1000 Winner Conquest

[gutuami]

here is a list of bsp>100 winners. it is up to 2016 January.

[Halliday]

After acheiving more then at times I thought was possible with trading I now and have been for some time been desperate to back a horse priced 1000 and win.

From betting I have had a 66/1 winner and an 80/1 second over the years but I have never managed to have a 100/1 winner. In fact probably only ever backed a couple priced that high.
Hence why ive never hit it lol.

However I am really eager to break the duck and eventually back a 100/1 winner with the bookies and a 1000 pre race and inplay.
Now I know this sounds crazy because I know how uncommon a 1000 winner is at pre race odds however I want to acheive it.

Obviously I could just back all at 1000 etc and just sit and wait until eventually one wins. Thats not really my aim as that is pointless.

I am looking to work on a methodical approach... even if the result doesnt turn out profitable but has reasons behind acheiving it.

So even if over 3 years i bet 3k and won 2k back using only certain runners to a selected criteria id be happy. Obviously a profitable system is ideal but i know is not realistic.

Looking for any stories or any advice... simply because of how little these things do happen. For example theres probably 10 horses everyday priced over 100/1 but we know 100/1 shots come about every few months. So i am looking for something just to acheive backing one but not betting them all. Something with some logic.

Welcome ideas.

Back in March 2017 in a thread about systems I said

" 2 This is an odd one and requires knowledge of trainer profiles etc and assessing quality of a trainers horse and the level of form of a stable over previous seasons ... In 2013/ 2014 Johnathon Portman had some huge priced placed horses making their debut but no winners

From Jan 1st 2015 up until now . He had 50 debut runners ... and 5 winners at odds of 66/1, 33/1, 25/1, 25/1 and 20/1 producing a level stakes profit of 124 points !!
Will it continue into 2017 or has it had its shelf life ? . Who knows ..."

Since then Indiscretion won for him at Kempton in October 2017 at odds of 100/1

Depending on what criteria you use . E.g. If you backed just 2/3 yo starting at odds of 66/1 or more that would have produce two winners since 2015 at odds of 66/1 and 100/1 but he had none in 2013/14

He's just a trainer whose stats I analyse . So who knows SHR you might do a lot worse than to back certain of his horses to get that that huge priced winner !!

Not the 1000/1 winner you wanted but another debut winner for Johnny Portman in the 18.15 at Wolverhampton in UNVEILLING( traded around 18.00 before the off ) beating his better fancied stable companion

[SeaHorseRacing]

After acheiving more then at times I thought was possible with trading I now and have been for some time been desperate to back a horse priced 1000 and win.

From betting I have had a 66/1 winner and an 80/1 second over the years but I have never managed to have a 100/1 winner. In fact probably only ever backed a couple priced that high.
Hence why ive never hit it lol.

However I am really eager to break the duck and eventually back a 100/1 winner with the bookies and a 1000 pre race and inplay.
Now I know this sounds crazy because I know how uncommon a 1000 winner is at pre race odds however I want to acheive it.

Obviously I could just back all at 1000 etc and just sit and wait until eventually one wins. Thats not really my aim as that is pointless.

I am looking to work on a methodical approach... even if the result doesnt turn out profitable but has reasons behind acheiving it.

So even if over 3 years i bet 3k and won 2k back using only certain runners to a selected criteria id be happy. Obviously a profitable system is ideal but i know is not realistic.

Looking for any stories or any advice... simply because of how little these things do happen. For example theres probably 10 horses everyday priced over 100/1 but we know 100/1 shots come about every few months. So i am looking for something just to acheive backing one but not betting them all. Something with some logic.

Welcome ideas.

Back in March 2017 in a thread about systems I said

" 2 This is an odd one and requires knowledge of trainer profiles etc and assessing quality of a trainers horse and the level of form of a stable over previous seasons ... In 2013/ 2014 Johnathon Portman had some huge priced placed horses making their debut but no winners

From Jan 1st 2015 up until now . He had 50 debut runners ... and 5 winners at odds of 66/1, 33/1, 25/1, 25/1 and 20/1 producing a level stakes profit of 124 points !!
Will it continue into 2017 or has it had its shelf life ? . Who knows ..."

Since then Indiscretion won for him at Kempton in October 2017 at odds of 100/1

Depending on what criteria you use . E.g. If you backed just 2/3 yo starting at odds of 66/1 or more that would have produce two winners since 2015 at odds of 66/1 and 100/1 but he had none in 2013/14

He's just a trainer whose stats I analyse . So who knows SHR you might do a lot worse than to back certain of his horses to get that that huge priced winner !!

Not the 1000/1 winner you wanted but another debut winner for Johnny Portman in the 18.15 at Wolverhampton in UNVEILLING( traded around 18.00 before the off ) beating his better fancied stable companion

Great call mate. I had a little glance at that race earlier but forgot about your post. Its amazing how a name of trainer can effect a horse being in the top 3 of the betting or just double digits.

[gazuty]

Used to be on Gubbage. http://www.gubbage.com/1-01-losers

Looks like site has been cut back. 1.01 stats no longer being updated.

On 100/1 - I've had a few, but then again too few to mention.

[bobs71]

So even if over 3 years i bet 3k and won 2k back using only certain runners to a selected criteria id be happy.

is this clown for real , why do you guys regular to the forum let this Walter Mitty continue to post here with this sort of shite . He has previous on various horseracing forums , especially in matters of pace and times, which he quite plainly cannot grasp. 'Apparently' he won 30 grand on a big treble with Ladbrokes quite recently and was flashing a screenshot on another forum - strange he has not mentioned it here yet. Worked for The Baldings , Professional Gambler , Sued the Bookies , Pace Formula Maestro , Bodybuilder , Actor , the list goes on and on - i think now he is saying "somewhere" he is quite a decent long distance runner as well but i have his latest identity figured out on that forum and will expose him soon. His "Trading Diary" thread is comedy gold.

[SeaHorseRacing]

So even if over 3 years i bet 3k and won 2k back using only certain runners to a selected criteria id be happy.

is this clown for real , why do you guys regular to the forum let this Walter Mitty continue to post here with this sort of shite . He has previous on various horseracing forums , especially in matters of pace and times, which he quite plainly cannot grasp. 'Apparently' he won 30 grand on a big treble with Ladbrokes quite recently and was flashing a screenshot on another forum - strange he has not mentioned it here yet. Worked for The Baldings , Professional Gambler , Sued the Bookies , Pace Formula Maestro , Bodybuilder , Actor , the list goes on and on - i think now he is saying "somewhere" he is quite a decent long distance runner as well but i have his latest identity figured out on that forum and will expose him soon. His "Trading Diary" thread is comedy gold.

Having a bad xmas mate. If you dont like it dont write.

For what it matters. I was only a member on two forums. This place, and betting forum. Lets make a point. Never claimed to be a body builder. I work out everyday because it keeps me fit and focused. You know what I gamble and trade for a living everyday. When you do this practically 24/7 it does get a bit lonely, none of my friends understand or are interested. I right on this forum because it is one of my passions and it makes me feel better about myself.

Relation to this thread, if you even had a brain cell you would understand that the purpose is to acheive picking and backing a 1000 winner with a good theory behind it. It has nothing to do with making money. I have never backed a 1000 winner and not many have.

Relation to other things, what does it really matter regards to other forum I was expressing imo some very thoughtful and clever ideas to racing yet there are some people including yourself who are just complete arseholes. Frakly you should be gratefull I am responding because I am not trading today.

Whether I am respected on this forum or not, I contribute far more then causing uncessary arguments with people like you. Yes, I am an arse hole and I do speak my mind most of the time.

Stop being a sado and trying to link other people to me, nobody cares. Were all here to learn, chat and make money no one gives a rat ass whether I am a phscyo or a troll.

Grow up and move on. Your not getting another response from me. Have a problem inbox me.

[Euler]

I've backed several 1000's in my career, but none this year.

[SeaHorseRacing]

I've backed several 1000's in my career, but none this year.

Prodomintley inrunning or sp?

[bobs71]

So even if over 3 years i bet 3k and won 2k back using only certain runners to a selected criteria id be happy.

is this clown for real , why do you guys regular to the forum let this Walter Mitty continue to post here with this sort of shite . He has previous on various horseracing forums , especially in matters of pace and times, which he quite plainly cannot grasp. 'Apparently' he won 30 grand on a big treble with Ladbrokes quite recently and was flashing a screenshot on another forum - strange he has not mentioned it here yet. Worked for The Baldings , Professional Gambler , Sued the Bookies , Pace Formula Maestro , Bodybuilder , Actor , the list goes on and on - i think now he is saying "somewhere" he is quite a decent long distance runner as well but i have his latest identity figured out on that forum and will expose him soon. His "Trading Diary" thread is comedy gold.

Having a bad xmas mate. If you dont like it dont write.

For what it matters. I was only a member on two forums. This place, and betting forum. Lets make a point. Never claimed to be a body builder. I work out everyday because it keeps me fit and focused. You know what I gamble and trade for a living everyday. When you do this practically 24/7 it does get a bit lonely, none of my friends understand or are interested. I right on this forum because it is one of my passions and it makes me feel better about myself.

Relation to this thread, if you even had a brain cell you would understand that the purpose is to acheive picking and backing a 1000 winner with a good theory behind it. It has nothing to do with making money. I have never backed a 1000 winner and not many have.

Relation to other things, what does it really matter regards to other forum I was expressing imo some very thoughtful and clever ideas to racing yet there are some people including yourself who are just complete arseholes. Frakly you should be gratefull I am responding because I am not trading today.

Whether I am respected on this forum or not, I contribute far more then causing uncessary arguments with people like you. Yes, I am an arse hole and I do speak my mind most of the time.

Stop being a sado and trying to link other people to me, nobody cares. Were all here to learn, chat and make money no one gives a rat ass whether I am a phscyo or a troll.

Grow up and move on. Your not getting another response from me. Have a problem inbox me.

Xmas means feck all to me Scott , my ancestors gave up on that idea when we realised how thumbs work.
It was the c - word that done it the last time Scott - no need for it - you were took to task for talking verbal diarrhoea of the highest order in matters of pace and time in relation to horse racing , then after turning the air blue , scanned up some doctored screen shots of a 30 grand treble from Ladbrokes , as if that proved anything , whist parting with an AW "Tip" the next day that was soundly trounced around 7-4. As in your 'Trading Diary' thread , you have been found out and it is only right i inform the masses here of your completely fabricated fairytales and to take each and every word with a large pinch of Andrews Liver Salts.

[bobs71]

is this clown for real , why do you guys regular to the forum let this Walter Mitty continue to post here with this sort of shite . He has previous on various horseracing forums , especially in matters of pace and times, which he quite plainly cannot grasp. 'Apparently' he won 30 grand on a big treble with Ladbrokes quite recently and was flashing a screenshot on another forum - strange he has not mentioned it here yet. Worked for The Baldings , Professional Gambler , Sued the Bookies , Pace Formula Maestro , Bodybuilder , Actor , the list goes on and on - i think now he is saying "somewhere" he is quite a decent long distance runner as well but i have his latest identity figured out on that forum and will expose him soon. His "Trading Diary" thread is comedy gold.

Having a bad xmas mate. If you dont like it dont write.

For what it matters. I was only a member on two forums. This place, and betting forum. Lets make a point. Never claimed to be a body builder. I work out everyday because it keeps me fit and focused. You know what I gamble and trade for a living everyday. When you do this practically 24/7 it does get a bit lonely, none of my friends understand or are interested. I right on this forum because it is one of my passions and it makes me feel better about myself.

Relation to this thread, if you even had a brain cell you would understand that the purpose is to acheive picking and backing a 1000 winner with a good theory behind it. It has nothing to do with making money. I have never backed a 1000 winner and not many have.

Relation to other things, what does it really matter regards to other forum I was expressing imo some very thoughtful and clever ideas to racing yet there are some people including yourself who are just complete arseholes. Frakly you should be gratefull I am responding because I am not trading today.

Whether I am respected on this forum or not, I contribute far more then causing uncessary arguments with people like you. Yes, I am an arse hole and I do speak my mind most of the time.

Stop being a sado and trying to link other people to me, nobody cares. Were all here to learn, chat and make money no one gives a rat ass whether I am a phscyo or a troll.

Grow up and move on. Your not getting another response from me. Have a problem inbox me.

Xmas means feck all to me Scott , my ancestors gave up on that idea when we realised how thumbs work.
It was the c - word that done it the last time Scott - no need for it - you were took to task for talking verbal diarrhoea of the highest order in matters of pace and time in relation to horse racing , then after turning the air blue , scanned up some doctored screen shots of a 30 grand treble from Ladbrokes , as if that proved anything , whist parting with an AW "Tip" the next day that was soundly trounced around 7-4. As in your 'Trading Diary' thread , you have been found out and it is only right i inform the masses here of your completely fabricated fairytales and to take each and every word with a large pinch of Andrews Liver Salts.

But anybody that is prepared to drop a grand for an ego boost and bragging rights to a winner in a certain odds bracket knows their stuff eh!!!

[ShaunWhite]

What's your motivation for wanting to bring people down bobs?

[SeaHorseRacing]

What's your motivation for wanting to bring people down bobs?

I cant say weve all been their but I can only assume his gambling or trading has gone tits up and has taken it out on me.

Ive been their years ago, would just lash out and that was because I couldnt trade or manage myself. If thats the case then I understand.

The simple fact is I dont like bullys and i didnt like the behavour towards me on another site so I called them a bunch of C's. Thats it, they deserved it.
I still think their a bunch of C's.

Listen pal, Sometimes its very hard to put your point accross via text, sometimes it frustrates the hell out of you and on that occasion I did the same but trying to attack someone is quite sour if you ask me. You keep mentioning bring me down... for what. Because you assume I doctored some document. I used to post p/ls daily here but I havent done it for a very long time simply because people dont give a shit.

I posted a genuine document because I was being ridiculed when I know for a fact that my racing knowledge is at an extensive level. Again I would post my theorys and was told I was copying other peoples, when again they were wrong, possibly I created my own theory yet someone had already done.

Look how many people are posting here to back me or back you up. Nobody gives a toss. Its a forum, we use it like so, what are you planning or trying to acheive? Get them to block me?

I regulalry post winners on this forum, I answer un answered threads, I go out of my way to offer trading advice and 99% of the time I indulge in trading discussions.

I celebrate xmas and suspect alot of others do too. I am not wasting another minute on you. If you want to discuss an issue pm me.

[bobs71]

What's your motivation for wanting to bring people down bobs?

Hi Shaun

To put things in perspective , Walter / Scott / Tristan / Whoever came onto a few threads on the UK Betting Forum and was welcomed at first. But when he started the "expert" tone on speed ratings / pace handicapping and putting up documents which have quite frankly been in circulation for over 30 years in pace handicapping and claiming ownership , he was in jest , put in his place. He proceeded to call a moderator a king canute , flashed up a doctored screenshot of a 30k Ladbrokes treble (which he claimed to be from a few days before) and his parting shot was an All Weather Tip which at 7-4 ran badly the next day. Pretty similar to his whole charade on his "Trading Diary" here where i see a lot of good advice was given to him.
The fact is that i see people here who obviously don't have the horse racing knowledge and maybe come from a trading background , are listening to him and worse actually believing his claims etc.
My intention is not to bring him down Shaun , read between the lines and he is quite capable of doing that himself , my intention is to let people know who might be unaware , that he is a complete and utter bullshitter with a very rudimentary knowledge of betting on horse racing trying to pass himself off as some kind of expert.
He clearly missed his calling as he would have made a flipping brilliant politician.

[bobs71]

What's your motivation for wanting to bring people down bobs?

Hi Shuan

To put things in perspective , Walter / Scott / Whoever came onto a few threads on the UK Betting Forum and was welcomed at first. But when he started the "expert" tone on speed ratings / pace handicapping and putting up documents which have quite frankly been in circulation for over 30 years in pace handicapping and claiming ownership , he was in jest , put in his place. He proceeded to call a moderator a king canute , flashed up a doctored screenshot of a 30k Ladbrokes treble (which he claimed to be from a few days before) and his parting shot was an All Weather Tip which at 7-4 ran badly the next day. Pretty similar to his whole charade on his "Trading Diary" here where i see a lot of good advice was given to him.
The fact is that i see people here who obviously don't have the horse racing knowledge and maybe come from a trading background , are listening to him and worse actually believing his claims etc.
My intention is not to bring him down Shaun , read between the lines and he is quite capable of doing that himself , my intention is to let people know who might be unaware , that he is a complete and utter bullshitter with a very rudimentary knowledge of betting on horse racing trying to pass himself off as some kind of expert.
He clearly missed his calling as he would have made a flipping brilliant politician.

He titled his thread "A Look Into My Light......" Ffs

[bobs71]

Because its Xmas , and i'm feeling generous consider this a gift to the forum.
I'm surprised he has not been called out already on here.

Willing to lose a grand just for the sake of backing a 100-1 shot was the final straw.

I had to.

Just had to.

Does a strategy like that benefit the forum?