DOBing - Back & Lay at 50% Guardian Automation Bot

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eminbe
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Dallas wrote:You can set a stake value for each nominated selection within a rule if thats what you mean?

This is on the parameters tab of 'Back nom 1' and 'Back nom 2' rule types
I cant find the parameters tab, maybe I am using an old version 1.43.1

Please help

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That is a older version, latest can now be downloaded from here
http://www.betangel.com/download/?product=BetAngelPro

But the parameters tab and all options in it are still the same, once you have clicked on 'edit rules file' you should see it.
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Dallas wrote:That is a older version, latest can now be downloaded from here
http://www.betangel.com/download/?product=BetAngelPro

But the parameters tab and all options in it are still the same, once you have clicked on 'edit rules file' you should see it.
What I meant I would like to use different stake values in different races on the same rule, I was wondering if I could put a different stake value for each race the same as I could pick 1 or 2 horses for each race.

The way you mentioned I will have to edit the stake in the rule each time a race finish.
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eminbe
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Dallas wrote:That is a older version, latest can now be downloaded from here
http://www.betangel.com/download/?product=BetAngelPro

But the parameters tab and all options in it are still the same, once you have clicked on 'edit rules file' you should see it.
What I meant I would like to use different stake values in different races on the same rule, I was wondering if I could put a different stake value for each race the same as I could pick 1 or 2 horses for each race.

The way you mentioned I will have to edit the stake in the rule each time a race finish.
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Thats what i was chacking in my first reply.

You cant set a stake value on a race all stakes values are part of the actual rule types within a file.
You can click on the disk+ icon within the rules editor and save another copy of the whole rule using adifferent stake - so you could have one named DOBing £10, DOBing £25 and so on.
Then just apply the one with the sized stake required to the race/market
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eminbe
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Dallas wrote:The BSP is only calculated at the actual off, but yes the rule be adapted to take this rather then the current odds 5 secs before the start.

Just make the following edits to the 'Back Nom 1' & 'Back Nom 2' rules types

Parameters tab
'Place at' Custom ticks above the best market price (and use about 10-20 ticks)

Then click the green plus icon in the top left corner of the rules editor to add an additional rule type and use

General tab


'Take SP on all unmatched Bets'
armed at 00:00:03 Before event start time
till 00:00:01 Before event start time

Trigger 2 times / wait 1 second before re-arming

That should do it for you
Hi Dallas,

Why can't the rule be triggered at 00:00:00 after event goes in-play?
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eminbe wrote:Why can't the rule be triggered at 00:00:00 after event goes in-play?
You can use any time you want to.
PEDRO19801
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Is it possible to choose more than two selections in a race as there are often three selections in a race that I would prefer to trade.

Also, if i were to change the ay percentages, for example close the trade at 33% or 25% of the back price, how would I go about that. Thanks in advance for any guidance,
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PEDRO19801 wrote:Is it possible to choose more than two selections in a race as there are often three selections in a race that I would prefer to trade.
To nominate more than 2 selections per market you would need to open up additional instances of Bet Angel - full details in this thread viewtopic.php?f=47&t=12446
PEDRO19801 wrote:Also, if i were to change the ay percentages, for example close the trade at 33% or 25% of the back price, how would I go about that. Thanks in advance for any guidance,
This is done by just changing the green up profit amounts being used
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many thanks!
barca9968
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Hi Dallas

I've been using your bot. It's worked a treat generally but I've hit a few issues.

I've adapted it to take 20% not 50%. I've also adapted it to take the SP. These work fine.

My problem is that:
It sends bets in too late. I'm getting some trades returning up to 37%, but mostly 25-ish. This works the other way, in that the trade doesnt match and I've lost two trades which should have won where there was plenty liquidity to lay.

Yesterday, I had 100 at 2.3 BSP. 2x lays went in at 1.91 and 1.99. Then it tried to place a back bet @2.5 which didn't get matched. I ended up greening £1.92 on that horse and it went on to win.

Also, what do you make of this:
13/05/2017 18:14:00: Market changed to Thirsk 13th May - 18:15 5f Hcap
13/05/2017 18:14:54: [G_Auto] : £ 100.00 Back bet placed on Storm Trooper at 18. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 92767569152
13/05/2017 18:14:56: [G_Auto] : Modify bet persistence 92767569152 from 'Cancel' to 'Take SP'

13/05/2017 18:15:59: Market has been suspended
13/05/2017 18:16:01: Market is in-play
13/05/2017 18:16:01: Market has been unsuspended
13/05/2017 18:16:31: [G_Auto] : Placed closure bet with greening on Storm Trooper by Laying 149.64 at 6.6
13/05/2017 18:16:34: [G_Auto] : An error occurred while Placing closure bet with greening on Storm Trooper by Laying 91.10 at 8.6 [8.6_91.1]: The order cannot be processed as your betfair account does not have enough funds (or has exceeded its exposure limit).
13/05/2017 18:16:34: [G_Auto] : Cancelling bets 92767840306
13/05/2017 18:16:59: Market has been suspended
Should have been a green trade, ended up losing £70. SP was 9.88. I only got matched a lay of £30.93 @6.60

Is there any way for it to put in a lay straight after my back bet is matched. Just a simple 100 @ 5.0.. 120 @4.0 etc ?
I just need the 20% and that's it, it's not working for bet angel to wait around for the market to drop and then placing a bet.

Thank You
barca9968
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Just seen your other thread: DOBing @ 50% & Back 2 Lay @ 20% Guardian Automation Bot ( http://www.betangel.com/forum/viewtopic ... 52&t=13629 )

I will be trying that. Hopefully that works the way I want :)

Does "Best Market Price" mean SP? I would want SP. Sorry if this clutters the thread, you can move it over, which ever is best.
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If your using Bet Angel V1.47 or above the option to offset by percentages was added so you can now place the offset at required odds as soon as the opening bet is matched (rather than wait for it to be triggered off the profit as the price drops like this one does)

There was a new DOBing rule added to the shared files library which uses this new offset percentage option
http://www.betangel.com/forum/viewtopic ... 52&t=13629
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barca9968 wrote:
Sat May 13, 2017 7:08 pm
Just seen your other thread: DOBing @ 50% & Back 2 Lay @ 20% Guardian Automation Bot ( http://www.betangel.com/forum/viewtopic ... 52&t=13629 )

I will be trying that. Hopefully that works the way I want :)

Does "Best Market Price" mean SP? I would want SP. Sorry if this clutters the thread, you can move it over, which ever is best.
lol no probs was just replying with the same link :)

No 'Best Market Price' is the best odds available at the time it triggers, your best off taking this at/close to post time so the offset can be placed and kept before race goes in play.
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Kaz2
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Hi,

In the last two days I have been running this bot and have found the same problem as detailed by a couple of other users.

Yesterday, the close trade and green up of both selections fired too many times and turned a win into a loss. So, I changed the 'close trade and green up' to a 'green all selections' on each nomination, but the same thing happened again today.

Both trades closed but fired too many times once again and a winning trade turned into a losing one. It could have been a big (for me) losing trade today but ended up as only a couple of quid.

Here is a screen shot of the Log, I hope thats what you need?

Thanks
Kaz
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