US Presidential Election 2020

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jamesg46
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Naffman wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 7:26 am
Seen a few clips of Biden this week and he seems to be getting worse...for someone who's been in politics for over 50 years to get triggered so easily is crazy.

The debates will be hilarious as Biden has shown he'll bite so Trump will make him look a fool
If he is to be made the fool of, the only eyes that will see it are the ones on the right. The same can be said the other way around, Trump is never the fool in the eyes of the right.

The meme below constantly gets posted by Democrats, to prove what I say, go and look how many Democrat politicians were part of the KKK, i don't want to be biased, there were Republicans too but it shows beautifully how tribalism breeds ignorant fools.

Both the Left & the Right have a deep understanding of their base & what fuels their emotions.... the clips, memes, news articles, tweets, blogs, Web pages etc you see are nothing more than a weapon in an information war & that's why we are seeing mass censoring and politicians taking on big tech, its a race to plant a seed.
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jamesg46
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I find this intriguing, if Joe Biden is so popular and Trump is such a bad guy then how do we explain the followers?

Now the comment section would indicate that the left is bigger than the right but the follower count suggests that the right is bigger than the left.

Are masses of the left so bitter that they follow Trump on a huge ratio more than they follow Biden just to abuse him or do the right not exist on the same scale, because if they did, would they not be doing the same to Bidens account (on the same scale)?
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jamesg46 wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 10:55 am
I find this intriguing, if Joe Biden is so popular and Trump is such a bad guy then how do we explain the followers?

Now the comment section would indicate that the left is bigger than the right but the follower count suggests that the right is bigger than the left.

Are masses of the left so bitter that they follow Trump on a huge ratio more than they follow Biden just to abuse him or do the right not exist on the same scale, because if they did, would they not be doing the same to Bidens account (on the same scale)?
Because lots ignorant of people will follow anything that resembles a large t*t?
jamesg46
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sionascaig wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 11:02 am
jamesg46 wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 10:55 am
I find this intriguing, if Joe Biden is so popular and Trump is such a bad guy then how do we explain the followers?

Now the comment section would indicate that the left is bigger than the right but the follower count suggests that the right is bigger than the left.

Are masses of the left so bitter that they follow Trump on a huge ratio more than they follow Biden just to abuse him or do the right not exist on the same scale, because if they did, would they not be doing the same to Bidens account (on the same scale)?
Because lots ignorant of people will follow anything that resembles a large t*t?
Do you mean ignorant people on both sides of the political spectrum or just one side in particular?
sionascaig
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jamesg46 wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 11:19 am
sionascaig wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 11:02 am
jamesg46 wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 10:55 am
I find this intriguing, if Joe Biden is so popular and Trump is such a bad guy then how do we explain the followers?

Now the comment section would indicate that the left is bigger than the right but the follower count suggests that the right is bigger than the left.

Are masses of the left so bitter that they follow Trump on a huge ratio more than they follow Biden just to abuse him or do the right not exist on the same scale, because if they did, would they not be doing the same to Bidens account (on the same scale)?
Because lots ignorant of people will follow anything that resembles a large t*t?
Do you mean ignorant people on both sides of the political spectrum or just one side in particular?
Both (was being a bit facetious though)... Although I really struggle to get Trump I can see why people would follow him just for entertainment value.
jamesg46
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sionascaig wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 11:37 am
jamesg46 wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 11:19 am
sionascaig wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 11:02 am


Because lots ignorant of people will follow anything that resembles a large t*t?
Do you mean ignorant people on both sides of the political spectrum or just one side in particular?
Both (was being a bit facetious though)... Although I really struggle to get Trump I can see why people would follow him just for entertainment value.
Yeah, i can see that people would do that too. I feel its a sad life for those people but I can definitely see people doing that.

I'd suggest though that those people don't account for the 77 million difference.
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I don't understand the obsession with the debates, I don't think they'll have as much of a bearing this time around as they would in a normal election cycle.
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Trader Pat wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 2:11 pm
I don't understand the obsession with the debates, I don't think they'll have as much of a bearing this time around as they would in a normal election cycle.
Because no one is doing rallies so it's really the only chance they get to see them...and 84 million people watched the 1st debate between Trump and Clinton, that's a huge percentage of the population
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Naffman wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 2:19 pm
Trader Pat wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 2:11 pm
I don't understand the obsession with the debates, I don't think they'll have as much of a bearing this time around as they would in a normal election cycle.
Because no one is doing rallies so it's really the only chance they get to see them...and 84 million people watched the 1st debate between Trump and Clinton, that's a huge percentage of the population
Like I said 2016 was a normal election cycle, this isn't. I'd say a lot more people's minds are already made up and while the debates will of course have huge viewing figures I dont think they're going to be as relevant to how people vote.
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Trader Pat wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 2:35 pm
Naffman wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 2:19 pm
Trader Pat wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 2:11 pm
I don't understand the obsession with the debates, I don't think they'll have as much of a bearing this time around as they would in a normal election cycle.
Because no one is doing rallies so it's really the only chance they get to see them...and 84 million people watched the 1st debate between Trump and Clinton, that's a huge percentage of the population
Like I said 2016 was a normal election cycle, this isn't. I'd say a lot more people's minds are already made up and while the debates will of course have huge viewing figures I dont think they're going to be as relevant to how people vote.
People really haven't seen Biden the past few months, yes because if everything but also because his team know the less you see of him the better. When he goes on stage against Trump without any help everyone will see his true colours...like he did to a supporter a few months ago he'll call trump fat and challenge him to some push ups :lol:
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Naffman wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 2:46 pm
Trader Pat wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 2:35 pm
Naffman wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 2:19 pm


Because no one is doing rallies so it's really the only chance they get to see them...and 84 million people watched the 1st debate between Trump and Clinton, that's a huge percentage of the population
Like I said 2016 was a normal election cycle, this isn't. I'd say a lot more people's minds are already made up and while the debates will of course have huge viewing figures I dont think they're going to be as relevant to how people vote.
People really haven't seen Biden the past few months, yes because if everything but also because his team know the less you see of him the better. When he goes on stage against Trump without any help everyone will see his true colours...like he did to a supporter a few months ago he'll call trump fat and challenge him to some push ups :lol:
Republicans already know Biden is error prone because his gaffs and the incident you're talking about has been part of campaign ads against him for months now, and Democrats won't care about his gaffs because they'll still see him as a better alternative to Trump. Like I said nobody on either side is going to learn anything new about Biden or Trump by watching the debates, and the pool of voters who will be swayed by the debates is much smaller than in 2016.
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at the current prices , i would lay Biden and back Trump then close both trades when they even up .
the democrats are running on too many emotional time bombs, with a candidate that has been rejected 2 times before.

how on Earth is trump still in contention?
-catastrophic (bleach drinking) corona tag on him.
every single day a new scandle that would have wiped out any other president !

Trump is a marketing genius, he knows how to keep the media guessing and he gives them value while he gets free publicity. Twiiter, fox news, cnn,...all are beneficiary by design or by default.
He might come accross as unhinged and out of touch, but its a ploy to deliver his message. very simple, secure the boarders and let everyone else mind thier own business. Globalisation is hereby declared a thing of the past and the US is not the custodian of decency. China is the world number two and has far less responsibilities .The latter has greatly benefitted from globalisation in expense of all other G8 countries .Time to put more accountability on the Dragon.

TRump is not a conventional republican as a matter of fact they are campaigning against him, the democrats have failed to impeach him when they had a clear open and close case. they are only looking good because he makes them look so.
corona virus is slowly taking the shape of an economic catastrophy, which is very tightly correlated to border and internal security. The police unions have endorsed trump while the dems are bussy Taking the NRA to court.
the evangelicals and pro lifers are very emotional voters and they will turn up to vote , with or without the corona virus unlike the democrats that wont even allow schools to open.
trump only needs two good weeks of good news and biden will sleep well in his banker. a vaccine or a treatment of corna virus and a bouncing back economy will be enough to take him through the finishing with a TIE break . we shall be heading to the courts , where he has done a good job to fill the judiciary with his own nominess , courtesy of MITCH .Florida all over again.
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decomez6 wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 5:48 pm
at the current prices , i would lay Biden and back Trump then close both trades when they even up .
the democrats are running on too many emotional time bombs, with a candidate that has been rejected 2 times before.

how on Earth is trump still in contention?
-catastrophic (bleach drinking) corona tag on him.
every single day a new scandle that would have wiped out any other president !

Trump is a marketing genius, he knows how to keep the media guessing and he gives them value while he gets free publicity. Twiiter, fox news, cnn,...all are beneficiary by design or by default.
He might come accross as unhinged and out of touch, but its a ploy to deliver his message. very simple, secure the boarders and let everyone else mind thier own business. Globalisation is hereby declared a thing of the past and the US is not the custodian of decency. China is the world number two and has far less responsibilities .The latter has greatly benefitted from globalisation in expense of all other G8 countries .Time to put more accountability on the Dragon.

TRump is not a conventional republican as a matter of fact they are campaigning against him, the democrats have failed to impeach him when they had a clear open and close case. they are only looking good because he makes them look so.
corona virus is slowly taking the shape of an economic catastrophy, which is very tightly correlated to border and internal security. The police unions have endorsed trump while the dems are bussy Taking the NRA to court.
the evangelicals and pro lifers are very emotional voters and they will turn up to vote , with or without the corona virus unlike the democrats that wont even allow schools to open.
trump only needs two good weeks of good news and biden will sleep well in his banker. a vaccine or a treatment of corna virus and a bouncing back economy will be enough to take him through the finishing with a TIE break . we shall be heading to the courts , where he has done a good job to fill the judiciary with his own nominess , courtesy of MITCH .Florida all over again.
Isn't the first part of your reply essentially just the same bet?

The rest of what you've said is way above me, I'm lost, not at any specific part, all of it.

It was easier to understand after reading it a few times. I think my mind gets lost in thought with each line so I got lost a few times within the paragraph.
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jamesg46 wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:30 pm
decomez6 wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 5:48 pm
at the current prices , i would lay Biden and back Trump then close both trades when they even up .
the democrats are running on too many emotional time bombs, with a candidate that has been rejected 2 times before.

how on Earth is trump still in contention?
-catastrophic (bleach drinking) corona tag on him.
every single day a new scandle that would have wiped out any other president !

Trump is a marketing genius, he knows how to keep the media guessing and he gives them value while he gets free publicity. Twiiter, fox news, cnn,...all are beneficiary by design or by default.
He might come accross as unhinged and out of touch, but its a ploy to deliver his message. very simple, secure the boarders and let everyone else mind thier own business. Globalisation is hereby declared a thing of the past and the US is not the custodian of decency. China is the world number two and has far less responsibilities .The latter has greatly benefitted from globalisation in expense of all other G8 countries .Time to put more accountability on the Dragon.

TRump is not a conventional republican as a matter of fact they are campaigning against him, the democrats have failed to impeach him when they had a clear open and close case. they are only looking good because he makes them look so.
corona virus is slowly taking the shape of an economic catastrophy, which is very tightly correlated to border and internal security. The police unions have endorsed trump while the dems are bussy Taking the NRA to court.
the evangelicals and pro lifers are very emotional voters and they will turn up to vote , with or without the corona virus unlike the democrats that wont even allow schools to open.
trump only needs two good weeks of good news and biden will sleep well in his banker. a vaccine or a treatment of corna virus and a bouncing back economy will be enough to take him through the finishing with a TIE break . we shall be heading to the courts , where he has done a good job to fill the judiciary with his own nominess , courtesy of MITCH .Florida all over again.
Isn't the first part of your reply essentially just the same bet?

The rest of what you've said is way above me, I'm lost, not at any specific part, all of it.

It was easier to understand after reading it a few times. I think my mind gets lost in thought with each line so I got lost a few times within the paragraph.
If you

LAY joe Biden At the current Of 1.7...
And BACK Trump at The current about 2.6
At a certain point joe will start loosing momentum and his price will drift out And trump’s price will shorten .
There will be a point where both prices share a meeting/ crossing point eg 2.0. , I would then cash out here and re evaluate.
Remember anything can happen, Hilary Clinton is Not fully ruled out. It is possible for joe to vacate The race due to unforeseen circumstances .

bare with me , I tend to write in bullet points . A bad habit from writing short notes and skipping my grammar lessons. I feel my thought process is always ahead of my writing skills. Appreciate the Observation.
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the market expect a trump comeback for whatever reason, polls/forecasts as they are now on election day hes nowhere near 2,7, for me its a lay now and probably trade out on election day
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