Bet Angel Automation - Football : Lay the Draw & Green Up after a Goal by Checking 0-0 CS

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jtrader
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Thu Nov 14, 2019 1:42 pm

Dallas wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 1:37 pm
jtrader wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 1:23 pm
Is it wrong if stored value of "Checking 0-0 CS at HT" is checking by the "Lay Price of the Selection"(when it's equal to 0) instead of "Back Price of the Selection"? Cause Back Price for CS 0-0 could varies in different events,but I think there aren't traders who wanna back to impossible score(0-0 at HT) when there are goal or goals scored in the 1st half.
You could use the lay price but if I remember rightly when there isn't any price avalible it can't be recongnised by the condition due to the way it defaults so you'd need additional condition/s so its easier just to use the back price.
Thanks for so fast response and explanation,Dallas!

jtrader
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Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:47 am

And what kind of condition do I need if I wish Lay the Draw at a fixed price.I've seen in parameters "Place at Fixed Price",but if that bet could be keep in play and then matched if price steamed or drifted odds I wish?

theflyfifer
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Sat Dec 21, 2019 5:44 pm

Hi Dallas,

Was trading the First Half Market on the game Mouscron v Charleroi (Belgium Juliper League) and after the goal the Guardian log showed this:

21/12/2019 17:24:25: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
21/12/2019 17:24:49: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
21/12/2019 17:25:14: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 6
21/12/2019 17:26:26: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 11
21/12/2019 17:27:36: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 11
21/12/2019 17:28:46: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 13
21/12/2019 17:29:56: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 27
21/12/2019 17:31:07: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 27
21/12/2019 17:32:17: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 28
21/12/2019 17:33:27: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 44
21/12/2019 17:34:37: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 44

Almost a full ten minutes before the green up bet was able to place. My immediate thinking is this was caused by low liquidity in the CS Market (1260) should I filter out games with low CS Market liquidity? or drop the "odds" criteria to say 20?

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Dallas
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Sun Dec 22, 2019 6:27 pm

theflyfifer wrote:
Sat Dec 21, 2019 5:44 pm
Hi Dallas,

Was trading the First Half Market on the game Mouscron v Charleroi (Belgium Juliper League) and after the goal the Guardian log showed this:

21/12/2019 17:24:25: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
21/12/2019 17:24:49: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
21/12/2019 17:25:14: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 6
21/12/2019 17:26:26: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 11
21/12/2019 17:27:36: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 11
21/12/2019 17:28:46: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 13
21/12/2019 17:29:56: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 27
21/12/2019 17:31:07: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 27
21/12/2019 17:32:17: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 28
21/12/2019 17:33:27: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 44
21/12/2019 17:34:37: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 44

Almost a full ten minutes before the green up bet was able to place. My immediate thinking is this was caused by low liquidity in the CS Market (1260) should I filter out games with low CS Market liquidity? or drop the "odds" criteria to say 20?
Yes, on lower liquidity games you'd need to lower odds criteria as no one will have the bank to place speculative lays at higher prices or as you say just filter them out using a 'Market Filter'
https://www.betangel.com/user-guide/fil ... rkets.html

malgilb
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Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:30 am

Can someone tell me where i am going wrong here?
I assign the "Lay The Draw and Green Up After Goal" rules file to the Match Odds and assign the "Check 0-0 CS and Store Odds rule to the Correct Score selection.
When a goal is scored a Back Bet for the Draw is opened.

bigbreak
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Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:56 pm

Hi Dallas,

I have only been using Betangel for the last two weeks trying out this bot. Last night I applied it to several Uefa matches and the bot performed as expected except in the Aberdeen and Rangers games, the logs of which I have appended below.

The success and maximum profit margin depends on greening up immediately after a goal is scored, which is triggered by the 0-0 stored value going above 40.

In both matches it wasn’t the case and there was some delay in closing both deals, and If I remember correctly the draw odds were around 9 in the Aberdeen match when the goal was scored at 8 mins, and the deal was closed at 6 some 37 mins later!

In the Rangers match the closure at odds of 13 happened 15 mins after the second goal!

In both cases the 0-0 odds were below 40 for some time after the first goal was scored.

I’m wondering if the o/u .5 goals market would be a better and more reliable link and indicator for the first goal scored as that market closes down at that point?

Your comments would be much appreciated.

Regards,

Alan.


RANGERS MATCH:-

First goal scored at 22mins followed by 2nd at 25mins

24/09/2020 20:01:06: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
24/09/2020 20:01:06: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
24/09/2020 20:01:17: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 15.5
24/09/2020 20:01:17: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
24/09/2020 20:02:24: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 14.5
24/09/2020 20:03:30: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 10
24/09/2020 20:04:37: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 14
24/09/2020 20:05:43: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 14
24/09/2020 20:06:51: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 14
24/09/2020 20:07:58: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 14
24/09/2020 20:09:04: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 12.5
24/09/2020 20:10:11: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 12.5
24/09/2020 20:11:17: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 12.5
24/09/2020 20:12:24: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 12
24/09/2020 20:13:30: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 11.5
24/09/2020 20:14:37: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 11
24/09/2020 20:15:43: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 10.5
24/09/2020 20:16:50: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 10.5
24/09/2020 20:17:56: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 10
24/09/2020 20:19:03: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 10
24/09/2020 20:20:09: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 10
24/09/2020 20:21:16: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 10
24/09/2020 20:21:49: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
24/09/2020 20:22:55: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1.11
24/09/2020 20:22:55: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
24/09/2020 20:24:02: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 27
24/09/2020 20:25:08: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 25
24/09/2020 20:26:15: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1.04
24/09/2020 20:27:21: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 8
24/09/2020 20:28:28: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1.12
24/09/2020 20:29:34: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 9.2
24/09/2020 20:30:41: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 11
24/09/2020 20:31:47: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 12
24/09/2020 20:32:54: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 10.5
24/09/2020 20:34:00: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 9.6
24/09/2020 20:35:07: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 30
24/09/2020 20:36:13: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 34
24/09/2020 20:37:20: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 34
24/09/2020 20:38:26: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 34
24/09/2020 20:39:34: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 34
24/09/2020 20:40:40: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 20:41:47: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 20:42:53: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 20:44:00: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 20:45:06: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 20:46:13: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 20:47:19: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 20:48:26: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 20:49:33: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 20:55:29: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 20:56:31: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 20:57:32: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 20:58:33: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 20:59:33: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:00:33: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:01:34: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:02:34: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:03:35: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:04:35: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:05:36: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:06:37: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:07:38: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:08:38: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:09:39: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:10:39: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:11:39: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:12:40: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:13:40: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:14:41: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:15:41: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:16:41: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:17:42: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:18:42: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:19:43: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:20:43: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:21:43: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:22:44: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:23:44: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:24:45: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:25:45: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:26:46: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:27:46: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:43:43: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:44:43: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:45:43: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:46:44: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:47:44: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:48:45: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:49:45: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:50:45: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended




24/09/2020 19:59:05: [G_Auto] : £ 10.00 Lay bet placed on The Draw at 4.4. Fully matched at 4.4. Ref: 10005
24/09/2020 20:01:07: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
24/09/2020 20:01:07: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
24/09/2020 20:01:18: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
24/09/2020 20:21:50: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
24/09/2020 20:22:56: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
24/09/2020 20:25:32: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
24/09/2020 20:25:43: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
24/09/2020 20:40:46: [G_Auto] : Placed closure bet with greening on The Draw by Backing 3.38 at 13
24/09/2020 21:11:40: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
24/09/2020 21:11:50: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
24/09/2020 21:27:47: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
24/09/2020 21:43:22: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
24/09/2020 21:50:46: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended


ABERDEEN LOG

First goal scored at 8mins


24/09/2020 20:00:24: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
24/09/2020 20:00:24: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
24/09/2020 20:00:35: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 11
24/09/2020 20:00:35: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
24/09/2020 20:01:42: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 10.5
24/09/2020 20:02:48: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 9.6
24/09/2020 20:03:55: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 9.4
24/09/2020 20:05:01: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 8.8
24/09/2020 20:06:09: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 8.4
24/09/2020 20:07:15: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
24/09/2020 20:07:26: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 18.5
24/09/2020 20:07:26: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
24/09/2020 20:08:33: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 6
24/09/2020 20:09:39: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 6.2
24/09/2020 20:10:46: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 6.2
24/09/2020 20:11:52: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 8
24/09/2020 20:12:59: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 9
24/09/2020 20:14:05: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 7
24/09/2020 20:15:12: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 8.2
24/09/2020 20:16:18: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 10.5
24/09/2020 20:17:25: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 13
24/09/2020 20:18:32: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 12
24/09/2020 20:19:38: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 11
24/09/2020 20:20:44: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 11.5
24/09/2020 20:21:51: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 12.5
24/09/2020 20:22:57: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 10.5
24/09/2020 20:24:04: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 10.5
24/09/2020 20:25:10: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 9.2
24/09/2020 20:26:17: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 5
24/09/2020 20:27:23: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 7
24/09/2020 20:28:30: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 9
24/09/2020 20:29:36: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 6.2
24/09/2020 20:30:43: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 6.8
24/09/2020 20:31:49: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 9.6
24/09/2020 20:32:56: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 11.5
24/09/2020 20:34:02: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 6.8
24/09/2020 20:35:09: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 16
24/09/2020 20:36:15: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 5.7
24/09/2020 20:37:22: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 4.2
24/09/2020 20:38:28: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 7.8
24/09/2020 20:39:36: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 5.4
24/09/2020 20:40:42: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 5.6
24/09/2020 20:41:49: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 6
24/09/2020 20:42:55: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 5.4
24/09/2020 20:44:02: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 6.2
24/09/2020 20:45:08: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 2.56
24/09/2020 20:46:15: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 10
24/09/2020 20:47:21: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 19
24/09/2020 20:48:28: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 16.5
24/09/2020 20:49:35: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 22
24/09/2020 20:55:38: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 20:56:44: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 20:57:44: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 20:58:45: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 20:59:45: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:00:46: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:01:46: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:02:46: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:03:47: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:04:47: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:05:49: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:06:49: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 24
24/09/2020 21:07:50: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 24
24/09/2020 21:08:50: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 24
24/09/2020 21:09:51: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 24
24/09/2020 21:10:51: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 24
24/09/2020 21:11:52: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 24
24/09/2020 21:12:52: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 24
24/09/2020 21:13:52: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 24
24/09/2020 21:14:53: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 24
24/09/2020 21:15:53: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 24
24/09/2020 21:16:53: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 24
24/09/2020 21:17:54: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 24
24/09/2020 21:18:54: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 24
24/09/2020 21:19:55: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 26
24/09/2020 21:20:55: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 28
24/09/2020 21:21:56: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 28
24/09/2020 21:22:56: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 28
24/09/2020 21:23:56: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 28
24/09/2020 21:24:57: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 28
24/09/2020 21:25:58: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:26:58: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:43:23: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:44:27: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:45:27: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:46:28: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:47:28: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:48:28: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:49:29: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:50:17: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended


24/09/2020 19:59:07: [G_Auto] : £ 10.00 Lay bet placed on The Draw at 4.2. Fully matched at 4.2. Ref: 10006
24/09/2020 20:00:25: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
24/09/2020 20:00:25: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
24/09/2020 20:00:36: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
24/09/2020 20:55:49: [G_Auto] : Placed closure bet with greening on The Draw by Backing 7.00 at 6
24/09/2020 21:50:18: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended

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Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:14 pm

bigbreak wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:56 pm
Hi Dallas,

I have only been using Betangel for the last two weeks trying out this bot. Last night I applied it to several Uefa matches and the bot performed as expected except in the Aberdeen and Rangers games, the logs of which I have appended below.

The success and maximum profit margin depends on greening up immediately after a goal is scored, which is triggered by the 0-0 stored value going above 40.

In both matches it wasn’t the case and there was some delay in closing both deals, and If I remember correctly the draw odds were around 9 in the Aberdeen match when the goal was scored at 8 mins, and the deal was closed at 6 some 37 mins later!

In the Rangers match the closure at odds of 13 happened 15 mins after the second goal!

In both cases the 0-0 odds were below 40 for some time after the first goal was scored.

I’m wondering if the o/u .5 goals market would be a better and more reliable link and indicator for the first goal scored as that market closes down at that point?

Your comments would be much appreciated.

Regards,

Alan.


RANGERS MATCH:-

First goal scored at 22mins followed by 2nd at 25mins

24/09/2020 20:01:06: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
24/09/2020 20:01:06: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
24/09/2020 20:01:17: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 15.5
24/09/2020 20:01:17: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
24/09/2020 20:02:24: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 14.5
24/09/2020 20:03:30: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 10
24/09/2020 20:04:37: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 14
24/09/2020 20:05:43: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 14
24/09/2020 20:06:51: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 14
24/09/2020 20:07:58: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 14
24/09/2020 20:09:04: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 12.5
24/09/2020 20:10:11: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 12.5
24/09/2020 20:11:17: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 12.5
24/09/2020 20:12:24: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 12
24/09/2020 20:13:30: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 11.5
24/09/2020 20:14:37: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 11
24/09/2020 20:15:43: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 10.5
24/09/2020 20:16:50: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 10.5
24/09/2020 20:17:56: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 10
24/09/2020 20:19:03: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 10
24/09/2020 20:20:09: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 10
24/09/2020 20:21:16: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 10
24/09/2020 20:21:49: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
24/09/2020 20:22:55: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1.11
24/09/2020 20:22:55: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
24/09/2020 20:24:02: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 27
24/09/2020 20:25:08: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 25
24/09/2020 20:26:15: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1.04
24/09/2020 20:27:21: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 8
24/09/2020 20:28:28: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1.12
24/09/2020 20:29:34: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 9.2
24/09/2020 20:30:41: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 11
24/09/2020 20:31:47: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 12
24/09/2020 20:32:54: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 10.5
24/09/2020 20:34:00: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 9.6
24/09/2020 20:35:07: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 30
24/09/2020 20:36:13: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 34
24/09/2020 20:37:20: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 34
24/09/2020 20:38:26: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 34
24/09/2020 20:39:34: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 34
24/09/2020 20:40:40: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 20:41:47: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 20:42:53: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 20:44:00: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 20:45:06: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 20:46:13: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 20:47:19: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 20:48:26: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 20:49:33: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 20:55:29: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 20:56:31: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 20:57:32: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 20:58:33: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 20:59:33: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:00:33: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:01:34: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:02:34: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:03:35: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:04:35: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:05:36: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:06:37: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:07:38: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:08:38: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:09:39: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:10:39: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:11:39: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:12:40: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:13:40: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:14:41: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:15:41: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:16:41: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:17:42: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:18:42: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:19:43: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:20:43: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:21:43: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:22:44: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:23:44: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:24:45: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:25:45: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:26:46: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:27:46: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:43:43: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:44:43: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:45:43: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:46:44: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:47:44: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:48:45: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:49:45: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:50:45: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended




24/09/2020 19:59:05: [G_Auto] : £ 10.00 Lay bet placed on The Draw at 4.4. Fully matched at 4.4. Ref: 10005
24/09/2020 20:01:07: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
24/09/2020 20:01:07: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
24/09/2020 20:01:18: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
24/09/2020 20:21:50: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
24/09/2020 20:22:56: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
24/09/2020 20:25:32: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
24/09/2020 20:25:43: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
24/09/2020 20:40:46: [G_Auto] : Placed closure bet with greening on The Draw by Backing 3.38 at 13
24/09/2020 21:11:40: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
24/09/2020 21:11:50: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
24/09/2020 21:27:47: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
24/09/2020 21:43:22: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
24/09/2020 21:50:46: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended


ABERDEEN LOG

First goal scored at 8mins


24/09/2020 20:00:24: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
24/09/2020 20:00:24: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
24/09/2020 20:00:35: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 11
24/09/2020 20:00:35: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
24/09/2020 20:01:42: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 10.5
24/09/2020 20:02:48: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 9.6
24/09/2020 20:03:55: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 9.4
24/09/2020 20:05:01: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 8.8
24/09/2020 20:06:09: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 8.4
24/09/2020 20:07:15: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
24/09/2020 20:07:26: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 18.5
24/09/2020 20:07:26: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
24/09/2020 20:08:33: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 6
24/09/2020 20:09:39: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 6.2
24/09/2020 20:10:46: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 6.2
24/09/2020 20:11:52: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 8
24/09/2020 20:12:59: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 9
24/09/2020 20:14:05: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 7
24/09/2020 20:15:12: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 8.2
24/09/2020 20:16:18: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 10.5
24/09/2020 20:17:25: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 13
24/09/2020 20:18:32: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 12
24/09/2020 20:19:38: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 11
24/09/2020 20:20:44: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 11.5
24/09/2020 20:21:51: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 12.5
24/09/2020 20:22:57: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 10.5
24/09/2020 20:24:04: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 10.5
24/09/2020 20:25:10: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 9.2
24/09/2020 20:26:17: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 5
24/09/2020 20:27:23: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 7
24/09/2020 20:28:30: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 9
24/09/2020 20:29:36: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 6.2
24/09/2020 20:30:43: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 6.8
24/09/2020 20:31:49: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 9.6
24/09/2020 20:32:56: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 11.5
24/09/2020 20:34:02: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 6.8
24/09/2020 20:35:09: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 16
24/09/2020 20:36:15: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 5.7
24/09/2020 20:37:22: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 4.2
24/09/2020 20:38:28: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 7.8
24/09/2020 20:39:36: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 5.4
24/09/2020 20:40:42: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 5.6
24/09/2020 20:41:49: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 6
24/09/2020 20:42:55: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 5.4
24/09/2020 20:44:02: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 6.2
24/09/2020 20:45:08: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 2.56
24/09/2020 20:46:15: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 10
24/09/2020 20:47:21: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 19
24/09/2020 20:48:28: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 16.5
24/09/2020 20:49:35: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 22
24/09/2020 20:55:38: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 20:56:44: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 20:57:44: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 20:58:45: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 20:59:45: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:00:46: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:01:46: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:02:46: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:03:47: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:04:47: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:05:49: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:06:49: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 24
24/09/2020 21:07:50: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 24
24/09/2020 21:08:50: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 24
24/09/2020 21:09:51: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 24
24/09/2020 21:10:51: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 24
24/09/2020 21:11:52: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 24
24/09/2020 21:12:52: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 24
24/09/2020 21:13:52: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 24
24/09/2020 21:14:53: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 24
24/09/2020 21:15:53: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 24
24/09/2020 21:16:53: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 24
24/09/2020 21:17:54: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 24
24/09/2020 21:18:54: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 24
24/09/2020 21:19:55: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 26
24/09/2020 21:20:55: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 28
24/09/2020 21:21:56: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 28
24/09/2020 21:22:56: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 28
24/09/2020 21:23:56: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 28
24/09/2020 21:24:57: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 28
24/09/2020 21:25:58: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:26:58: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:43:23: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:44:27: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:45:27: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:46:28: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:47:28: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:48:28: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:49:29: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: odds = 1000
24/09/2020 21:50:17: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended


24/09/2020 19:59:07: [G_Auto] : £ 10.00 Lay bet placed on The Draw at 4.2. Fully matched at 4.2. Ref: 10006
24/09/2020 20:00:25: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
24/09/2020 20:00:25: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
24/09/2020 20:00:36: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
24/09/2020 20:55:49: [G_Auto] : Placed closure bet with greening on The Draw by Backing 7.00 at 6
24/09/2020 21:50:18: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
I selected 40.0 as a sort of happy medium but this can be adjusted depending on the type of matches you are targetting
In premier league matches they will be 1000.0 every time as soon as the market re-opens, but for lower volume games you are better off moving the draw odds down a bit,

The problem with using the O/U is because it closes it can't send any information so you have to do it in a reverse way, ie, sent a Stored Value
which is incremented each trigger.
Then run a condition to test that value hasn't been updated within the last few seconds.

But that can cause problems if the market is suspended/closed then reopened following a VAR

So there's no concreate way of doing it (until a live score feed is available) just a case of building in as many safety features as possible depending on the type of matches being traded

bigbreak
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Fri Sep 25, 2020 2:16 pm

Thanks for that Dallas.

In any case both matches returned a profit. probably less on the Aberdeen game and a wee bit more on the Rangers game.

The match odds volumes were approx £100,000 and £130,00 on the Rangers and Aberdeen matches respectively, which I thought would have been an adequate measure of the type of match to be selected .

Should we consider the matched volumes figures as a condition of game selection, either match odds or correct score or both?

Alan.

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pete444
Posts: 23
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Sun Oct 04, 2020 11:15 pm

Hi Dallas, used the bot on the Urawa-Nagoya a couple of nights ago. All went well until it triggered TWO back bets after the goal. The 2nd back bet went in 1 minute after the first resulting in an overall loss.
I am guessing that this was due to low liquidity or something to do with the market doing strange things when being suspended?
How would I stop this occurring again?
Thinking about adding a condition to the green goal rule along the lines of:
Condition type = Number of matched bets condition
The number of matched bets on - The selection
Is - equal to 1
Selection - Current (in row 3 betfair order)

Thank you for your time Dallas.


4/10/2020 20:59:21: [G_Auto] : $ 5.00 Lay bet placed on The Draw at 3.8. Fully matched at 3.8. Ref: 213027082345
4/10/2020 21:03:07: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
4/10/2020 21:03:07: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
4/10/2020 21:03:39: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
4/10/2020 22:19:27: [G_Auto] : Placed closure bet with greening on The Draw by Backing 4.22 at 4.5
4/10/2020 22:20:52: [G_Auto] : Placed closure bet with greening on The Draw by Backing 4.13 at 4.6
4/10/2020 22:58:21: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended

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Dallas
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Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:14 am

pete444 wrote:
Sun Oct 04, 2020 11:15 pm
Hi Dallas, used the bot on the Urawa-Nagoya a couple of nights ago. All went well until it triggered TWO back bets after the goal. The 2nd back bet went in 1 minute after the first resulting in an overall loss.
I am guessing that this was due to low liquidity or something to do with the market doing strange things when being suspended?
How would I stop this occurring again?
Thinking about adding a condition to the green goal rule along the lines of:
Condition type = Number of matched bets condition
The number of matched bets on - The selection
Is - equal to 1
Selection - Current (in row 3 betfair order)

Thank you for your time Dallas.


4/10/2020 20:59:21: [G_Auto] : $ 5.00 Lay bet placed on The Draw at 3.8. Fully matched at 3.8. Ref: 213027082345
4/10/2020 21:03:07: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
4/10/2020 21:03:07: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
4/10/2020 21:03:39: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
4/10/2020 22:19:27: [G_Auto] : Placed closure bet with greening on The Draw by Backing 4.22 at 4.5
4/10/2020 22:20:52: [G_Auto] : Placed closure bet with greening on The Draw by Backing 4.13 at 4.6
4/10/2020 22:58:21: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
Do you have the 'Matched bets' details from this market to check the timing and ID of the first greening bet to be matched?

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