Today's Horse Racing

[SeaHorseRacing]

Right on cue and missed it

[SeaHorseRacing]

2.75 Looked strong, out to 3.5 back to as low as 2.5 with another bounce. Kettles fault there!!

[Derek27]

Just heard the sad news on ATR that Jose Flores has died following his horrific fall at Parx on Monday.

[alun63]

i wonder if anyone can shed any light on this for me i was using the bookmaking tab on the 20:15 6f at chem and had a very strange result i greened up at £5.10 on betangel then noticed that i had in fact lost £25 i checked the bets on betfair and none of the odds matched with the odds shown in the betangel log by some margin, i checked the other races and they all matched with betfair except this race, any ideas anyone?

cheers

[Derek27]

i wonder if anyone can shed any light on this for me i was using the bookmaking tab on the 20:15 6f at chem and had a very strange result i greened up at £5.10 on betangel then noticed that i had in fact lost £25 i checked the bets on betfair and none of the odds matched with the odds shown in the betangel log by some margin, i checked the other races and they all matched with betfair except this race, any ideas anyone?

cheers

I would guess it's a result of Temeraire being withdrawn, which would result in a reduction factor of 25.8% being applied.

What was the average price that you laid it at?

[Halliday]

One of the shortest bsps ever to lose.

From The Racng Post ...

Tree Of Liberty on Thursday equalled the unenviable record for the shortest-priced loser in British jump racing history when beaten at odds of 1-20 at Ludlow.

The Kerry Lee-trained chaser was unable to justify his prohibitive odds when going down to 20-1 chance Cap'N in a three-runner 2m novice contest.

The only other 1-20 jumping loser was the great Jerry M over fences at Newbury in 1909, when he fell in a two-horse race and was remounted to complete the course. He won the Grand National in 1912.

In defeat Tree Of Liberty became the shortest-priced loser of any race in Britain since Triple Dip on the all-weather at Lingfield in 2015, joining a band of nine others beaten 1-20 shots.

The record for the shortest-priced loser in British racing history is held by Royal Forest, a 1-25 shot who was second at Ascot in September 1948.

[alun63]

thanks for the replies i hadnt realised that a horse had been pulled, the betfair average odds were 3.32 and the average odds on betangel work out at 4.16

[Derek27]

thanks for the replies i hadnt realised that a horse had been pulled, the betfair average odds were 3.32 and the average odds on betangel work out at 4.16

There can only be one average price - they should agree.

You need to be careful when bookmaking/dutching markets where the prices have changed considerably since your bets have been matched, as non-runners and reduction factors can easily screw-up a green book.

[alun63]

Thanks for the info Derek that must have been what happened as that was the only race where Betangel and Betfair didnt match, i suppose theres nothing i can do about that going forward as we have no control over it, it is a worry though if i was using bigger stakes it could have been a lot more!

[SeaHorseRacing]

A horse I think has been a non-trier, nice looking plan here today. 7.15 Elite Shadow. 22s. Crazy price.

I would argue his true chances at least 10% don't understand the 22.00 price.

First OR was 70. IMO moves like an 80 rated horse, Although the entire field is lightly raced he has an opening OR of a horse with ability. I am pretty certain he hasn't been trying at all yet.

[Halliday]

A horse I think has been a non-trier, nice looking plan here today. 7.15 Elite Shadow. 22s. Crazy price.

I would argue his true chances at least 10% don't understand the 22.00 price.

First OR was 70. IMO moves like an 80 rated horse, Although the entire field is lightly raced he has an opening OR of a horse with ability. I am pretty certain he hasn't been trying at all yet.

Little bit more info re Elite Shadow ...third foal out of Silver Elite ( 3wins rated low 60's) , home breed and all three have been trained by Gay Kellaway. By Finjaan who was very speedy and dam won over 5/6f.Lightiy raced 4 yo half brother has shown promise in two races over a mile ( last ran in January ) but is by Mawatheeq, so bit more stamina there.

Form of last two races working out ok .. third in Newcastle race Wazim won yesterday on a mark of 69. Previously 2nd to Bungee Jump, who has since won at Lingfield off a mark of 76

As you know I'm a great believer in stable form and Gay Kellaways runners appear to be below form .. one win in 20 odd runners , winner back in January and a 4/9 fav beaten yesterday

Would be more interested in both Elite Shadow and Elite Treaty ( once handicapped ) if stable was in form .. but would take a leap of faith to see them achieving ratings of around 80

[dragontrades]

nice first market at Lingers

[Derek27]

Trading at Lingfield is something I only do as a last resort - when all else is abandoned.

Not a bad day at Newbury.

[dragontrades]

Trading at Lingfield is something I only do as a last resort - when all else is abandoned.

Not a bad day at Newbury.

I don't know why but I find Lingfield suits me

[Trading96]

No one likes Golden Birthday except me