New version of Bet Angel - Professional - Version 1.40

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A new version of Bet Angel has been released, it is available for download from here: -

http://www.betangel.com/securedownloads/BAP_1_40_0.msi

Key changes are: -

New charting option available from the ladder settings menu. You can now use matchsticks / last traded price chart plots on the ladder.

Improvements to Tennis score feed. We've added error trapping to try and capture mistakes that occur when the odds feed switched incorrectly during a match.

Additional improvements to bet matching and cancellation process.

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to75ne
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Fri May 29, 2015 12:29 pm

all very nice but is there going to be any explanation as to what these sticks mean?, what do they visualize/indicate/predict.

are they just alternative traffic lights, if not how are they suppossed to be used/ interpreted?

what are they for? :?

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Fri May 29, 2015 12:32 pm

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Fri May 29, 2015 1:20 pm

Liking the new upgrade some very useful features so once again well done to all at BA.

I would like to suggest one additional addon to the next upgrade if possible - extending on the newly added "show last traded volume" feature would it also be possible to have the following option

Ladder footer option "Recent traded volume" (similar to recent 3 prices as currently done for "Total bets value") have the last 3 or 5 matched totals as this would give a good indication as to which way the price is moving regardless of how much money is stacked either side of the book waiting to be matched.

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Fri May 29, 2015 4:38 pm

to75ne wrote:all very nice but is there going to be any explanation as to what these sticks mean?, what do they visualize/indicate/predict.

are they just alternative traffic lights, if not how are they suppossed to be used/ interpreted?

what are they for? :?

You may want to ask the question on this thread: -

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=10411

That's where the original request came from.

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Fri May 29, 2015 4:57 pm

Euler wrote:
to75ne wrote:all very nice but is there going to be any explanation as to what these sticks mean?, what do they visualize/indicate/predict.

are they just alternative traffic lights, if not how are they suppossed to be used/ interpreted?

what are they for? :?

You may want to ask the question on this thread: -

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=10411

That's where the original request came from.
i did ask on that thread sometime ago but no answer/explanation.

i have had a look at these sticks this afternoon and they just seem plot a red stick if the latest price matched is higher and a green one if the traded price is lower, and nothing plotted if the ltp is the same.
they just seem to follow the red and green traffic lights but ignoring the yellow one.

so i assume the length/thickness as no significance?

also they would appear to plot the same plot as the micro charts on the 1 tick screen, but drawn with a very thick pen or magic marker.

they seem to me to be a low resolution micro chart.

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Sun May 31, 2015 10:48 pm

They key to my request for this feature was the need I have for it in my trading. If you don't see how its useful, then I would hazard a guess it won't be of any use to you, as with many features in this heavy bit of software, it caters to many but much of it is optional. for me, having this instant notification of what direction other ladders are moving is essential. having said that, I haven't seen the update yet and by the sound of your description it doesn't sound quite what I was hoping for but I will wait and see on that score.

I think the main point here is that just because it is a new feature, it isn't a compulsory one. Like many features, you can take it or leave it. If your trading doesn't require it, you don't need to worry about how to use it. Its there if needed, not to create a new need, at least that's my view.

You said you didn't get any explanation on the other thread, I explained why I wanted it and how I made use of it as part of my request. That's about all i can say, it helps me spot a turn around on another ladder to exit my trade, or to open a new trade.

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Mon Jun 01, 2015 7:40 am

Unsure about the matchsticks , interms of how useful will really be , but do like the fact you can see the volume flash on LTP , gives an easier indication of where the weight of money is.

Personally I wish I could track the volume by indvidual price in totalas indicated on the ladder , as could use this with Excel to capture and monitor increases , as and when required.

Charlie

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Mon Jun 01, 2015 8:29 am

Bet Angel wrote: Additional improvements to bet matching and cancellation process.
Could you expand on this? I was having trouble with fill or kill and offsetting not always operating as they should. Was there a problem recognised in this area?

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Wyndon wrote:Could you expand on this? I was having trouble with fill or kill and offsetting not always operating as they should. Was there a problem recognised in this area?
We were never able to recreate any faults, but have had a few similar queries into support over the last month which may suggest that either sometimes the betfair API is failing to cancel bets (perhaps 1 in 1000 requests), or that it is misreporting how much has been matched during the cancellation process.

We have made changes to re-send the cancellation request when we get a meaningful error back from betfair (to give the fill or kill a second chance to function as expected) and also added extra logging to highlight times when the API has failed to report the amount matched before cancellation. So we've made it as bullet-proof as possible from our end, but will wait to see what gets reported in the logs next time a problem arises.

So please go ahead and use this version and let us know how things differ from your previous experiences. If we are able to capture in the logs an occasional point of failure with the API, then we'll be able to highlight it to betfair for them to fix.

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