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uksoundz wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:22 pm
Thanks can it work on individual dogs too, so amount matched on a particular runner?
Yes you can select market or selection from the drop list options
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Great thanks. Would love to know if anyone has managed to create some rules and conditions to make this profitable.

Dallas in your view is it worth me exploring excel as well as guardian? Haven't seen much in the way of advice on this.
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uksoundz wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:25 pm
Great thanks. Would love to know if anyone has managed to create some rules and conditions to make this profitable.

Dallas in your view is it worth me exploring excel as well as guardian? Haven't seen much in the way of advice on this.
Excel gives you greater flexibility than advanced automation but the later is slightly faster and requires less resources from your PC.
Its certainly worth looking at if you need/want to do something thats not possible in AA
DaveJessop
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Hi guys - been playing around with this for the last couple of days and find that the original trap 1 and 2 works a lot better than changing to 1st and 2nd fav but do have a couple of questions.

How do I create a rule that ignores the favourite if it is T1 or T2 and just places the bets on the remaining selection?

Can I add an extra greening rule to fire before the last one at 10 seconds (to take a green over 20% then stop the bot) and if that doesn't trigger then wait until the final green up?
Henry_Jacobs
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Did anyone actually have any success with this in any fashion short or long term?

Have tried this along with variations and rarely delivers profit.
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Henry_Jacobs wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:44 pm
Did anyone actually have any success with this in any fashion short or long term?

Have tried this along with variations and rarely delivers profit.
Yes with modifications and being selective on markets.

You cant just load up all a days greyhound markets and expect it to be profitable on all of them.

Apart from the modifications then look for competitive races where there is no clear favourite.
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Hi, appreciate the BOT, enjoying playing around with it.

More of a general question but I have been running it in practice mode over several different races across the day and am wondering if there is a way to look back through the data on closed events/markets to help me narrow down the properties of an event that makes the bot profitable and not profitable - eg. volume matched, price fluctuation graphs of favourites and market prices etc.

Might be a rookie question but appreciate any help! cheers
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HBSlobom wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:23 am
Hi, appreciate the BOT, enjoying playing around with it.

More of a general question but I have been running it in practice mode over several different races across the day and am wondering if there is a way to look back through the data on closed events/markets to help me narrow down the properties of an event that makes the bot profitable and not profitable - eg. volume matched, price fluctuation graphs of favourites and market prices etc.

Might be a rookie question but appreciate any help! cheers
Ifs its a way to keep track of the daily P/Ls the following two links should help
viewtopic.php?f=47&t=11349
viewtopic.php?f=54&t=12327

Should you wish to analyse your results further there are more sheets available for download here
viewforum.php?f=60
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after a lay bet has been matched, the back bet appears waiting to be matched but after some time it disappears or it appears again at another price ( I know its kill or fill ) and the second time it disappears it does not appear again and remains with open bet the cycle is not completed there the log to see if something is wrong or if I am the one who is wrong

LOG

19/03/2020 20:18:23: Market changed to Yarm 19th Mar - 20:23 A2 462m
19/03/2020 20:19:22: [G_Auto] : £ 1.00 Back bet placed on 4. Bon Accord at 3.45. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 198568446254 ( Fill or kill bet with 10 seconds delay. )
19/03/2020 20:19:23: [G_Auto] : £ 1.00 Lay bet placed on 4. Bon Accord at 3.3. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 198568446399 ( Fill or kill bet with 10 seconds delay. )
19/03/2020 20:19:25: [G_Auto] : £ 1 of unmatched bet (Ref:198568446254) was filled before remainder was killed.
19/03/2020 20:19:32: [G_Auto] : £ 1 of unmatched bet (Ref:198568446399) was filled before remainder was killed.
19/03/2020 20:20:11: [G_Auto] : £ 1.00 Back bet placed on 5. Hour Glasscurtis at 3.85. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 198568482017 ( Fill or kill bet with 10 seconds delay. )
19/03/2020 20:20:11: [G_Auto] : £ 1.00 Lay bet placed on 5. Hour Glasscurtis at 3.7. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 198568482239 ( Fill or kill bet with 10 seconds delay. )
19/03/2020 20:20:11: [G_Auto] : £ 1 of unmatched bet (Ref:198568482017) was filled before remainder was killed.
19/03/2020 20:20:21: [G_Auto] : £ 1 unmatched bet (Ref:198568482239) was killed.
19/03/2020 20:21:06: [G_Auto] : £ 1.00 Lay bet placed on 5. Hour Glasscurtis at 4.5. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 198568525318 ( Fill or kill bet with 10 seconds delay. )
19/03/2020 20:21:17: [G_Auto] : £ 1 unmatched bet (Ref:198568525318) was killed.
19/03/2020 20:22:50: [G_Auto] : Greened up 4. Bon Accord by Laying 0.04 at 3.45
19/03/2020 20:22:50: [G_Auto] : Greened up 5. Hour Glasscurtis by Laying 0.48 at 8
19/03/2020 20:23:20: Market has been suspended

here just tried to put 2 lay bets and after that the boot only made green all
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murdok wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:33 pm
after a lay bet has been matched, the back bet appears waiting to be matched but after some time it disappears or it appears again at another price ( I know its kill or fill ) and the second time it disappears it does not appear again and remains with open bet the cycle is not completed there the log to see if something is wrong or if I am the one who is wrong

LOG

19/03/2020 20:18:23: Market changed to Yarm 19th Mar - 20:23 A2 462m
19/03/2020 20:19:22: [G_Auto] : £ 1.00 Back bet placed on 4. Bon Accord at 3.45. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 198568446254 ( Fill or kill bet with 10 seconds delay. )
19/03/2020 20:19:23: [G_Auto] : £ 1.00 Lay bet placed on 4. Bon Accord at 3.3. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 198568446399 ( Fill or kill bet with 10 seconds delay. )
19/03/2020 20:19:25: [G_Auto] : £ 1 of unmatched bet (Ref:198568446254) was filled before remainder was killed.
19/03/2020 20:19:32: [G_Auto] : £ 1 of unmatched bet (Ref:198568446399) was filled before remainder was killed.
19/03/2020 20:20:11: [G_Auto] : £ 1.00 Back bet placed on 5. Hour Glasscurtis at 3.85. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 198568482017 ( Fill or kill bet with 10 seconds delay. )
19/03/2020 20:20:11: [G_Auto] : £ 1.00 Lay bet placed on 5. Hour Glasscurtis at 3.7. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 198568482239 ( Fill or kill bet with 10 seconds delay. )
19/03/2020 20:20:11: [G_Auto] : £ 1 of unmatched bet (Ref:198568482017) was filled before remainder was killed.
19/03/2020 20:20:21: [G_Auto] : £ 1 unmatched bet (Ref:198568482239) was killed.
19/03/2020 20:21:06: [G_Auto] : £ 1.00 Lay bet placed on 5. Hour Glasscurtis at 4.5. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 198568525318 ( Fill or kill bet with 10 seconds delay. )
19/03/2020 20:21:17: [G_Auto] : £ 1 unmatched bet (Ref:198568525318) was killed.
19/03/2020 20:22:50: [G_Auto] : Greened up 4. Bon Accord by Laying 0.04 at 3.45
19/03/2020 20:22:50: [G_Auto] : Greened up 5. Hour Glasscurtis by Laying 0.48 at 8
19/03/2020 20:23:20: Market has been suspended

here just tried to put 2 lay bets and after that the boot only made green all
potentially, the issue is related to Betfair minimum bets. £10 for lay and £2 for back. If you place bets below those minimums, then it requires a couple of other bets to be placed behind the scenes to stay inside the BF rules... just a guess
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jimibt wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:47 pm

potentially, the issue is related to Betfair minimum bets. £10 for lay and £2 for back. If you place bets below those minimums, then it requires a couple of other bets to be placed behind the scenes to stay inside the BF rules... just a guess

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19/03/2020 20:52:05: Market changed to Monm 19th Mar - 20:57 A4 480m
19/03/2020 20:53:00: [G_Auto] : £ 2.00 Lay bet placed on 4. Carranna Storm at 4.4. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 198569598975 ( Fill or kill bet with 10 seconds delay. )
19/03/2020 20:53:00: [G_Auto] : £ 2.00 Lay bet placed on 6. Leahys Dakota at 4.5. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 198569598973 ( Fill or kill bet with 10 seconds delay. )
19/03/2020 20:53:00: [G_Auto] : £ 2.00 Back bet placed on 6. Leahys Dakota at 4.8. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 198569598976 ( Fill or kill bet with 10 seconds delay. )
19/03/2020 20:53:00: [G_Auto] : £ 2.00 Back bet placed on 4. Carranna Storm at 4.8. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 198569598972 ( Fill or kill bet with 10 seconds delay. )
19/03/2020 20:53:02: [G_Auto] : £ 2 of unmatched bet (Ref:198569598975) was filled before remainder was killed.
19/03/2020 20:53:03: [G_Auto] : £ 2 of unmatched bet (Ref:198569598976) was filled before remainder was killed.
19/03/2020 20:53:10: [G_Auto] : £ 2 unmatched bet (Ref:198569598972) was killed.
19/03/2020 20:53:10: [G_Auto] : £ 2 unmatched bet (Ref:198569598973) was killed.
19/03/2020 20:53:13: [G_Auto] : £ 2.00 Lay bet placed on 6. Leahys Dakota at 4.5. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 198569607845 ( Fill or kill bet with 10 seconds delay. )
19/03/2020 20:53:24: [G_Auto] : £ 2 unmatched bet (Ref:198569607845) was killed.
19/03/2020 20:53:35: [G_Auto] : £ 2.00 Back bet placed on 2. Ashgrove Magic at 5. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 198569619906 ( Fill or kill bet with 10 seconds delay. )
19/03/2020 20:53:35: [G_Auto] : £ 2.00 Lay bet placed on 2. Ashgrove Magic at 4.5. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 198569619907 ( Fill or kill bet with 10 seconds delay. )
19/03/2020 20:53:39: [G_Auto] : £ 2.00 Back bet placed on 4. Carranna Storm at 3.95. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 198569620796 ( Fill or kill bet with 10 seconds delay. )
19/03/2020 20:53:45: [G_Auto] : £ 2 unmatched bet (Ref:198569619907) was killed.
19/03/2020 20:53:45: [G_Auto] : £ 2 unmatched bet (Ref:198569619906) was killed.
19/03/2020 20:53:46: [G_Auto] : £ 2.00 Back bet placed on 2. Ashgrove Magic at 5. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 198569623250 ( Fill or kill bet with 10 seconds delay. )
19/03/2020 20:53:46: [G_Auto] : £ 2.00 Lay bet placed on 2. Ashgrove Magic at 4.6. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 198569623251 ( Fill or kill bet with 10 seconds delay. )
19/03/2020 20:53:49: [G_Auto] : £ 2 unmatched bet (Ref:198569620796) was killed.
19/03/2020 20:53:51: [G_Auto] : £ 2.00 Back bet placed on 4. Carranna Storm at 3.35. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 198569624460 ( Fill or kill bet with 10 seconds delay. )
19/03/2020 20:53:51: [G_Auto] : £ 2 of unmatched bet (Ref:198569623250) was filled before remainder was killed.
19/03/2020 20:53:51: [G_Auto] : £ 2 of unmatched bet (Ref:198569624460) was filled before remainder was killed.
19/03/2020 20:53:57: [G_Auto] : £ 2 unmatched bet (Ref:198569623251) was killed.
19/03/2020 20:54:05: [G_Auto] : £ 2.00 Lay bet placed on 2. Ashgrove Magic at 4.6. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 198569630572 ( Fill or kill bet with 10 seconds delay. )
19/03/2020 20:54:08: [G_Auto] : £ 2 of unmatched bet (Ref:198569630572) was filled before remainder was killed.
19/03/2020 20:56:50: [G_Auto] : Greened up 4. Carranna Storm by Backing 0.53 at 4
19/03/2020 20:56:50: [G_Auto] : Greened up 2. Ashgrove Magic by Laying 0.14 at 5.7
19/03/2020 20:56:50: [G_Auto] : Greened up 6. Leahys Dakota by Laying 1.50 at 6.4
19/03/2020 20:57:17: Market has been suspended
I switched to a £ 2 stake and it remains the same

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britguy
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Hi

I currently havent got BetAngel to try this out so struggling to totally understand what the original bot will do.

I understand it initially places a lay bet and a back bet in the gap. There will be fair chance of one bet being matched and then the price heads off in one direction leaving the other bet totally unmatched. Presumably that unmatched bet will cancel when the 10 second fill/kill period elapses ? If that is the way the bot works that will accumulate a fairly nasty loss until the point where it tries to green up for a loss.

Also what happens when the fill kill triggers and cancels the one unmatched bet ? There are now no unmatched bets in the market, so will the bot run again and place a new back and a new lay bet in the gap if a gap is still present ?

Thanks for any clarification
JonesP
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Hi how do I make this bot continue to bet for me after 4 matches?
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JonesP wrote:
Fri Jun 10, 2022 3:40 am
Hi how do I make this bot continue to bet for me after 4 matches?
Just increase the number of times the rule can trigger on the 'General' Tab of the settings
rayb
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hi , just tried this program being a newbie not sure what im doing ?
but on another subject i've been using the lay bot described on you tube £10 liability lay fav. above 3 under 10 ,
i find it works well in the australian markets not english ,
so the question here is do you or other users know if a condition can be added to only trigger a lay if the second fav. is below a certain odds range .
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