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Korattt
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Naffman wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 10:46 am
Charts mean nothing, it's just an easy simple way for people to show the price movements of a particular selection over a period of time.
I wouldn’t say they mean nothing, but I see where you’re coming from..
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Korattt wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 10:08 am
personally, I’ve come to the conclusion that strictly speaking the BF charts don’t really conform to the usual type charts of say a financial instrument offer
Sports markets and financial markets have more differences than similarites imo.

Differences everywhere you turn, from inventory, to the closed nature of the overround, to interrelated markets (eg yen rates or civil wars don't often affect a horses price), the very short dated market expiry, lack of underlying asset value (a fallen horse doen't often get up like a company that's gone into penny share land sometime can), no interim yields, differences in tranasaction charges affecting trading style....

I'm stuggling to find many similarities really.

People like to equate it to financials because it makes them feel special, but there's actually more similarities with the wholesale fish market but who ever looks at how that behaves?
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Derek27 wrote:
Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:10 pm
If the Betfair graphs had a time-line on the x-axis, I reckon the last ten minutes before the off could take up as much as half the graph.
Time doesn’t work like that...

Edit: just realised what you meant and I agree.
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Derek27 wrote:
Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:10 pm
If the Betfair graphs had a time-line on the x-axis, I reckon the last ten minutes before the off could take up as much as half the graph.
It's not actually far from being an exponential stretching of time. It's like the advertised off time is a black hole and we all accelerate towards it.
And there's certainly no escape if you arrive at the event horizon with an open position ! :ugeek: :)
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This one certainly 'Travelled Lightly' in the 17:00
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Dallas wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:00 pm
This one certainly 'Travelled Lightly' in the 17:00
beat me to it
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Here you are Dallas:
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This is an example of how early money can be indicative of a horse bouncing back.
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Derek27 wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:54 pm
This is an example of how early money can be indicative of a horse bouncing back.
Gotta be careful when it comes to picking & choosing. I could easily find ya a counterexample.

But the idea is testable.

Does a large IP% gap between Mwap & the initial liveshow price, have an impact on SP
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ruthlessimon wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:59 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:54 pm
This is an example of how early money can be indicative of a horse bouncing back.
Gotta be careful when it comes to picking & choosing. I could easily find ya a counterexample.

But the idea is testable.

Does a large IP% gap between Mwap & the initial liveshow price, have an impact on SP
Mwap: the noise a bassline tune makes. it is not an actual word but a sound???

I've never done any detailed research on it but I've noticed off memory, which I know could be wrong, that they often do revise to the mean to some extent.

My thinking behind it is that if more than a few people are willing to back it at 6 early, there's likely to be a reason for it, and it's quite likely to be well overpriced at some stage. I know factors at the racecourse can sometimes drastically changed a horses chances, but they can't justify all the big drifts.
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An ideal trade at Hamilton
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14.00 KO now thats a steam
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Simonlofc wrote:
Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:23 pm
14.00 KO now thats a steam
was gonna say that looked kind of weak money wise then I looked at the event :roll:
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Korattt wrote:
Sun Jul 22, 2018 9:41 am
Simonlofc wrote:
Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:23 pm
14.00 KO now thats a steam
was gonna say that looked kind of weak money wise then I looked at the event :roll:
Was 2-2 wasn't it?

What caused the huge firm? Actual news or people thinking a fix was on?
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Naffman wrote:
Sun Jul 22, 2018 9:54 am
Korattt wrote:
Sun Jul 22, 2018 9:41 am
Simonlofc wrote:
Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:23 pm
14.00 KO now thats a steam
was gonna say that looked kind of weak money wise then I looked at the event :roll:
Was 2-2 wasn't it?

What caused the huge firm? Actual news or people thinking a fix was on?
Id guess so, they went right out pre KO and then came right back in it looked like an Ostapenko tennis match graph
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Some support that
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