2015 UK General Election
BBCs left wing bias highlighted in all its rancidness last night and Dimbleby had the nerve to say the audience was a cross section.You hear a pin drop when Farage gave his answers yet plenty of applause for the others despite Farage being the only one talking reality.See the group hug the witches of eastwick shared at the end, proper sickening stuff that, dont envy Milliband working with them post election.
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superfrank
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Miliband into 4/5 from Evens a few days ago.
yikes, can we really have a dweeb like him running the country?!
yikes, can we really have a dweeb like him running the country?!
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tweebie1999
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Election forecast 21 April:
Conservative 283 seats
Labour 270 seats
Liberal Democats 26 seats
Ukip 1 seat
SNP 47 Seats
Green 1 seat
Other 22 seats
So who will work with who?
Tories - UKIP - Lib Dem = 283 + 26 + 1 = 310 seats
Labour - SNP - Green = 270 + 47 + 1 = 318 seats
So assuming LIB Dems work with the Conservatives (which cant be guaranteed) then we need to drill down and look at the make up of the Others.
Plaid Cymru 4 seats
DUP 8 seats
SDLP 3 seats
Sinn Fein 5 seats
Respect 1 seat
Alliance 1 seat
Of these Sinn Fein dont turn up so they can be discounted. That leaves:
Conservative leaning parties : DUP
Labour leaning parties: Plaid Cymru - SDLP - Respect - Alliance
No we have the following totals:
Conservative and friends : 318 seats
Labour and Friends : 327 seats
So as I see it, if Labour are prepared to enter into some agreement with SNP then they will have a narrow majority. If however Lib Dems side with Labour instead of Conservative then Labour will have a substantial majority. Labour and Lib Dem could enter into a formal coalition and have informal support from SNP.
My own opinion: immigration isn't the issue, it is good for the country. Neither is the EU. The issue has to be the economy and as far as I am concerned Labour has always left the economy in a mess.
I am off to live abroad luckily so I will escape. I will however watch from afar as our new PM appears in every European newspaper depicted as a knife wielding brother killer or a goofy bunny rabbit.
Who said:
' THE LAST ONE TO LEAVE PLEASE TURN OFF THE LIGHTS'?
Conservative 283 seats
Labour 270 seats
Liberal Democats 26 seats
Ukip 1 seat
SNP 47 Seats
Green 1 seat
Other 22 seats
So who will work with who?
Tories - UKIP - Lib Dem = 283 + 26 + 1 = 310 seats
Labour - SNP - Green = 270 + 47 + 1 = 318 seats
So assuming LIB Dems work with the Conservatives (which cant be guaranteed) then we need to drill down and look at the make up of the Others.
Plaid Cymru 4 seats
DUP 8 seats
SDLP 3 seats
Sinn Fein 5 seats
Respect 1 seat
Alliance 1 seat
Of these Sinn Fein dont turn up so they can be discounted. That leaves:
Conservative leaning parties : DUP
Labour leaning parties: Plaid Cymru - SDLP - Respect - Alliance
No we have the following totals:
Conservative and friends : 318 seats
Labour and Friends : 327 seats
So as I see it, if Labour are prepared to enter into some agreement with SNP then they will have a narrow majority. If however Lib Dems side with Labour instead of Conservative then Labour will have a substantial majority. Labour and Lib Dem could enter into a formal coalition and have informal support from SNP.
My own opinion: immigration isn't the issue, it is good for the country. Neither is the EU. The issue has to be the economy and as far as I am concerned Labour has always left the economy in a mess.
I am off to live abroad luckily so I will escape. I will however watch from afar as our new PM appears in every European newspaper depicted as a knife wielding brother killer or a goofy bunny rabbit.
Who said:
' THE LAST ONE TO LEAVE PLEASE TURN OFF THE LIGHTS'?
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/six ... -election/LinusP wrote:Nate Silver is on BBC1 at the moment (Panorama) talking about the election.
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superfrank
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The IFS is scathing of the sums of the mainstream parties
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-32498082
Just wishful thinking and deceit as usual - I'll eat my hat if the UK is running anything even close to a budget surplus by the end of the next parliament. Not a chance.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-32498082
Just wishful thinking and deceit as usual - I'll eat my hat if the UK is running anything even close to a budget surplus by the end of the next parliament. Not a chance.
I loved the way (r)ed is telling us how he would cap private sectors rents, populist measure etc. etc. when the impact of such would be significant.
If you look at the large number of high end apartments going up in London they are mainly being bought by overseas investors pumping money into the UK. Shoot the yield and that money will go to another city.
If you look at the large number of high end apartments going up in London they are mainly being bought by overseas investors pumping money into the UK. Shoot the yield and that money will go to another city.
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superfrank
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Euler, I agree that the UK needs the money coming in but that (often hot) money has created a ridiculous bubble in London property that cannot be sustained over the long term. They'll be no one left able to pay the stupid rents (I left London because of that) and the thing will likely implode as investors get out when prices stop rising.
Ultimately that's a problem for the Asian speculators though?
I think the answer is more housing rather than rent controls. I sympathise with people unable to rent at a reasonable price. Pretty sure the market will self correct. There seems to be a billion apartments being built at the moment.
I think the answer is more housing rather than rent controls. I sympathise with people unable to rent at a reasonable price. Pretty sure the market will self correct. There seems to be a billion apartments being built at the moment.
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superfrank
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don't think it is just a problem for speculators - the UK housing market has been blow up to the point where it has become "too big to fail", hence constant new policies to attract new entrants in the market with ever greater debt (loads now underwritten by govt) to keep it going.
if it tanks it takes the banks and UK economy with it; note the initial responses to the financial crisis (a myriad of govt schemes to support prices).
fewer people, more houses and less debt is surely the solution (but it won't happen!).
you wouldn't need rent controls or any other stupid schemes if they just left the market alone, but they are so wedded to rising prices they can't help meddling.
if it tanks it takes the banks and UK economy with it; note the initial responses to the financial crisis (a myriad of govt schemes to support prices).
fewer people, more houses and less debt is surely the solution (but it won't happen!).
you wouldn't need rent controls or any other stupid schemes if they just left the market alone, but they are so wedded to rising prices they can't help meddling.
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Groovyelms
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Again Milliband and the team come up with another ridiculas proposal to controll market forces. The property market is the the property market. Prices whave gone crazy reason because people want to live here: is this a wellcome or unwellcome variety of imigration?
I know that this trivial but a comment from someone writting on socialist media said "Milliband has a very odd way of speaking" I never could take him seriously at the start of this campaign, but as it goes on he looks more and more like an amusing cartoon, constantly going on about the ordinary working people of this country! exactly who are these people?
Obviuosly not an entrepeneur earning over £150,000.00 per year and exporting accross the globe and employing a large local workforce.....
God I dread the prospect of him in some sort of power with Alex Salmond and all the other baying extremists, realizing that finally their day in the sun arrived....
Concerned voter of Brighton Pavillion Ward (currently green)
I know that this trivial but a comment from someone writting on socialist media said "Milliband has a very odd way of speaking" I never could take him seriously at the start of this campaign, but as it goes on he looks more and more like an amusing cartoon, constantly going on about the ordinary working people of this country! exactly who are these people?
Obviuosly not an entrepeneur earning over £150,000.00 per year and exporting accross the globe and employing a large local workforce.....
God I dread the prospect of him in some sort of power with Alex Salmond and all the other baying extremists, realizing that finally their day in the sun arrived....
Concerned voter of Brighton Pavillion Ward (currently green)
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superfrank
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Ha ha, Brighton, ruled by the fascist left wanting to ban racing!Groovyelms wrote:God I dread the prospect of him in some sort of power with Alex Salmond and all the other baying extremists, realizing that finally their day in the sun arrived....
Concerned voter of Brighton Pavillion Ward (currently green)
If Miliband gets in the Tories will have only themselves to blame imho - Miliband is the modern equivalent of Michael Foot and if they can't beat him then they've had it.
The Conservatives should have positioned themselves as true champions of ordinary working people (Labour + the Lib Dems certainly don't represent them anymore), but they just can't help giving tax cuts to millionaires and obsessing over inheritance tax for million £ houses - political suicide. Also still fudging Europe and done sod all about immigration (cos big business likes cheap labour). Bl00dy idiots.