BSP Historical Data & Non-runners

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Rob51852
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Hi,

Does anyone know how Berfair treats non-runners in it's BSP data? So, for example, if a runner is withdrawn after 11am how does this affect the Morning WAP?

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Anbell
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Rob51852 wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 8:10 am
Hi,

Does anyone know how Berfair treats non-runners in it's BSP data? So, for example, if a runner is withdrawn after 11am how does this affect the Morning WAP?

Thanks
I'm not sure exactly what you're after, but AFAIK a) if a horse is withdrawn then there will be no WAP for that horse and B) the data for all of the other horses are amended by the Reduction Factor of the withdrawn horse, in the same way that all bets are reduced by the RF.
Rob51852
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Thanks, that’s what I was after.
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firlandsfarm
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Rob51852 wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:21 pm
Thanks, that’s what I was after.
Not quite on topic but I'm always amused to see a non-runner being traded in-running. :lol: I assume it's the BOTs, they don't know it's a non-runner and I assume all the bets on the non-runner are scrapped ab-inito and the bets on the real runners are amended by the non-runner factor but it might be interesting to know how it can trip some BOTs up that compare the relative odds of runners to place bets!
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gstar1975
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Has anyone else noticed the missing BSP data files on the Promo website are missing for Friday 10th and Saturday 11th July?
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weemac
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Yep, this happens once or twice every year - presumably the data monkey takes a week's holiday. And the most recent files are wrongly named; these 13072020 files should be named 11072020.
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gstar1975
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gstar1975 wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:22 pm
Has anyone else noticed the missing BSP data files on the Promo website are missing for Friday 10th and Saturday 11th July?

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Files have now been uploaded with correct names.
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gstar1975
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Can anyone confirm the "1TBP" market means "one to be placed"?
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firlandsfarm
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gstar1975 wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:15 am
Can anyone confirm the "1TBP" market means "one to be placed"?

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I guess so, only 1 'winner' shown in the Win_Lose column though I don't know why it should be as Bf don't change number of places for a non-runner. Assume someone cocked-up! Only other thing I can think of is Bf have some form of automation for +1 and -1 variants of the standard place markets and someone forgot to turn it off for a 2 place race. Question is did the odds equal the win odds? If not there could have been a lot of matched betting by those who noticed it pre-off. :) (not me :( )
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gstar1975 wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:15 am
Can anyone confirm the "1TBP" market means "one to be placed"?

1 TBP market.jpg
Just means only one winner in that to be placed market. The others either fell or pulled up. They seem to have been messing around with the market names for a while for some reason, used to simply be To Be Placed markets.
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