15:27:49: Cancelling bets 17444042708 17444075162 17444092961 17444096758 17444108873
08/12/2011 15:28:59: Greened up Well Mett by Laying 2.05 at 8.6
08/12/2011 15:28:59: Greened up Dorceus by Backing 2.18 at 6.8
08/12/2011 15:28:59: Greened up Wild Card by Laying 2.28 at 8.6
08/12/2011 15:29:00: Greened up Go Set Go by Laying 1.57 at 12.5
08/12/2011 15:29:00: Greened up Amalric by Backing 1.87 at 6
08/12/2011 15:32:44: Market has been suspended
08/12/2011 15:32:45: Market is in-play

I didn't set the stop loss to fire at zero, I set it to fire at 6, placing at 10