EU Membership Referendum (Brexit)

[wearthefoxhat]

The one thing EU is overlooking is that we are still in the negotiation stage.

Yes, there was a potential withdrawal agreement (not signed off, yet-rejected 3 time) so they should be looking to adjust accordingly. Of course they had an easy ride with Theresa May, who seemed to more or less give the nod that all will be ok...

Will it suit the EU if there's a No deal, TBH, I don't think it really matters to them either way, so the UK has to accept this is a near certainty and plan accordingly.

What doesn't help is that there are key financial indicators that have been pointing to a global recession, some of them suggest we are already in one.Of course the world could blame Brexit....everyone else does....

[Archangel]

The one thing EU is overlooking is that we are still in the negotiation stage.

They are mainly just perplexed at what is going on in London.

This was supposed to be the easiest part of the negotiations

[vankancisco]

Got to say, I think a socialist government in the UK would be one hell of an exciting proposition. The trick would be not to get too greedy too soon. The old order and establishment should be dismantled bit by bit. Good innovative policy will create a pathway towards it.

Something definitely has to change moving forward long term. I went to visit a friend in the US recently and it's a scary place. They get so many things drastically wrong that it's almost untrue. They seem to actually do the opposite to what most sound minded people would regard as common sense.

[ANGELS15]

Got to say, I think a socialist government in the UK would be one hell of an exciting proposition. The trick would be not to get too greedy too soon. The old order and establishment should be dismantled bit by bit. Good innovative policy will create a pathway towards it.

Something definitely has to change moving forward long term. I went to visit a friend in the US recently and it's a scary place. They get so many things drastically wrong that it's almost untrue. They seem to actually do the opposite to what most sound minded people would regard as common sense.

Please feel free to correct me but aren't the socialist governments the ones that want to curtail the racing/betting industry? I read an article in the racing post a few weeks ago about potential problems facing the future of racing and the betting industry. Mentioned in the article were that certain MPs had the industry firmly in their sights if they were to come to power. Unfortunately I can't remember the names of those MPs and the parties they represent..

[BetBuddy]

Got to say, I think a socialist government in the UK would be one hell of an exciting proposition. The trick would be not to get too greedy too soon. The old order and establishment should be dismantled bit by bit. Good innovative policy will create a pathway towards it.

Something definitely has to change moving forward long term. I went to visit a friend in the US recently and it's a scary place. They get so many things drastically wrong that it's almost untrue. They seem to actually do the opposite to what most sound minded people would regard as common sense.

Please feel free to correct me but aren't the socialist governments the ones that want to curtail the racing/betting industry? I read an article in the racing post a few weeks ago about potential problems facing the future of racing and the betting industry. Mentioned in the article were that certain MPs had the industry firmly in their sights if they were to come to power. Unfortunately I can't remember the names of those MPs and the parties they represent..

Yvette Cooper is one (Labour) and possibly the person that could lead an interim Government if Boris losses a no confidence vote. She has some very dangerous left ideas on the direction the UK should take. I wouldn't let her walk my dog.

[ANGELS15]

Thanks Betbuddy I thought is was labour. They've come a long way from the 90s when one of their top Leaders (can't remember the name) was very supportive of evening opening of betting shops and Sunday racing. There has been a lot of media focus lately on problem gambling and clearly there are a tiny minority of people that have problems, but it's a bit like saying we should ban drinking because there's a tiny minority of people that are alchoholics.

[Dallas]

Thanks Betbuddy I thought is was labour. They've come a long way from the 90s when one of their top Leaders (can't remember the name) was very supportive of evening opening of betting shops and Sunday racing. There has been a lot of media focus lately on problem gambling and clearly there are a tiny minority of people that have problems, but it's a bit like saying we should ban drinking because there's a tiny minority of people that are alchoholics.

Or being allowed to claim legitimate business expenses because a tiny minority of MP's can't control their own spending and abuse that privilege

[BetBuddy]

Thanks Betbuddy I thought is was labour. They've come a long way from the 90s when one of their top Leaders (can't remember the name) was very supportive of evening opening of betting shops and Sunday racing. There has been a lot of media focus lately on problem gambling and clearly there are a tiny minority of people that have problems, but it's a bit like saying we should ban drinking because there's a tiny minority of people that are alchoholics.

When you see these figures though, its rather worrying on how much Alcohol abuse costs, even for a minority.

[spreadbetting]

Health spending was around £129 billion in 2018/19 so I'd consider £2,740M a minority too. You're looking at around 2%, I'd guess the taxes raised from alcohol more than cover it. Obesity costs much more.

[firlandsfarm]

Health spending was around £129 billion in 2018/19 so I'd consider £2,740M a minority too. You're looking at around 2%, I'd guess the taxes raised from alcohol more than cover it. Obesity costs much more.

it might be interesting reading to see a 'league table' of NHS costs by cause or condition.

[Archangel]

The NHS is a fantastic service. Go to other countries and you will pay through the neck for even basic healthcare.
The idea that Brexit or Donald Trump trade deals could effect the NHS , that is scary

[ShaunWhite]

The NHS is a fantastic service. Go to other countries and you will pay through the neck for even basic healthcare.

Regular tax payers pay quite a bit for the NHS via NI, probably more than a BUPA plan. The fact that everything from schools to defence comes scot free to our profession makes that easy to forget.

[firlandsfarm]

The idea that Brexit or Donald Trump trade deals could effect the NHS , that is scary

Nah, every GE campaign Labour tell us how the Conservatives will wreck the NHS but they never do. Project Fear.

[firlandsfarm]

Regular tax payers pay quite a bit for the NHS via NI, probably more than a BUPA plan. The fact that everything from schools to defence comes scot free to our profession makes that easy to forget.

Yep, everything has to be paid for the only difference if the funding route. People see the NHS as free, it's not ... it's free at the point of delivery. It's actually an insured scheme but don't tell Corbyn and co. We all pay our 'insurance premium' through NIC's and other taxes regardless of whether we make a claim (visit the doctor or go to hospital) ... that's an insurance policy!

[BetBuddy]

Having access to the NHS will be big on the US trade agenda. Especially where Baxter International is concerned, there a Fortune 500 company with revenues of $10.6 billion and main focus being Bio-science and Medical products.