Trading Horse racing : Lay the field - any stats available to assist?

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deggsy10
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Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:48 pm

Hi all. I have been having a look at the lay the field strategy which looks quite interesting. What would be useful to know is how many times 2 or more horses get matched during the race below odds of 2 and at which types of races did it occur etc. Does a anybody know of any resource where stats on this is available?


Derek27
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Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:30 pm

If you're thinking of using that strategy, it might me worth checking the Timeform website, I know they used to have information/tables on the average IR trade prices on a course-by-course basis.

Certain courses for a variety of reasons, such as an uphill finish or long run from the last, have a much higher percentage of changing places in the closing stages, resulting in a lot of short priced IR losers.

deggsy10
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Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:23 pm

Thanks for posting that although I am struggling with interpreting it. The way it is listed, the different races dont seem to be bunched together. For example on the 4th link the 15th October stats, in rows 6 and 7 there is the Cork 17.00 2m3f handicap hard showing the runners Rory Omore and Birdies Boy but the rest of the runners for that race are scattered around various different rows. Is there any way of sorting the columns so it keeps all the races together?

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northbound
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Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:16 am

There should be a field called EVENT_ID, try sorting data by that field.

jjrrjj
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Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:07 am

As said above ,depending on your version of excel as i think the layout is slightly different from version to version.

On mine it is : Data tab at the top -> Sort -> Sort by (EVENT_ID)

deggsy10
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Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:40 pm

jjrrjj wrote:
Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:07 am
As said above ,depending on your version of excel as i think the layout is slightly different from version to version.

On mine it is : Data tab at the top -> Sort -> Sort by (EVENT_ID)
Thanks. Im using a mac. I think Ive figured out how to sort it. Finally, is it the IPMIN column that details the lowest odds each horse was matched at?

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northbound
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Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:52 pm

Yes, IPMIN tells you the lowest odds that horse was matched inplay.

deggsy10
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Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:06 pm

northbound wrote:
Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:52 pm
Yes, IPMIN tells you the lowest odds that horse was matched inplay.
Strange that in some of the races, the lowest odds any of the horses got matched at is over 1.01. There was one I saw were the lowest odds for any of the horses in that race was 1.74. Surely the winner would be 1.01 every time? Odd. Anyway, from having a scan over some of those stats, the impression Im getting is that there doesn't seem to be any particular pattern for horses more likely to be matched under 2 in terms of race type. From the research I've done, the suggestion seems to be that the short sprints are more likely to get higher numbers of horses matched at low odds. But from what I can see there is just as much chance of this happening in the 2 mile races. Confused.

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Dallas
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Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:29 pm

Its actually the opposite, the longer distance races have a far higher percentage of losing runners trading below 2.0, than the 5f, 6f & 7f sprints

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