New Bet Angel Professional Beta 1.37 - API NG

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Re-booted both PC's:

Net Stakes Jake Quickenden (favourite):
302.41 BetFair (before latest re-boot)
127.95 BetAngel-PC1 (before latest re-boot)
73.97 BetAngel-PC2 (before latest re-boot)

Net Stakes Jake Quickenden (favourite):
302.41 BetFair (after latest re-boot)
73.97 BetAngel-PC1(after latest re-boot)
73.97 BetAngel-PC2(after latest re-boot)

GBP 889,323 Matched BetFair (before latest re-boot)
GBP 889,268 Matched BetAngel PC-1 (before latest re-boot)
GBP 889,268 Matched BetAngel PC-2 (before latest re-boot)

GBP 889,553 Matched BetFair (after latest re-boot)
GBP 889,516 Matched BetAngel PC-1 (after latest re-boot)
GBP 889,516 Matched BetAngel PC-2 (after latest re-boot)
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Tuco wrote:Yes I'll do a screenshot late tonight after the market hasd gone quiet
Thanks, if you can send screenshots of all matched bets (from the 'Matched bets' tab of Bet Angel) from both PCs then we'll be able to calculate the correct net stake and hopefully will spot a difference between the two.
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L.T.P. Max Whitlock - SPOTY Winner:
870 BetFair
950 BetAngel-PC1
950 BetAngel-PC2

Has anyone checked theirs yet?
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It's 950 on both the web site and via the API now. Probably just a slow cache somewhere inside betfair, or it could be that the website requires a different bet size to be matched to register as a reportable trade.

The occasional odd Last Traded Price is of much less concern than your two PCs with their variable net stakes. That's the problem we'd like to fully understand if you are able to gather the required bet information.
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It's 950 on both the web site and via the API now. Probably just a slow cache somewhere inside betfair, or it could be that the website requires a different bet size to be matched to register as a reportable trade.
After the SPOTY shortlist was announced a week last Monday, Rory McIlroys LTP price stayed at 1.30 for a full week although thousands were being backed and laid on him up to and into the 1.6's. It was only mid-morning this last Monday that the LTP corrected itself on Rory and a couple of others in the SPOTY market.

870 Max Whitlock (BetFair)
950 Max Whitlock (BetAngel

...is what my browser still shows as it did yesterday. I checked with a couple of other people who also use BetAngel and they also has the same results as me, 870 on BetFair but 950 on BetAngel.
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Please could you send us a screenshot of what you are seeing as we can't escalate this with betfair without one. Where exactly are you seeing the 870 value on betfair?

I've gone on to betfair within a few minutes of your last message and both Bet Angel and betfair show the Last Traded Price as 950. As per screenshot attached.
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I'm seeing exactly the same as you with the exception that the betfair 'Last price matched: 870.00' is what I see which is consistent with the graph which you will notice shows the end of the red line BELOW 900 ie 870.

I have also spoken to others who see the same as I do on BetAngel and not as you do.
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I think we've worked it out. We reckon you're still using betfair's OLD web site.

That is currently showing a Last Traded Price of 870 whereas their new site show's 950. The Total matched on the market is different too. They've probably changed the reporting rules between the two sites. The new site uses the same API as Bet Angel, which is why Bet Angel matches the new site.

So I think we've isolated that problem to something at betfair itself and not a problem with Bet Angel. It's times like this when a screenshot with a problem report is so valuable to us, we'd have been able to spot that you were using the old betfair web site to gather your information.
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as additional info this is what I see on betfiar site without logging 11:53 uk time
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this is from new site 3min later
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Yes I'm using the old betfair site. What is interesting is that BOTH your old and new graphs show the LTP as still being 870, so it appears there is a problem with the new API especially as the LTP on Rory McIlroy did not change on BA for a week (and no doubt not on the new BF site) when thousands were being matched up to and into the 1.6's. A week after the SPOTY shortlist was announced, the LTP eventually corrected itself on Rory, so it is clear and without question that the new API cannot be relied upon for the LTP value.
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It also explains as to why the values on IACGMOOH can be different on each of my two PC's when switched on at different times - both of course still being inaccurate when compared to betfair. The only conclusion is that the new API has bugs and requires updating as this problem did not exist under he old API.
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To conclude, I would summise that the problem lies with the new BetFair API and not with BAP v1.37.5 so if you could speak with and advise Betfair of this problem it will help us all. Many thanks :)
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I trust the API with at millions a week, but don't trust Betfair's web site at all as there are known issues. For example your P&L will differ there due to known errors with rounding which Betfair have not fixed. I trust the API and Bet Angel because I have to shovelling through the money I do.
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please then expalin Peter as to why each of 2 PC's are showing different data results for the IACGMOOH screenshots sent to [email protected] last night. If the new API was stable then the info on each PC would always be the same - they are not the same which suggests BetFairs new API is faulty - if you speak with support they will show you the screenshots. I'm looking at the two PC's right now and the net stakes, one-touch green-up button and P&L trading columns are NOT THE SAME!
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