US Presidential Election 2020

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Aarondewit wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:10 am
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Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:48 am
As usual, a powerful speech from Barack Obama.
He's the best orator I've ever seen. Amazing the contrast with Trump. Just a shame it's mostly pointless guff; just like his presidency.
I've listened to a quite a few speeches from this list - https://www.americanrhetoric.com/top100speechesall.html

And I'm always drawn to these two from Ronnie:
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Well over those 4 days did the Democrats actually come up with any policies or was it 'vote for us cos we're not trump'...embarrassing.
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Naffman wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 8:27 am
Well over those 4 days did the Democrats actually come up with any policies or was it 'vote for us cos we're not trump'...embarrassing.
it's not a bad argument tbh
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Naffman wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 8:27 am
Well over those 4 days did the Democrats actually come up with any policies or was it 'vote for us cos we're not trump'...embarrassing.
If half the electorate don't really agree with your policies why remind them of it when you have something else that you can agree with them on.
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Jukebox wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:07 am
Naffman wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 8:27 am
Well over those 4 days did the Democrats actually come up with any policies or was it 'vote for us cos we're not trump'...embarrassing.
If half the electorate don't really agree with your policies why remind them of it when you have something else that you can agree with them on.
Didn't work in 2016 though, seems they are going for the same approach
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Naffman wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:45 am
Didn't work in 2016 though, seems they are going for the same approach
In fairness Biden should just stand there and say 'Vote for me for no reason other than I promise 50% of my administration won't be indicted'
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Trump was going to win anyway imo but BLM have handed him victory on a silver platter
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I'm amazed at trends in language and how "black" has suddenly become "Black" even when unassociated with BLM.

So now I read in the woke NYT, that "a Black woman ..."

Classic example of Newspeak.
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gazuty wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:46 am
I'm amazed at trends in language and how "black" has suddenly become "Black" even when unassociated with BLM.

So now I read in the woke NYT, that "a Black woman ..."

Classic example of Newspeak.
The same media that say we shouldn't look at a person's skin colour, and people are sick of it, it definitely feels worse than in 2016
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Naffman wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:56 am
gazuty wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:46 am
I'm amazed at trends in language and how "black" has suddenly become "Black" even when unassociated with BLM.

So now I read in the woke NYT, that "a Black woman ..."

Classic example of Newspeak.
The same media that say we shouldn't look at a person's skin colour, and people are sick of it, it definitely feels worse than in 2016
Yep, MLK is rolling in his grave.
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Society is currently where?
MSM knows it sells, Politicians using it as leverage, far left & right groups build their base upon it & now the education system wants to teach about it.

What a mess.
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jamesg46 wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 10:06 am
Society is currently where?
MSM knows it sells, Politicians using it as leverage, far left & right groups build their base upon it & now the education system wants to teach about it.

What a mess.
looks like we're positioned somewhere between #Fear and #Anger imho...
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Almost a 50/50 game, Trump has come roaring back from 3+
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Naffman wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 5:29 am
Almost a 50/50 game, Trump has come roaring back from 3+
Amazing. In my own time, I don't think any other candidate has had such large sections of the media outright campaigning against them (it's way more than "reporting" the news), together with the so called majority of "elite" opinion. And yet Trump remains well and truly in contention.

Can't wait for the debates. Hoping for moments of pure entertainment like this (admittedly from a VP debate) - and so much waffle in the answer, which is what got him in to trouble in the first place - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMaEC-C4Y20

And this one from Billy Jefferson - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ffbFvKlWqE

Will there be a debate moment where Trump wipes the floor with Biden? or can Biden muster something he is yet to show?
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gazuty wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:42 am
Naffman wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 5:29 am
Almost a 50/50 game, Trump has come roaring back from 3+
Amazing. In my own time, I don't think any other candidate has had such large sections of the media outright campaigning against them (it's way more than "reporting" the news), together with the so called majority of "elite" opinion. And yet Trump remains well and truly in contention.

Can't wait for the debates. Hoping for moments of pure entertainment like this (admittedly from a VP debate) - and so much waffle in the answer, which is what got him in to trouble in the first place - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMaEC-C4Y20

And this one from Billy Jefferson - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ffbFvKlWqE

Will there be a debate moment where Trump wipes the floor with Biden? or can Biden muster something he is yet to show?
The media have tried and failed in the US, UK and Aus for the last decade and failed every time, it almost makes me think it's some reverse psychology as it's unbelievable how they think it's working :lol:

The debates will be hilarious, get the popcorn ready! Especially if Biden challenges Trump's handling of covid yet when Trump stopped flights coming in Biden criticised him then he's going to get torn to shreds.
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