A question for newbies & beginners
When you have the market open it naturally is refreshing as you would expect but when you close the market it will refresh as governed by your guardian. Have a look at the 'Advanced' tab in guardian - check if the restrict refresh is ticked - if it is - either untick or set the restriction to the period you require.
ill try that..thanksJukebox wrote: ↑Fri Jul 27, 2018 10:10 pmWhen you have the market open it naturally is refreshing as you would expect but when you close the market it will refresh as governed by your guardian. Have a look at the 'Advanced' tab in guardian - check if the restrict refresh is ticked - if it is - either untick or set the restriction to the period you require.
There are many reasons - but mainly - as with any horse at any odds - because they hope to profit from it. The reason 1000 occurs so often though is because thats the highest Betfair allows - so if you think a horse has only a 2,000/1, 5,000/1 or 10,000/1 or even no chance - as a layer 1000 is the best you can offer.
I remember Peter Webb once saying that he'd both backed a 1000 winner - and laid a 1.01 loser - (There was at least one of those today at Ascot)
Outside of horse racing Leicester City famously won the premier league with early odds at the bookies of 5000/1 - you'd not have got better than 1000 on Betfair - but you might have laid it on the exchange.
Euler put up a list a few days ago that included a couple of golfers at The Open who started at 1000 and made the cut and their odds had consequently dropped considerably.
I remember Peter Webb once saying that he'd both backed a 1000 winner - and laid a 1.01 loser - (There was at least one of those today at Ascot)
Outside of horse racing Leicester City famously won the premier league with early odds at the bookies of 5000/1 - you'd not have got better than 1000 on Betfair - but you might have laid it on the exchange.
Euler put up a list a few days ago that included a couple of golfers at The Open who started at 1000 and made the cut and their odds had consequently dropped considerably.
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There was a user by the name of Warwick Hunt on the Betfair Official Forums who laid a 1000 winner for £150
In his defence, the commentator had called the wrong horse but still would be filed under "Not a great day at the office"
In his defence, the commentator had called the wrong horse but still would be filed under "Not a great day at the office"
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I've found 4 that started at 1000 on Horseracebase;
In the 4 cases where the winner started at 1000, there was either an odds on fav, or a fav and 2nd fav way lower price than any others, basically A.N.Other winning what the market thought was a 2 horse race. Similar to the publicity around Cheltenham Gold Cup 2010 - Will it be Kauto Star, or Denman?? Imperial Commander said Hold my beer and watch this
Regarding In-Running horses reaching 1000, way more chance of that happening. 2 horses way clear in a chase and both fall at the last fence, you can be sure the rest of the field were in the 100's if not 1000 by then. I haven't got a current subscription to ProForm but you can check figures on how many horses hit 1000 IR and go on to win from there.
Reason being people might offer 1000 are many, maybe they've watched the horse and didn't like what they saw previously, maybe they're bookmaking and need to offer the max price on one horse to balance their book/make their margin, or the trainer got lucky.In the 4 cases where the winner started at 1000, there was either an odds on fav, or a fav and 2nd fav way lower price than any others, basically A.N.Other winning what the market thought was a 2 horse race. Similar to the publicity around Cheltenham Gold Cup 2010 - Will it be Kauto Star, or Denman?? Imperial Commander said Hold my beer and watch this
Regarding In-Running horses reaching 1000, way more chance of that happening. 2 horses way clear in a chase and both fall at the last fence, you can be sure the rest of the field were in the 100's if not 1000 by then. I haven't got a current subscription to ProForm but you can check figures on how many horses hit 1000 IR and go on to win from there.
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Dessie Scahill was notorious for doing this on the Irish racing. In his defence there was often 5 or more horses in the JP McManus colours. He commentated on the Irish National this year, 11/30 in Gigginstown colours, what could possibly go wrong?? Nothing, he called a tight finish in bad weather right!
Thanks for all your replies..
to just check i understand...."IF" u looked at a horses form, and decided it was a loser, so to speak...and u checked with a bookie it was 100/1 to back but when u checked on betfair the odds were 1000/1 to back (the next price was 100/1) but no lay price had arrived in the market at that point...u would back this horse to lay it when the lay price arrived?
am i thinking correctly here, or is it past my bedtime
thx again
to just check i understand...."IF" u looked at a horses form, and decided it was a loser, so to speak...and u checked with a bookie it was 100/1 to back but when u checked on betfair the odds were 1000/1 to back (the next price was 100/1) but no lay price had arrived in the market at that point...u would back this horse to lay it when the lay price arrived?
am i thinking correctly here, or is it past my bedtime
thx again