Arc De Triomphe

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SeaHorseRacing
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Fantastic renewal this Year!!

I honestly do not believe Enable is good enough to win this years version. She has class but to win an Arc after a year off is one serious ask. Insanity she’s Even money.

Laying for a place looks like printing money.

Waldgeist looks a world class horse and I believe last years form is one of the reasons it’s 7/1 and not 3/1.

Waldgeist is a superstar and Pactascoy at 33/1 looks absolute madness.

I have price the market as such.

Enable 5/2, Waldgeist 11/4, Pactascoy 6/1, Sea Of Class 15/2. 10/1 Bar.

We’re see what happens.
elofan0
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some useful stats i found online not my words

Eighteen of the last twenty four runnings of the race have been won by horses aged three, giving them a strike rate of 75%.
Four year olds have won sixteen of the last forty six runnings of the race, giving them a strike rate of 35%. Six four year olds have won in the last twenty four years; a strike rate of 25%. There have been just eight winners aged 5+ since the first running in 1920, with Marienbard in 2002, the last five year old winner of the race.

The domination of three year olds in the Prix De L Arc De Triomphe can be partly atrributed to the fact that they get a significant weight allowance compared with the older horses that run in the race. Three year old fillies are asked to race of only 8-9, whilst three year old colts are asked to carry 8-13. This compares with older fillies who are asked to race off 9-2, with the older colts on 9-5.

Horses above the age of five and those that have been peaked to take in mid Summer races such as the King George, do not have a great record in the race. A notable exception to the latter trend, was the 2009 Arc winner Sea the Stars, who won both the Juddmonte at York and the Coral Eclipse, before going on to land the Arc. Workforce, the 2010 Arc winner was trounced in the King George before he went on to take the Arc. No horse has ever won both the St Leger and Arc in the same season.
The last horse to complete the Prix De L Arc De Triomphe double was Treve in 2014. Before that the feat was achieved by the Lester Piggot ridden Alleged, in 1978, and in 1956 by the brilliant Ribot.
The rule as regards the draw is very simple: good horses can win from anywhere. This is borne out by the victories of Sakhee and Treve (15), Dalakhani (14) Zarakava (1), and Golden Horn (16). Anything else that you here is merely idle chatter.

History tells us that there is a possibility that Enable will bounce: so the current quote of Evens is a joke. Sea of Class and Cracksman require different going - so one of them is going to be inconvenienced on the day, and, indeed may not even run. Professional arbitrageurs are advised to position themselves for an enormous plunge on the O'Brien trained Kew Gardens ahead of the off.

Advised Waldgeist @ 12/1 e/w. Arbitrage: Kew Gardens.
elofan0
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The things about Enable is the horse hasnt lost with Dettori on board and hasnt lost below 12f
so can Enable win this race if you ignore stats ?
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SeaHorseRacing
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elofan0 wrote:
Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:36 am
The things about Enable is the horse hasnt lost with Dettori on board and hasnt lost below 12f
so can Enable win this race if you ignore stats ?
I think Waldgeist still has the better form. If this was level weights I’d have Waldgeist a 2/1 favourite.
elofan0
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waldgeist is 2.26 for a place :) I used to think a fast 10f horse like dancing brave was the ideal horse for this race that had proven 12f form :)
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Shall dutch the top four: Enable, Sea of Class, Waldgeist and Kew Gardens with a one tick snipe insurance if the dutch goes against me. But I believe Frankie will do the business today!
elofan0
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thats a 1/6 dutch oliver good luck :)
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Patascoy is 60s. Pretty sure this will be placed.
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1.25L- Lagrandecatherine
1.55L- Boitron
3.05L- Waldgeist
Patascoy
3.50L- With You
4.25L- Soldiers Call
5.00L- Polydream
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I have never traded an Arabian race but itv1 are showing today’s.

Might be of interest.
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4th and just couldn’t get through how many times.
Surely he get banned for dangerous ridding.
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53k matched... disappointing
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Sea of class looks like it could steam.
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Not many layers for Enable
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What a race!
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