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Wallo wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:30 am
Hi Dallas,

Newbie so apologies if I'm asking for the obvious.

Pre kick off (Football) I want to back the home fav in multiple football matches in the 12X market. In addition i want to back 0-0 0-1 1-1 on the correct score lines pre kick off. Obviously I can do this manually but if any quick ways using automation that would be good.

If the fav scores first i want to green the profit at the time of the goal on the 12X and also close the 1-1 which will still be a live bet, 0-0 and 0-1 will be dead.

If the fav concedes the first goal but then goes on to lead later in the match i again want the 12X to green, all correct score lines will be dead.

Is this possible in totality or even in part?

Thanks in advance.

Neil
Yes it can be done but the linking of so many markets will take a bit of time to set up and will get a little complex the more you add

You will need to use a combination of signals and stored values on your main match odds market
then you can use conditions on all your other markets which test for the stored values being set on the match odds market

There are a few examples in the shared files section on linking two markets together which will show you the principal of what needs to be done
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milan853
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Hi
Question is
What i can do if i dont know which team acore goal first and i looking for lay first goalscorer
for example arsenal:stoke
i wont set bot for both side
and go to work;) Is possible?
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milan853 wrote:
Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:56 am
Hi
Question is
What i can do if i dont know which team acore goal first and i looking for lay first goalscorer
for example arsenal:stoke
i wont set bot for both side
and go to work;) Is possible?
Easiest way is to use the 'signal goals' rule from the following thread
viewtopic.php?f=50&t=12490

Then add a lay bet rule with a
'signal value condition'
signal named 'goal'
is set with a value of 1

Also, add a 'time since unsuspended condition'
is greater than 65 secs

Just to allow the market to reform before it triggers
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hi Sorry to bother you , I downloaded the document and gave it a try in practice mode before i added a few more conditions and it never triggered , I havent changed any setting as its just the same as the download, i even deleted it and tried again with the same result nothing seems to trigger,
here is the log.
31/07/2020 10:34:17: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
31/07/2020 10:34:17: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
31/07/2020 10:34:18: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
31/07/2020 10:53:56: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
31/07/2020 10:54:23: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
31/07/2020 11:56:31: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
31/07/2020 11:57:25: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
31/07/2020 11:59:52: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
31/07/2020 12:00:35: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
31/07/2020 12:08:12: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
31/07/2020 12:08:15: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended

I bet the home team manually 5-6 minutes after they score, any suggestions on whats going wrong with the automation?
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xylophone wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:46 pm
hi Sorry to bother you , I downloaded the document and gave it a try in practice mode before i added a few more conditions and it never triggered , I havent changed any setting as its just the same as the download, i even deleted it and tried again with the same result nothing seems to trigger,
here is the log.
31/07/2020 10:34:17: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
31/07/2020 10:34:17: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
31/07/2020 10:34:18: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
31/07/2020 10:53:56: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
31/07/2020 10:54:23: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
31/07/2020 11:56:31: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
31/07/2020 11:57:25: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
31/07/2020 11:59:52: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
31/07/2020 12:00:35: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
31/07/2020 12:08:12: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
31/07/2020 12:08:15: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended

I bet the home team manually 5-6 minutes after they score, any suggestions on whats going wrong with the automation?
Have you been selecting the team/s to back/lay in the main Guardian Window?
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Yes i was selecting the teams for the game this morning just for a trail again in full operational mode and i watched it during the whole game incase there were any mishaps , i selected the home team in automated nominated selection 1 and the away team in automated nominated selection 2, i chose wellington in 1 and phoenix in 2. I didnt try and change anything it was directly set up from the fresh download. i went into the automation tab next to the log at the foot of the page and it was giving the name of the rule that was being used in the game.
I have tried it with only one team selected in automation nominated 1 and the same as in 2 i have tried it with both teams etc. So im at a loss as it doesnt seem to be triggering any reaction. I have copied the file and tried it in another rule too and still nothing. any help would be greatly sppreciated
Jasonffc1
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Hi Dallas,

Wondered if you could help me. I am looking to lay the nominated team if they go 1-0 up but only if they score between 10mins and 35mins.If no goal is scored in that time frame I don’t want nothing to trigger. If it goes 2-0 I will take the loss straight away and if goes back to 1-1 I will green up all selections. If it stays 1-0 to the nominated team at HT I will take the loss too.

Thanks
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Jasonffc1 wrote:
Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:05 am
Hi Dallas,

Wondered if you could help me. I am looking to lay the nominated team if they go 1-0 up but only if they score between 10mins and 35mins.If no goal is scored in that time frame I don’t want nothing to trigger. If it goes 2-0 I will take the loss straight away and if goes back to 1-1 I will green up all selections. If it stays 1-0 to the nominated team at HT I will take the loss too.

Thanks
To satisfy the time element you'd need to use two 'Set/modify signal' rules

one of the rules needs to be armed 0-10mins the other 10-35mins

with each setting a different signal name
ie, 'abort' and 'trigger'

both with the following conditions;

Historical Relative Odds Cond
Selections back price now
is less than selections back price 65 secs ago
minus 15 ticks

Time Since unsuspended Cond
Is greater than 60secs

on the second of the two rules you'll also need a

Signal set cond
to test the signal named 'abort'
is NOT set with a value


Then on your lay bet rule you just need a

Signal Set Cond
to test the signal named 'trigger'
is set with a value

For the green up part you'll need 2 green up rules
one armed for HT

the other will need two historical relative odds conditions nested in a group were one or more of them must be true
When setting up the historical Relative odds conditions one would need to test for

Selections back price now
is less than selections back price 65 secs ago
minus 15 ticks

the other

Selections back price now
is greater than selections back price 65 secs ago
plus 15 ticks

Finally outside that group of conditions add a

Time Since unsuspended Cond
Is greater than 60secs


Sounds complicated but if you go through it step by step like that it'll be fairly easy to set up
Jasonffc1
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Thanks Dallas, does look a bit complicated but I will give it a go.

Cheers
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Dallas wrote:
Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:30 am
Jasonffc1 wrote:
Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:05 am
Hi Dallas,

Wondered if you could help me. I am looking to lay the nominated team if they go 1-0 up but only if they score between 10mins and 35mins.If no goal is scored in that time frame I don’t want nothing to trigger. If it goes 2-0 I will take the loss straight away and if goes back to 1-1 I will green up all selections. If it stays 1-0 to the nominated team at HT I will take the loss too.

Thanks
To satisfy the time element you'd need to use two 'Set/modify signal' rules

one of the rules needs to be armed 0-10mins the other 10-35mins

with each setting a different signal name
ie, 'abort' and 'trigger'

both with the following conditions;

Historical Relative Odds Cond
Selections back price now
is less than selections back price 65 secs ago
minus 15 ticks

Time Since unsuspended Cond
Is greater than 60secs

on the second of the two rules you'll also need a

Signal set cond
to test the signal named 'abort'
is NOT set with a value


Then on your lay bet rule you just need a

Signal Set Cond
to test the signal named 'trigger'
is set with a value

For the green up part you'll need 2 green up rules
one armed for HT

the other will need two historical relative odds conditions nested in a group were one or more of them must be true
When setting up the historical Relative odds conditions one would need to test for

Selections back price now
is less than selections back price 65 secs ago
minus 15 ticks

the other

Selections back price now
is greater than selections back price 65 secs ago
plus 15 ticks

Finally outside that group of conditions add a

Time Since unsuspended Cond
Is greater than 60secs


Sounds complicated but if you go through it step by step like that it'll be fairly easy to set up
I have given it a go, could you please check the file attached to see if done correctly.

Thanks
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Jasonffc1
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Dallas wrote:
Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:30 am
Jasonffc1 wrote:
Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:05 am
Hi Dallas,

Wondered if you could help me. I am looking to lay the nominated team if they go 1-0 up but only if they score between 10mins and 35mins.If no goal is scored in that time frame I don’t want nothing to trigger. If it goes 2-0 I will take the loss straight away and if goes back to 1-1 I will green up all selections. If it stays 1-0 to the nominated team at HT I will take the loss too.

Thanks
To satisfy the time element you'd need to use two 'Set/modify signal' rules

one of the rules needs to be armed 0-10mins the other 10-35mins

with each setting a different signal name
ie, 'abort' and 'trigger'

both with the following conditions;

Historical Relative Odds Cond
Selections back price now
is less than selections back price 65 secs ago
minus 15 ticks

Time Since unsuspended Cond
Is greater than 60secs

on the second of the two rules you'll also need a

Signal set cond
to test the signal named 'abort'
is NOT set with a value


Then on your lay bet rule you just need a

Signal Set Cond
to test the signal named 'trigger'
is set with a value

For the green up part you'll need 2 green up rules
one armed for HT

the other will need two historical relative odds conditions nested in a group were one or more of them must be true
When setting up the historical Relative odds conditions one would need to test for

Selections back price now
is less than selections back price 65 secs ago
minus 15 ticks

the other

Selections back price now
is greater than selections back price 65 secs ago
plus 15 ticks

Finally outside that group of conditions add a

Time Since unsuspended Cond
Is greater than 60secs


Sounds complicated but if you go through it step by step like that it'll be fairly easy to set up
Hi Dallas,

I tested it on a couple of games tonight and a goal went in on 3rd minute but my abort signal didnt trigger, I guess it was meant to. Could you please look at message I sent with the file attached and see if I set up correctly. Would be much appreciated

Thanks
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Jasonffc1 wrote:
Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:15 pm
Dallas wrote:
Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:30 am
Jasonffc1 wrote:
Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:05 am
Hi Dallas,

Wondered if you could help me. I am looking to lay the nominated team if they go 1-0 up but only if they score between 10mins and 35mins.If no goal is scored in that time frame I don’t want nothing to trigger. If it goes 2-0 I will take the loss straight away and if goes back to 1-1 I will green up all selections. If it stays 1-0 to the nominated team at HT I will take the loss too.

Thanks
To satisfy the time element you'd need to use two 'Set/modify signal' rules

one of the rules needs to be armed 0-10mins the other 10-35mins

with each setting a different signal name
ie, 'abort' and 'trigger'

both with the following conditions;

Historical Relative Odds Cond
Selections back price now
is less than selections back price 65 secs ago
minus 15 ticks

Time Since unsuspended Cond
Is greater than 60secs

on the second of the two rules you'll also need a

Signal set cond
to test the signal named 'abort'
is NOT set with a value


Then on your lay bet rule you just need a

Signal Set Cond
to test the signal named 'trigger'
is set with a value

For the green up part you'll need 2 green up rules
one armed for HT

the other will need two historical relative odds conditions nested in a group were one or more of them must be true
When setting up the historical Relative odds conditions one would need to test for

Selections back price now
is less than selections back price 65 secs ago
minus 15 ticks

the other

Selections back price now
is greater than selections back price 65 secs ago
plus 15 ticks

Finally outside that group of conditions add a

Time Since unsuspended Cond
Is greater than 60secs


Sounds complicated but if you go through it step by step like that it'll be fairly easy to set up
Hi Dallas,

I tested it on a couple of games tonight and a goal went in on 3rd minute but my abort signal didnt trigger, I guess it was meant to. Could you please look at message I sent with the file attached and see if I set up correctly. Would be much appreciated

Thanks

Its was very close, only 2 small bits missing

1, the green goal needs the profit conditions nesting a in group with only one of them needing to be true as shown below
Group.JPG

2, there was no signal names on either the trigger or abort signal rules, i've done the trigger on below, just copy that then do the same for the abort signal (i've enabled logging so that if anything doesn't work we can at least see if the signal is setting correctly or not so it always helps with debugging when 1st setting up)
Signal.JPG

Apart from those everything else is spot on so it should be good to go - always still test in PM for a few games before using it on a live market to ensure all rules are triggering correctly
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Jasonffc1
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Thanks very much Dallas, will get that updated and test it tonight.

Cheers
Jasonffc1
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Dallas wrote:
Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:07 pm
Jasonffc1 wrote:
Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:15 pm
Dallas wrote:
Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:30 am


To satisfy the time element you'd need to use two 'Set/modify signal' rules

one of the rules needs to be armed 0-10mins the other 10-35mins

with each setting a different signal name
ie, 'abort' and 'trigger'

both with the following conditions;

Historical Relative Odds Cond
Selections back price now
is less than selections back price 65 secs ago
minus 15 ticks

Time Since unsuspended Cond
Is greater than 60secs

on the second of the two rules you'll also need a

Signal set cond
to test the signal named 'abort'
is NOT set with a value


Then on your lay bet rule you just need a

Signal Set Cond
to test the signal named 'trigger'
is set with a value

For the green up part you'll need 2 green up rules
one armed for HT

the other will need two historical relative odds conditions nested in a group were one or more of them must be true
When setting up the historical Relative odds conditions one would need to test for

Selections back price now
is less than selections back price 65 secs ago
minus 15 ticks

the other

Selections back price now
is greater than selections back price 65 secs ago
plus 15 ticks

Finally outside that group of conditions add a

Time Since unsuspended Cond
Is greater than 60secs


Sounds complicated but if you go through it step by step like that it'll be fairly easy to set up
Hi Dallas,

I tested it on a couple of games tonight and a goal went in on 3rd minute but my abort signal didnt trigger, I guess it was meant to. Could you please look at message I sent with the file attached and see if I set up correctly. Would be much appreciated

Thanks

Its was very close, only 2 small bits missing

1, the green goal needs the profit conditions nesting a in group with only one of them needing to be true as shown below

Group.JPG


2, there was no signal names on either the trigger or abort signal rules, i've done the trigger on below, just copy that then do the same for the abort signal (i've enabled logging so that if anything doesn't work we can at least see if the signal is setting correctly or not so it always helps with debugging when 1st setting up)

Signal.JPG


Apart from those everything else is spot on so it should be good to go - always still test in PM for a few games before using it on a live market to ensure all rules are triggering correctly
I just had it applied to the South Korea game and a goal was scored in the time frame but only green goal triggered not the trigger rule?
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What did the log show regarding the signal rules?
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