Petition: Make Betfair Void All Bets When they fail to turn the market inplay

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ANGELS15
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gstar1975 wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2019 3:56 pm
Dear Forum Members

I have started a Petition called "Make Betfair void all bets if they don't turn the market in play" please sign and spread the word https://bit.ly/2IbngIC
I think you'll find Gstar that it's 6 of one 1/2 dozen of the other. I do a lot of back to lays (lay in-running) and it's been annoying when the market didn't go in play and I would have profitted. However there have been the odd occasions when I've won far more because betfair allowed the bets placed in the win market prior to the 'off' to stand and my horse I wanted to trade has won.
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What about the punters that back or lay a horse as a straight bet, will their bets get voided too?
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JTEDL wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:00 am
What about the punters that back or lay a horse as a straight bet, will their bets get voided too?
yes, i think as i said in my initial comment, it's far too broad and too many caveats to simply void all bets...
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JTEDL wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:00 am
What about the punters that back or lay a horse as a straight bet, will their bets get voided too?

I believe from my experience when they can't turn the markets in-play they've tended to allow the 'pre-off' bets to stand. So in theory if you laid something outright and it lost then you would still be paid out and vice versa. The problem arises more for those who place back to lay or lay to back in-running finding out later their bets have just become straight lays (pardon the expression) or backs.
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:19 pm
The following is a list of legal countries from which Betfair do accept customers: Once you start creating financial borders then some of these might not appreciate the outflow quite so readily
The list is wrong. Betfair doesnt accept customers from Germany and Austria for the exchange for example. Poland also introduced strict gambling laws a while ago. Betfair exchange isnt available in most european countries.
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pythonic wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:55 am
ShaunWhite wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:19 pm
The following is a list of legal countries from which Betfair do accept customers: Once you start creating financial borders then some of these might not appreciate the outflow quite so readily
The list is wrong. Betfair doesnt accept customers from Germany and Austria for the exchange for example. Poland also introduced strict gambling laws a while ago. Betfair exchange isnt available in most european countries.
ty, I stand corrected. Maybe that relates to the region specific BFs like Betfair.IT ?
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I think in some countries you can bet at the sportbook, but not on the exchange.
Germany for example has a turnover tax on stakes which basically makes trading impossible, in many european countries betting is a grey market and betfair made a decision to withdraw from unregulated markets some years ago.
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Germany and Austria both have a Betfair SB but no exchange (or its a very limited exchange)
Others like Spain and Italy both have there own exchange for their citizens only (and their citizens can't use them main BF.com exchange)
Then some like Denmark don't allow bets on certain markets (from memory I think its racing they can't bet on), or in the case of Australia they can't bet on some in-play markets (unless done over a phone I believe)
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It sounds like we need some sort of central organisation with the power to set Europe-wide standards and practices for gambling. oops wrong thread ;)

Betfair.IT......I wonder what happened to our talented little champion Luca?
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:14 pm
I wonder what happened to our talented little champion Luca?
He may be preparing for his move into the UK. ;)
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:19 pm
The following is a list of legal countries from which Betfair do accept customers: Once you start creating financial borders then some of these might not appreciate the outflow quite so readily.

Armenia
Australia
Austria
Belarus
Belgium
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Brazil
Bulgaria
Costa Rica
Croatia
Cyprus
Czech Republic
Denmark
Egypt
Estonia
Finland
Georgia
Germany
Gibraltar
Greece
Guatemala
Hungary
Iceland
Ireland
Italy
Latvia
Liechtenstein
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Macau
Malaysia
Malta
Mexico
Netherlands
New Zealand
Panama
Peru
Philippines
Poland
Romania
Russia
Saudi Arabia
Slovakia
Slovenia
South Korea
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland
Taiwan
Thailand
Ukraine
United Arab Emirates
United Kingdom
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Slovakia and Czech Rep. are not accessible to the exchange and you get this page.

Maybe more too. This might be a list of countries which allow the sportsbook rather than an exchange list??
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I thought the petition reached 100,000 signatures and was due a Parliamentary debate when I saw this moved to the top. ;)
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