Today's Horse Racing

[gstar1975]

Wetherby 4.10 is a 4 runner race, originally an 8 runner race, therefore "to be placed" market is still 3 places.

What happens if you lay all 4 and only 1 or 2 horses finish and the other 2-3 fall or get pulled up, do you get paid out on the ones that dont finish. Do they have to finish the race to be placed or are they technically placed even though they didnt finish the race?

I cant find the rule.

If you lay the top 3 in the market you only need 1 to be pulled up, fall or finish last to make a minimum profit of +0.64 of if they all place then -0.74 seems a near 1:1 ratio bet. Also heavy ground over fences.

Plus all of them at some point in their career have been pulled up, and 3 of 4 of them have done so in the last 6 races.

This race has Carnage written all over it.

[Derek27]

Wetherby 4.10 is a 4 runner race, originally an 8 runner race, therefore "to be placed" market is still 3 places.

What happens if you lay all 4 and only 1 or 2 horses finish and the other 2-3 fall or get pulled up, do you get paid out on the ones that dont finish. Do they have to finish the race to be placed or are they technically placed even though they didnt finish the race?

I cant find the rule.

If you lay the top 3 in the market you only need 1 to be pulled up, fall or finish last to make a minimum profit of +0.64 of if they all place then -0.74 seems a near 1:1 ratio bet. Also heavy ground over fences.

Plus all of them at some point in their career have been pulled up, and 3 of 4 of them have done so in the last 6 races.

This race has Carnage written all over it.

My understanding is that if there are 2 finishers layers only pay out on the 2, which is why the overround is under 300%, but don't quote me on that because I haven't looked at the rules!

Years ago somebody who backed the entire field in a place market lost substantially more than the money in his account when only two horses finished and Betfair consequently removed liability offset from back bets in place markets.

[spreadbetting]

Wetherby 4.10 is a 4 runner race, originally an 8 runner race, therefore "to be placed" market is still 3 places.

What happens if you lay all 4 and only 1 or 2 horses finish and the other 2-3 fall or get pulled up, do you get paid out on the ones that dont finish. Do they have to finish the race to be placed or are they technically placed even though they didnt finish the race?

I cant find the rule.

If you lay the top 3 in the market you only need 1 to be pulled up, fall or finish last to make a minimum profit of +0.64 of if they all place then -0.74 seems a near 1:1 ratio bet. Also heavy ground over fences.

Plus all of them at some point in their career have been pulled up, and 3 of 4 of them have done so in the last 6 races.

This race has Carnage written all over it.

If all the runners fall the race is declared void and all stakes returned, as long as there is one finisher all bets will be settled as per the market rules i.e. if you lay a horse not to finish in the first 3 and it falls you will get paid out. You'll see many jumps markets with few runners betting to an underround book in the hope of less finishers than places. Also the market will be cancelled if the number of places equals the number of runners, so if another pulls out the market will get dropped.

[Derek27]

Also the market will be cancelled if the number of places equals the number of runners, so if another pulls out the market will get dropped.

Gives a bit of hope to anyone who's screwed up their book!

[Derek27]

Clonmel is all over the place.

Shimmers Rock, 14-40 Clonmel.jpg

[ShaunWhite]

Clonmel is all over the place.Shimmers Rock, 14-40 Clonmel.jpg

Played 4, green on 4 but I think I'll settle for that and I'm going to go and do some other things today, really can't get excited about 2 crappy meetings like these. It's going to get a lot busier soon so it's no great loss.

[Dallas]

Clonmel is all over the place.Shimmers Rock, 14-40 Clonmel.jpg

Looks quite steady for an Irish market

[Dallas]

Played 4, green on 4 but I think I'll settle for that and I'm going to go and do some other things today, really can't get excited about 2 crappy meetings like these. It's going to get a lot busier soon so it's no great loss.

That likely the best move of the day

[ShaunWhite]

I think I'll settle for that and I'm going to go and do some other things today

That likely the best move of the day

Even the lovely Gina hosting ATR today isn't quite enough for me to grind this one out.

[Derek27]

I'm enjoying Clonmel. The last market was the sort where random trading would probably be profitable - put in a couple of trades a few ticks apart and they both get matched in a few seconds.

[gstar1975]

Wetherby 4.10 is a 4 runner race, originally an 8 runner race, therefore "to be placed" market is still 3 places.

What happens if you lay all 4 and only 1 or 2 horses finish and the other 2-3 fall or get pulled up, do you get paid out on the ones that dont finish. Do they have to finish the race to be placed or are they technically placed even though they didnt finish the race?

I cant find the rule.

If you lay the top 3 in the market you only need 1 to be pulled up, fall or finish last to make a minimum profit of +0.64 of if they all place then -0.74 seems a near 1:1 ratio bet. Also heavy ground over fences.

Plus all of them at some point in their career have been pulled up, and 3 of 4 of them have done so in the last 6 races.

This race has Carnage written all over it.

Well Bandon Roc finished last. I laid all runners and it worked out pretty well.

2003184 4 runner race place market trade lay all and hope 1 fav doesnt place.jpg

[Derek27]

Well done Gstar, did you lay all four of them for £250 and trade Bandon Roc in running?

[SeaHorseRacing]

The use of other software is an offense on this forum!

[SeaHorseRacing]

Money coming for DALAWYNA now. Will be favourite?

[gstar1975]

Well done Gstar, did you lay all four of them for £250 and trade Bandon Roc in running?

Yes what a shame it was in Simulation but the strategy worked.