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ruthlessimon wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 2:27 pm
What's the right thing to do when the back bet spikes the short fav 10ticks? What's the right thing to do when a lay bet spikes the 3rd 20 ticks? What's the right thing to do when the fav spikes down 2 ticks?

Peter would know those answers - so there's no excuse for us not knowing

If someone doesn't know those answers, I think it's extremely unfair (& wrong) to blame their psychology.

I think you're barking up the wrong tree if you're assuming Peter has some kind of list showing him what to do if a fav moves 10 ticks, Simon. Manual trading is a lot more intuitive and you don't look at moves in isolation, you take the market as a whole to decide if moves will be sustained. I'd be very surprised if Peter has all this information regarding singular ticks moves you assume he has.
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Betfair just failed to turn the Group 1 in France inplay when they jumped and then suspended rather than turn it inplay after several furlongs.
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God knows how they worked out the SP's in that Group 1 but it was no way near what they should have been. Complete joke of an sp.
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spreadbetting wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 2:49 pm
I think you're barking up the wrong tree if you're assuming Peter has some kind of list showing him what to do if a fav moves 10 ticks, Simon. I'd be very surprised if Peter has all this information regarding singular ticks moves you assume he has.
I'm defo not saying my way is the right way & he defo won't have the data in my format (i.e. 10ticks, 11ticks, 12ticks spike etc etc); but I'd be extremely surprised if he hadn't done any form of quantitative work on spikes/speeds of moves
spreadbetting wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 2:49 pm
you take the market as a whole to decide if moves will be sustained.
Absolutely, & the spikes are a small portion of that overall picture. I haven't got a clue how I could merge all the little nuggets I've come across over the yr's into an overarching automated method (yet ;) )
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spreadbetting wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 2:49 pm
I think you're barking up the wrong tree if you're assuming Peter has some kind of list showing him what to do if a fav moves 10 ticks
I'd take a stab at saying he's taken it even further. Possibly even modelled exactly what happens after a big spike. For example, people like Iambic - traders caught with their pants down needing to exit (don't know what to do/panic) causing a further continuation - which becomes the real low/high. Just a hypothesis, but I like it :) i.e. after a big spike, just wait for Iambic to puke, then reverse :twisted:
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Should have been called Undependable :o
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French flyer done a flyer!
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I'm officially in mourning as that's the last Windsor Monday evening of the summer. :cry:
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Despite the extra busy summer it seems to have come around quick this year
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I'm glad night racing is coming to an end :)
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spreadbetting wrote:
Mon Aug 20, 2018 9:27 pm
I'm glad night racing is coming to an end :)
Going to be more floodlight fixtures than ever this autumn ..Additional 15 planned according to BHA including

“The addition of 15 floodlit fixtures in autumn, to be run alongside existing floodlit cards on Wednesdays and Thursdays, as part of a one year trial to test their popularity with the betting industry’s customers. These fixtures will be programmed in September and October when there is currently a relatively high level of race eliminations and so any impact on field sizes is expected to be negligible.”
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For me the depressing part of the year is when summer ends, with winter to look forward to. At least we've got a few more nice days yet.
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Halliday wrote:
Mon Aug 20, 2018 9:58 pm
spreadbetting wrote:
Mon Aug 20, 2018 9:27 pm
I'm glad night racing is coming to an end :)
Going to be more floodlight fixtures than ever this autumn ..Additional 15 planned according to BHA including

“The addition of 15 floodlit fixtures in autumn, to be run alongside existing floodlit cards on Wednesdays and Thursdays, as part of a one year trial to test their popularity with the betting industry’s customers. These fixtures will be programmed in September and October when there is currently a relatively high level of race eliminations and so any impact on field sizes is expected to be negligible.”
I guess at least they're on days where there's already existing night cards.
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Winters coming.

Its going to be cold, dark, wet and miserable.

And then Brexit is around the corner.
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Plenty to look forward to them :lol:
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