French horse racing

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BetScalper
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Hi,

Does french horse racing have the same liquidity as UK racing ?

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Derek27
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It's almost non-existent, like some US tracks. But the group ones are worth a look.
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BetScalper
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Derek27 wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:34 pm
It's almost non-existent, like some US tracks. But the group ones are worth a look.
Thanks,
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ANGELS15
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BetScalper wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:13 pm
Hi,

Does french horse racing have the same liquidity as UK racing ?

Thanks.
With reference to the other answers the liquidity is indeed very poor, but there's another observation. I've tried to do a little occasional dobbing on French, US and South African racing. What I've noticed is that not only is there very little liquidity but there's virtually no interest in in-running trading on these races. Today I dobbed a horse in South Africa which I thought would shorten in running. Backed it at 30.0 and placed a lay bet at 15.0. The horse quickly built up a huge lead and turning into the straight was still over 20 lengths clear yet my lay bet was only taken in the last 2 furlongs when the horse still had a 10 length lead. It did get beat though.

What seems to happen is that what little in-running trading there is, is just in a few pounds at a time. In my example today my back bet was for £36 @ 30.0 and lay bet £72 @15.0. What tends to happen is that these tiny stakes traders see the £72 sitting there and trade in front of the odds of 15.0 regardless of how well the horse is actually doing. If it were a UK race the 15.0 would have been snapped up very quickly.

I agree that the French group races are worth looking at particulary if english horses are participating.
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BetScalper
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ANGELS15 wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 9:51 pm
BetScalper wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:13 pm
Hi,

Does french horse racing have the same liquidity as UK racing ?

Thanks.
With reference to the other answers the liquidity is indeed very poor, but there's another observation. I've tried to do a little occasional dobbing on French, US and South African racing. What I've noticed is that not only is there very little liquidity but there's virtually no interest in in-running trading on these races. Today I dobbed a horse in South Africa which I thought would shorten in running. Backed it at 30.0 and placed a lay bet at 15.0. The horse quickly built up a huge lead and turning into the straight was still over 20 lengths clear yet my lay bet was only taken in the last 2 furlongs when the horse still had a 10 length lead. It did get beat though.

What seems to happen is that what little in-running trading there is, is just in a few pounds at a time. In my example today my back bet was for £36 @ 30.0 and lay bet £72 @15.0. What tends to happen is that these tiny stakes traders see the £72 sitting there and trade in front of the odds of 15.0 regardless of how well the horse is actually doing. If it were a UK race the 15.0 would have been snapped up very quickly.

I agree that the French group races are worth looking at particulary if english horses are participating.
Interesting observations!!! :)
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wearthefoxhat
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Quite enjoy the french racing, more for spectating than trading.

I like to spot the ones that will end up running in the UK. P.Nicholls tends to "buy French" and looks to exploit a lenient handicap mark they tend to get when racing in the UK.

Eg: Aux Ptits Soins 11/March/2015 @ Cheltenham.

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wearthefoxhat
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Here's one if ground is softer.

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