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Halliday
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SeaHorseRacing wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:25 pm
He was a non-trier last time out. It happens nearly on a daily basis this time of year. Get the horse spot on, Deliberately run a shocker bang him at a good price next time.

This a quote from the trainer when it won 3 starts back.

"I've spent the last three or four times trying to get him to settle in"

So we know he wasn't racing him to win prior to that, The in running comments for his recent run is nothing other than someone's quick analysis of a race.

He wasn't keen at all, he looked keen because the jockey took him away from second to the back of the field.

We will know if they are having it off because these sort of "fiddles" money usually comes late.

If you took away his last race, what price would he be today? I truly believe if they ran this race 100 times he would win 40 of them. I also think there are horses in here today being fiddled (expecting a few not to show up)

They have priced this horse as an exposed 9 year old. This horse has had only 13 starts in his entire life, nearly every other runner is technically more exposed. The price is madness. This is all because the false favourite beat it last time.

Havent priced it for fun, serious here.

Think the simple fact might be that he's just too high in the handicap,and ain't going to improve enough to win off his current rating

He is rated 85 ....6 runs when he has been rated 80 + and no wins ... he only won his second race when he dropped to below 80

Sometimes we all can try to find other reasons but often it's just a case of the horses rating being too high or racing in the wrong class etc
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ShaunWhite
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bimbi wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:55 pm
Does anyone know ,please,if I place 200£ stake on in play to wait for the price to come to it ,is the market gonna take it or not.Thank you
Short answer, maybe.
But if you're waiting to trigger a bet at a price and the price falls quickly and doesn't rebound, then almost certainly not. If you watch a few IP markets you'll soon see how it works.
bimbi
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Thanks Shaun,but even if doesnt jump is not impossible,right?
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SeaHorseRacing
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Got everything right but didnt back my other opinion.

Pace looks initially slow.
Pace forecast in order of draw.
1) OURMULLION 2
2) MAESTRO MAC 1
3) Non-Runner
4) CAPTAIN PUGWASH 4
5) THAQAFFA 6
6) SHAMROKH 6
7) MARATHA 3
8) NONIOS 9
Looks a very slowly run race here.
1. MARATHA
Best runs, track leaders to midfield. Should have no problem getting a good position from a poor draw. Been well fancied in last 4 starts. This looks a real plan. Conniving bastards. Gamble here will be biggest sign.
R1- Gave up easily. Non trier
R2- Strong run. Front two drew clear from the rest.
R3- Drew clear. Strong ride.


2. NONIOS
All wins are held up. Nothing obvious here, has CD form. Beat Maratha last time but the result will most likely reverse.
R1- Tried hard to win

3. THAQAFFA
Best performances over 1m midfield/held up. Makes all on 1m. Drop back to 10f a concern. Having 4th start with a hood. Is he a non trier today?
R1- Took some time to get going.
R2- Won nicely, nothing standing out.

4. SHAMROKH
Most wins held up but has made all. Very lightly race over this distance. 5th run with tongue tie and 4th run with cheek pieces.
R1- Moves nicely. Tried.
R2- Front two drew clear.

5. Non-Runner
6. MAESTRO MAC
Front run wins. Looks to be suited by a slowly run race. Interesting win from a break last time, might come forward further. Adam Kirby ridding Thaqaffa can’t make weight for this horse. Excellent record over the All weather and best performance arguably here. Still room to improve but concerns hes a non trier today.
R1- Ran well like a professional.
R2- Won eased in the end.

7. OURMULLION
Wins and best performance are front runs. Looks to be suited by a slowly run race. Interesting turn around today, expect a better performance today. Drop back to 10f interesting. First time cheek pieces over this distance won two in a row. Had a couple of break since the wins and likely to have been some issues, encouraging run last time out. Looks like Josephine Gordon has chosen Maestro Mac, can win this if they go slow.
R1- Not a massive trier likely to come on for run.

8. CAPTAIN PUGWASH
Wins are held up. Could be more to come winning on big step on distance last time. Favourite at first attempt at 10f and ran a shocker, won over 10f last time. Could be more to come. 2 from 2 at Chelmsford. Improving horse who is lightly raced and a 5lb claimer today.
R1- Ran well but not eye catching.
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Derek27
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bimbi wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:55 pm
Does anyone know ,please,if I place 200£ stake on in play to wait for the price to come to it ,is the market gonna take it or not.Thank you
I would strongly advise you not to place £200 when you're experimenting and learning to trade. You could just as easily find out if the price reaches it with a £2 bet.

It all depends on how the horse runs and whether or not anyone wants to take your bet.
bimbi
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Thanks very much Derek ,but Im just wondering if in play can take 200 £ when going thru it?
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Derek27
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bimbi wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:06 pm
Thanks very much Derek ,but Im just wondering if in play can take 200 £ when going thru it?
It all depends on what price your order is and how the horse does.

If you have £200 back bet somewhere in the teens and the horse is comprehensively beaten (or looks well beaten at some stage) you can be guaranteed that it will all be taken if you don't cancel it. It only won't be taken if the horse is close enough at the finish to have some chance.

If you lay the horse at 3 and it goes close you can again be virtually certain it will be taken - it won't be taken if the horse never looks like having a 2/1 at any stage of the race.
bimbi
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Thanks very much Derek
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Derek27
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It's not often that somebody takes just the right amount of a bet to give you a green book, before the market moves away, but it happened in the last at Warwick. :D
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Euler
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I've had quite a good afternoon, did well at Lingers but struggled a bit on the jumps courses.
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Derek27
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I've never understood why people carry on laying at the same price when a non-runner is pulled out of the market, but long may it continue. :D
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bimbi
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Anyone to know ,please,how can I use two different auto rules at the same time on two computers in my house?Thanks.
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Derek27
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If you have a question about automation you're better off starting a new topic and then more people will notice your question.
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Cheers Derek.
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Back after a bit of a break.. done my yoga practice this morning.. hopefully I've opened up my trading chakras and i'll have a good day :)

Good luck chaps, hope todays a gooden for everyone!
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