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mcgoo
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Sat Sep 16, 2017 7:09 am

I love the challenge of developing baf files. The unknown and thought of a possible winning bot draws me to the flame :) Unfortunately I have not had consistent success on horses or dogs(tennis is reasonable so far) and get burnt fingers now an again (never code and beer) :twisted: :D Anyway, thought someone might like to get some ideas (or at least a few chuckles)from this one-you will note that I pilfered a few ideas from Dallas-thanks Dallas .Anyway-hope this helps someone to point to profit.
PS: Mentioned this before but being able to record the price you matched at so you can track + or - ticks from where you got a match seems to make sense to me as a future update to Bet Angel. happy botting.... :geek:
PPS:Any suggestions or pointers welcome.Tunnel vision-it's a thing
Might post a few more if there is interest....
Scalp_Runner_Trail1.baf
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Sat Sep 16, 2017 9:38 am

Hi,

(Disclaimer - Baf files are a major leak in my life // they are a sheer waste of my time, and do not provide any ROI) - but similarly to u, like the puzzles, when I have the time, which alas, isnt often).

Having looked at the baf file, it seems a random attempt to back selection and try scalp from there. I would try and add some pre-conditions, like consider if the selection was say, drifting or shortening, over the last 4 mins, and had passed thru any key resistance or support levels.

I would also consider, that much heavy artilery has been loaded, against the fav in each race (bot wise), so, maybe, pick, maybe, the 5th or 6th in the betting, which, might get less liquidity, but, is easier to profit from.

As a general note : I am always thinking of defense.

If u back a selection, and, another gets withdrawn, the price u lay back at, will be much less, in a reformed market, and will cause your scalp, to give a loss. How do u protect, when the mkt is suspended, and the number of runners is changed ?

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mcgoo
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Sat Sep 16, 2017 9:56 am

Thanks for that reply. I guess it is a bot that looks for a steamer+bounce(I saw how it made about $15 on one race which moved in a favourable pattern)-but attempts to limit risk/loss.I hadn't taken reduction factors into account...interesting thought. This stuff breaks my little brain.I'll share more.It prompts thought.Thanks again :ugeek:

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mcgoo
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Sat Sep 16, 2017 10:32 am

Agree with the leaking.Similar sentiment here.This one loses like a lone wildebeest on a savannah full of starving lion :shock: :o but here it is as an exercise anyway
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Sat Sep 16, 2017 10:50 am

PPPS: Every time I hear PW say..did you see that big order come through there? ..or there is a lot of backing activity..I hear Volume % change on a runner.It might be my small brain but how is it volume % change on a runner is not trackable in BA yet? Have I missed something?

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mcgoo
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Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:05 am

If that last trade via bot don't sum it up..rinse and repeat..sheesh..moved from 2.90 to 4.2 in a a nanosecond (less than 3 secs) and never came back. :roll: :?: :?: :?: :oops: :?
Greyhound Racing / Trar (AUS) 18th Sep : R11 395m Gr6 18-Sep-17 18:58 18-Sep-17 18:59 -4.37
Greyhound Racing / Bath (AUS) 18th Sep : R11 307m Gr5 18-Sep-17 18:52 18-Sep-17 18:53 -0.30
Greyhound Racing / Nort (AUS) 18th Sep : R10 297m FFA 18-Sep-17 18:49 18-Sep-17 18:50 0.36
Greyhound Racing / APrk (AUS) 18th Sep : R1 520m Nvce 18-Sep-17 18:46 18-Sep-17 18:47 1.34
Greyhound Racing / Trar (AUS) 18th Sep : R10 315m Gr6 18-Sep-17 18:40 18-Sep-17 18:42 0.42
Greyhound Racing / AnPk (AUS) 18th Sep : R1 515m Gr5 18-Sep-17 18:33 18-Sep-17 18:34 0.26
Greyhound Racing / Bath (AUS) 18th Sep : R10 450m Gr5 18-Sep-17 18:30 18-Sep-17 18:31 0.01
Greyhound Racing / Nort (AUS) 18th Sep : R9 509m Heat 18-Sep-17 18:27 18-Sep-17 18:28 0.00
Greyhound Racing / Nowr (AUS) 18th Sep : R1 365m Mdn 18-Sep-17 18:19 18-Sep-17 18:20 -0.55
Greyhound Racing / Trar (AUS) 18th Sep : R9 315m Gr7 18-Sep-17 18:16 18-Sep-17 18:17 0.82
Greyhound Racing / Bath (AUS) 18th Sep : R9 307m Gr5 18-Sep-17 18:12 18-Sep-17 18:13 0.12
Greyhound Racing / Nort (AUS) 18th Sep : R8 509m Heat 18-Sep-17 18:04 18-Sep-17 18:05 0.44
Greyhound Racing / Trar (AUS) 18th Sep : R8 525m Gr5 18-Sep-17 18:00 18-Sep-17 18:01 0.92
Greyhound Racing / Bath (AUS) 18th Sep : R8 520m Gr5 18-Sep-17 17:52 18-Sep-17 17:53 -0.97
Greyhound Racing / Nort (AUS) 18th Sep : R7 509m Heat 18-Sep-17 17:44 18-Sep-17 17:46 0.54
Greyhound Racing / Trar (AUS) 18th Sep : R7 395m Gr5 18-Sep-17 17:40 18-Sep-17 17:41 0.28

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Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:16 am

Well still not the best but slight improvement in consistency then work on profit..30 bets..all automated..gotta iron out those big losses...sample below...inches :D :geek:

Greyhound Racing / Ball (AUS) 27th Sep : R1 390m Mdn 27-Sep-17 18:58 27-Sep-17 18:59 0.03
Greyhound Racing / Rich (AUS) 27th Sep : R11 400m Gr5 27-Sep-17 18:27 27-Sep-17 18:27 0.48
Greyhound Racing / APrk (AUS) 27th Sep : R9 395m Final 27-Sep-17 18:19 27-Sep-17 18:20 0.06
Greyhound Racing / Bend (AUS) 27th Sep : R12 425m Gr5 27-Sep-17 18:07 27-Sep-17 18:08 0.25
Greyhound Racing / Bend (AUS) 27th Sep : R11 425m Gr5 27-Sep-17 17:51 27-Sep-17 17:55 0.00
Greyhound Racing / Rich (AUS) 27th Sep : R9 400m Gr5 27-Sep-17 17:43 27-Sep-17 17:44 -1.36
Greyhound Racing / Rich (AUS) 27th Sep : R8 535m Gr4/5 27-Sep-17 17:24 27-Sep-17 17:25 0.07
Greyhound Racing / APrk (AUS) 27th Sep : R6 395m Gr4/5 27-Sep-17 17:17 27-Sep-17 17:18 -0.05
Greyhound Racing / APrk (AUS) 27th Sep : R5 395m Gr5 27-Sep-17 16:52 27-Sep-17 16:53 0.03
Greyhound Racing / Bend (AUS) 27th Sep : R8 425m Gr5 27-Sep-17 16:49 27-Sep-17 16:50 -0.30
Greyhound Racing / APrk (AUS) 27th Sep : R4 395m Nvce 27-Sep-17 16:35 27-Sep-17 16:36 0.23
Greyhound Racing / APrk (AUS) 27th Sep : R3 395m Nvce 27-Sep-17 16:17 27-Sep-17 16:18 -0.45
Greyhound Racing / Bend (AUS) 27th Sep : R6 500m Gr5 27-Sep-17 16:14 27-Sep-17 16:15 0.00
Greyhound Racing / APrk (AUS) 27th Sep : R2 395m Final 27-Sep-17 16:00 27-Sep-17 16:01 -0.09
Greyhound Racing / Rich (AUS) 27th Sep : R3 400m Heat 27-Sep-17 15:52 27-Sep-17 15:53 -0.14
Greyhound Racing / APrk (AUS) 27th Sep : R1 395m Mdn 27-Sep-17 15:42 27-Sep-17 15:43 -0.01
Greyhound Racing / Mead (AUS) 27th Sep : R12 525m Heat 27-Sep-17 15:25 27-Sep-17 15:26 0.01
Greyhound Racing / Bend (AUS) 27th Sep : R3 500m Gr7 27-Sep-17 15:22 27-Sep-17 15:23 -0.07
Greyhound Racing / Rich (AUS) 27th Sep : R1 330m Gr5 27-Sep-17 15:12 27-Sep-17 15:12 -0.08
Greyhound Racing / Mead (AUS) 27th Sep : R11 525m Heat 27-Sep-17 15:07 27-Sep-17 15:09 -0.45

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mcgoo
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Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:18 am

There's better :D :shock: :shock: :D
Greyhound Racing: AUD0.77 | Horse Racing: AUD1.76 Total P&L: AUD2.53

I'll quit while I am ahead and not bother the crowd re update this thread anymore..but small victory..first time ever.20 trades over 4 hours all automated...Beer o clock :mrgreen:
thanks to you lot for all the help and guidance.Nice to have a small win
Off to try and improve me tennis bot

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mcgoo
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Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:30 am

Ok, one more :)

So, the day after my last post I got caught by ye olde suspend greyhound market 30 secs before the off..what the hell is that!!!???..just after the bot had placed an opening bet for $10.Fortunately I was watching and saw it happen.The initial bet being a lay bet and the pooch won..of course :oops: :shock: :?-lose $9.4 .I re-sync'd my clock but from reading forum posts here this happens from time to time-but sucks big time.Reliability much!
Today, after settling my mind a bit..I re-ran the bot...mostly on horse markets :) but some dogs.All good..made $1 over 5 or 6 races on $10 trades..nice. I walked away for a bit and returned to see a whatif of -$98 or a win of $128 :shock: :shock: :shock: :o .I checked the log and the bot had placed 6 back bets and 2 lay bets for half the amount of the back bets 8-) Especially interesting since one of my baf file conditions is that matched bet amounts should be 0 before acting to avoid this very situation .The dog won but since I was heavily on the back side..winner winner chicken dinner..lucky..on dogs! go figure! I put it down to Australian network latency but not detecting 4 or 5 matches ..must have been one hell of a latency issue.I was only gone for 5 mins too.
I also have a tennis bot running but since appearing profitable it stopped trading soon after ,of course. :P :cry: ..monitoring that one
What a weekend. The tech challenge of writing a profitable bot that works on dogs,horses + Aus & UK and another on tennis is very satisfying to say the least.To be caught by issues beyond control is heartbreaking...life huh,
I think I am going manual..and I SUCK at manual trading...though PW's last video on the in play trader did help a bit..thanks Peter
bleh...reboot

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mcgoo
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Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:59 am

Hehe.Small wins.A $5 day .Sample below. Big satisfaction :D :D :D

Greyhound Racing / WPrk (AUS) 1st Nov : R3 520m Gr5 01-Nov-17 19:47 01-Nov-17 19:48 -0.39
Greyhound Racing / WPrk (AUS) 1st Nov : R1 520m Gr5 01-Nov-17 19:08 01-Nov-17 19:09 0.13
Greyhound Racing / Cran (AUS) 1st Nov : R1 311m Mdn 01-Nov-17 18:51 01-Nov-17 18:52 -0.04
Greyhound Racing / APrk (AUS) 1st Nov : R8 395m FFA 01-Nov-17 18:27 01-Nov-17 18:28 -0.65
Greyhound Racing / Rich (AUS) 1st Nov : R10 400m Gr5 01-Nov-17 18:19 01-Nov-17 18:20 0.00
Greyhound Racing / Hshm (AUS) 1st Nov : R11 410m Gr5 01-Nov-17 17:43 01-Nov-17 17:44 0.00
Greyhound Racing / Rich (AUS) 1st Nov : R8 400m Gr4/5 01-Nov-17 17:35 01-Nov-17 17:36 0.45
Greyhound Racing / APrk (AUS) 1st Nov : R6 395m Heat 01-Nov-17 17:27 01-Nov-17 17:28 0.08
Greyhound Racing / Rich (AUS) 1st Nov : R6 535m Gr4/5 01-Nov-17 16:55 01-Nov-17 16:56 0.49
Greyhound Racing / APrk (AUS) 1st Nov : R4 520m Gr5 01-Nov-17 16:47 01-Nov-17 16:48 0.57
Greyhound Racing / Hshm (AUS) 1st Nov : R8 485m Gr4/5 01-Nov-17 16:44 01-Nov-17 16:45 0.19
Greyhound Racing / Rich (AUS) 1st Nov : R5 618m Rest 01-Nov-17 16:37 01-Nov-17 16:38 0.35
Greyhound Racing / APrk (AUS) 1st Nov : R3 395m Nvce 01-Nov-17 16:27 01-Nov-17 16:28 -0.27
Greyhound Racing / Hshm (AUS) 1st Nov : R7 485m Gr7 01-Nov-17 16:24 01-Nov-17 16:25 0.43
Greyhound Racing / AnPk (AUS) 1st Nov : R12 388m Gr3/4/5 01-Nov-17 16:17 01-Nov-17 16:18 -0.32
Greyhound Racing / APrk (AUS) 1st Nov : R2 395m Heat 01-Nov-17 16:07 01-Nov-17 16:08 0.67
Greyhound Racing / Hshm (AUS) 1st Nov : R6 485m Gr5 01-Nov-17 16:04 01-Nov-17 16:05 0.41
Greyhound Racing / Hshm (AUS) 1st Nov : R5 485m Rest 01-Nov-17 15:44 01-Nov-17 15:45 0.17
Greyhound Racing / AnPk (AUS) 1st Nov : R10 388m Gr6 01-Nov-17 15:37 01-Nov-17 15:38 0.54
Greyhound Racing / Rich (AUS) 1st Nov : R2 400m Final 01-Nov-17 15:34 01-Nov-17 15:35 0.68

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