Who is missing trading?
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I'm missing trading but I'm missing sport more, don't agree with Shaun on sport being pointless. To me reality TV and gardening are pointless but millions of people enjoy both so good luck to them. We all need distractions from life and seeing as though my partying days and 4 day benders are behind me sport is mine
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Ivory tower? You couldn't be more wrong, it's a brick bungalow.spreadbetting wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:31 pmCan always bank on Shaun to tell us what we should be doing from his ivory tower
I was just saying that watching a man hitting a little ball with a stick isn't perhaps the most important thing we could have been doing. Unless uk sport brings in overseas money all it does is recycle the money everyone has already earned.
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I agree, we need bread and circuses, just not maybe quite so much.Trader Pat wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:52 pmI'm missing trading but I'm missing sport more, don't agree with Shaun on sport being pointless. To me reality TV and gardening are pointless but millions of people enjoy both so good luck to them. We all need distractions from life and seeing as though my partying days and 4 day benders are behind me sport is mine
I've quite enjoyed the break. I'd sort of forgotten what it was like.
I've generally had jobs that have involved a lot of work and commitment, so it's probably the first time in my career when I've not had much to do. But that said, if retirement is like this I'm not ready for it.
I've had a hugely creative period on old data and stuff I had half completed. Couple of major moments of distraction-free realistion.
If I choose to have a proper break though, I would jet off to some distance secluded island and do it there. But fairly content with staying where I am at the moment, especially with the weather.
1.01 shot that lockdown ends as the weather turns for the worse.
Feel sorry for people struggling with this. Plenty of people have little or nothing to live on and are stuck in less than ideal circumstances. Hopefully, everybody can find something positive from it.
I've generally had jobs that have involved a lot of work and commitment, so it's probably the first time in my career when I've not had much to do. But that said, if retirement is like this I'm not ready for it.
I've had a hugely creative period on old data and stuff I had half completed. Couple of major moments of distraction-free realistion.
If I choose to have a proper break though, I would jet off to some distance secluded island and do it there. But fairly content with staying where I am at the moment, especially with the weather.
1.01 shot that lockdown ends as the weather turns for the worse.
Feel sorry for people struggling with this. Plenty of people have little or nothing to live on and are stuck in less than ideal circumstances. Hopefully, everybody can find something positive from it.
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Hear hear.
Polution down to levels at the start of the 20th century and 1955 levels of traffic on the roads. We're realising that so much more can be done remotely and hopefully some of that will persist. Good will come of this I'm sure.
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You sound like a hardcore addict, Derek. You need some patches to help with trading withdrawals !
They say absence is supposed to make the heart grow fonder, though I’m not really missing it too much yet.
Though to be fair, the weather has been good pretty much since the lockdown began, and April ( Aintree aside ) is my least favourite month for trading anyhow. I’ve often made a loss in April anyway, especially if making a mess of the Grand National.
Will start to feel odd if it carries on through May/June and we start losing Guinneas, Chester, York, Epsom, Ascot etc. ( I know Newmarket and Chester already abandoned.)
I was always fairly hopeful of a May resumption, though racing seems to have such a bad name at present with all the finger pointing going on and PR disaster of the aftermath of Cheltenham I’m not so sure now. Though other countries seem to be getting ready to race again, even France are hopeful of racing in May, so fingers crossed we get going soon.
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Official retirement age will probably be 70+ when the dust settles.Euler wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:56 pmI've quite enjoyed the break. I'd sort of forgotten what it was like.
I've generally had jobs that have involved a lot of work and commitment, so it's probably the first time in my career when I've not had much to do.
But that said, if retirement is like this I'm not ready for it.
Under normal conditions, the option to travel around freely will break things up, family probably flown the nest, so it will be slightly different to this. A lot will depend on how tough mentally someone is and the ability to remain compos mentis. (Health over wealth will win the day)
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I'm certainly missing the GB & IE markets, they're just such a special set of races ..unlike Aus I hate Aus lolz. Massive respect to the guys who can seamlessly transition!
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ruthlessimon wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:47 pmI'm certainly missing the GB & IE markets, they're just such a special set of races ..unlike Aus I hate Aus lolz. Massive respect to the guys who can seamlessly transition!
Same here, ruthlessimon. I respect (envy!) the traders who can switch seamlessly from trading UK racing to trading races from US, AUS and SWE. Though not as much as I envy the guys who can automate the whole lot and sit outside in the sunshine sipping cold lemonade whilst their bots coin it in !
I cant even trade the Irish. I gave it a go after the UK racing stopped, got my ass kicked, then luckily for me the next day it all got called off anyway.
Looks slightly more positive for a restart this morning. The odds on June 1st or before have shortened quite significantly, Germany and France set to race soon, could be looking at a mid to late May/ early June start. Though it won’t be the full cards that we are used to. Have heard talk of one or two 10-12 race cards per day to start off with. Which will obviously be better than nothing.
You would imagine for Royal Ascot to take place there would have to be some racing in May, so they can get some trial races run etc.
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You forget the thousands of hours getting to that position and countless more hours every week maintaining it while the markets evolve. I'd put the time getting sucessful automation going and learning to read any market cold at about the the same effort, unless you got very very lucky and just stumbled on a winning automated strategy. And then when you can cold read you can trade anything under the sun, but automation might take a whole new approach for every sport or geographic. It always looks easy when you're not doing it, everyone earns their drink.TraderFred wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:28 amThough not as much as I envy the guys who can automate the whole lot and sit outside in the sunshine sipping cold lemonade whilst their bots coin it in !
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That shatters my illusion, ShaunWhite.ShaunWhite wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:40 amYou forget the thousands of hours getting to that position and countless more hours every week maintaining it while the markets evolve. I'd put the time getting sucessful automation going and learning to read any market cold at about the the same effort, unless you got very very lucky and just stumbled on a winning automated strategy. And then when you can cold read you can trade anything under the sun, but automation might take a whole new approach for every sport or geographic. It always looks easy when you're not doing it, everyone earns their drink.TraderFred wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:28 amThough not as much as I envy the guys who can automate the whole lot and sit outside in the sunshine sipping cold lemonade whilst their bots coin it in !
I often picture you lying in a big hammock sipping on a fruit cocktail, scrolling through the forum on your iPad, occasionally logging into Betfair to check on your ever increasing balance !
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No, here you go...he's using one of those new hanging cocoon thingmebobs....TraderFred wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:59 amThat shatters my illusion, ShaunWhite.ShaunWhite wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:40 amYou forget the thousands of hours getting to that position and countless more hours every week maintaining it while the markets evolve. I'd put the time getting sucessful automation going and learning to read any market cold at about the the same effort, unless you got very very lucky and just stumbled on a winning automated strategy. And then when you can cold read you can trade anything under the sun, but automation might take a whole new approach for every sport or geographic. It always looks easy when you're not doing it, everyone earns their drink.TraderFred wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:28 amThough not as much as I envy the guys who can automate the whole lot and sit outside in the sunshine sipping cold lemonade whilst their bots coin it in !
I often picture you lying in a big hammock sipping on a fruit cocktail, scrolling through the forum on your iPad, occasionally logging into Betfair to check on your ever increasing balance !
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The upside is that you can do those hours when it suits you so I always work at night, sleep in the morning and every afternoon and evening (esp in the summer) is for doing other things. I tried manual trading for ages but always got frustrated when it ended for the day and I wished there was more and equally frustrated that I had to be at the desk by say 1pm.